DanceDanceRevolution A (AC)

As of now, 11 freeze arrows, so I guess the chart might have 60 freeze arrows, then the number of steps will surpass Elemental Creation.

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I don't believe so. He has to play ENDYMION in an ES so I'm pretty sure they're still exclusive even after AFA .

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https://twitter.com/fungah_/status/888899181699448833

Welp, Chris bypassed all the unlocking process.

He's going straight for Endy

Oh wow, so that stream of stops has six rhythm changes in it. (By comparison, Valkyrie dimension's stop stream had two, and it wasn't even Attack PFC.)

edit: Counting by duration in 8th notes, Vdim's stop stream goes (3, 3, 3, 3, 2, 2) * 4.
Ace For Aces' stop stream goes (3, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 3, 2, 2, 5). The second half of that has double the number of changes compared to the first half.

Is this perhaps a round 2 like how Replicant D-ignition had 2 rounds? Do we have to AA+ 4-life Endymion and then PFC Ace For Aces???

For this mix, sure. It's conceivable that Konami would make their first 20 around the 20th anniversary of DDR, which would be the mix after this one.
( So do you mean women still have this hope? )

So far, it looks to be easier and have fewer crossovers than OT"P". Sure its base BPMs are a bit faster than OT"P" (220/440 vs 200/210/420), and it has more crossovers than speed companion Egoism 440, but comparing the gap between 17s and 18s, and between 18s and 19s, this doesn't feel like it crosses a similarly sized gap after the 19s we know so far.

That's a bit of evidence in favor of this being a full-on Round 2 (which would mean there's A4A coming after it).

Question: Does Endymion still bring up the "This will cost you all of your heat power!" warning message on selection? Both of Fungah's videos start after this bit.

Uh oh, if this behaves like Round 2 of Replicant D-ignition, then Chris might still not be able to see if there's an EES beyond Endymion. I strongly remember that in RDi, the 2nd round EES was only unlocked (after playing the 2nd round ES) if the player AA'ing the 2nd round ES also had all 5 orbs and had unlocked round 2 themselves. We already know the first condition holds (AA Endymion? You're not gonna see A4A unless you also spent 7 heat power), so the second condition probably holds as well.

All the videos of Endymion that I've seen display the "This will use up your HEAT POWER" before proceeding to the difficulty selection, so it's a safe bet (to me) that the Challenge chart is no different.

Re-sorted the SP 15 difficulty tier list on DDRCommunity. It should be more accurate now.

http://ddrcommunity.com/ddr-difficulty-tier-list-single-play-level-15/
(Note: based on timing/scoring difficulty)

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Horatio challenge is listed twice. Hate to be that guy but...

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15.2 must be Horatio Expert. Both links have the challenge chart, though.

Good catch, guys. Thanks.

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The X US CS challenge and the AC challenge.

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The list is for DDR A only, and Horatio CS NA is a 16.

And we know that the X NA CS chart is definitely not a 16 in actuality and IMO, is the worst chart Konami ever made.

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inb4 next Encore Extra Stage special event is that chart. You wouldn't even need Attack PFC for it to be stupidly difficult.

I don't know, Pluto The First is pretty damn bad.

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...that's the chart that everyone says is terrible?

It looks fine though?

I mean I know DDR is trash in telling you how to play but... it seems like a pretty simple shock arrow chart.

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If you care to explain how dodging shock arrows that are literally in the middle of 16th runs (1/11th of a second between the shock and the adjacent arrows) is even remotely possible without basically suspending your entire body slightly above the dance pad via the bar, feel free to tell me; I don't exactly see how you can return both feet to the center panel every single quarter note in a 16th run very plausibly (or comfortably).

Remember that shocks trigger if you are holding down the step, not just if you pressed it.

The shock arrows are literally harder to avoid here than in Pluto The First , and I really hate to admit that there is a chart out there worse at using shocks than PTF, the current designated worst AC chart in the series.

Also, try this thing on a soft pad, and you'll understand the pain; it's a CS chart, not an AC chart, and most people don't have arcade pads available to play CS games with.

EDIT: Okay, just compare that chart to this one:

So why did progress on Endymion Challenge come to a screeching halt suddenly a few days sgo?

Well if I have to guess it's because it might be pretty damn difficult to LIFE4 a 19...

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Well, for one thing, only Fungah has access to the Challenge chart for the time being (since he's the only person to clear ACE FOR ACES on ENCORE EXTRA)
2nd thing, it's hard as heck to get through on EXTRA STAGE restraints (i.e. 4 lives). That stream right at the end of the first 440 section is crazy difficult and the parts afterwards don't really let up either.

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1: Ishtar Challenge on singles does the same tactic pretty much and that was just added.
2: You don't return both feet to the center. Just one. Doing so makes it a simple 16th run with the shocks acting as a center input. It's how a majority of shock arrow charts work.

Yes? In this case, you may need to adjust how you do the drills but it shouldn't be THAT awkward to treat it as one simple 16th stream.

Irrelevant. Pluto The First's Challenge debuted on a console version. 888 was also debuted on a console, and I don't think anyway was playing an 18 on a flimsy home pad.

I'm simply looking at the chart as-is, not based on how one could play it.

And as I said, the CS one is still better in terms of being a stream rather than this awkward mess. It does look like the shocks here are meant to be avoided completely without a care of how specifically to do so, making it a complete mess in terms of flow. Not to mention the breaking up of the long streams into this is just weird and non-fitting.

The CS version makes much more sense to me.

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