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Post #241 · Posted at 2020-08-19 01:32:17pm 3.6 years ago

Offline Wan
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Quote: razorblade
Only if Marvelous judgment is enabled.
That's precisely why I asked. In NekoNekomata's video you can see Fast/Slow showing up on Greats... and Marvelous are enabled.

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https://i.imgur.com/VsZbsex.png

Post #242 · Posted at 2020-08-23 05:21:45pm 3.5 years ago

Offline PlasmaVenom
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Quote: Wan
Quote: razorblade
Only if Marvelous judgment is enabled.
That's precisely why I asked. In NekoNekomata's video you can see Fast/Slow showing up on Greats... and Marvelous are enabled.

I was inspired by the A/A20 fast/slow mapping:

https://i.imgur.com/Ju7Ht8L.png

The good judgment also has fast/slow:

https://i.imgur.com/yP5QGL9.png

However, in Extreme the good judgment is considered "wrong" (cuts the Combo), so I didn't assign it fast/slow.

On the other hand, I think if someone disables MarvelousTiming, they will still see fast/slow in perfect/great. The above occurs because I programmed this thinking only of playing with Marvelous activated (and EX SCORE).

Post #243 · Posted at 2020-09-12 02:56:04am 3.5 years ago

Offline NekoNekoMata
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@gzy

Frames
When the song ends/ goes to song cleared the frames go from 60 to 30fps and return back to 60
at screen evaluation.

Music Wheel
Selecting a song the confirm key is disabled until the wheel stops.

Select Options
Selecting options only plays the DDR confrim sound once and is only being hold down to summon instead of pressing
the confirm key twice.

Sounds
If the announcer and crowd at screen eval are played and go into the loading screen, they stop playing.
Same goes if the player goes into service mode and resetting the game back into ScreenTitle.

Screen Evaluation
Pressing the left, right menu or enter key at screen eval when the score is in the process of displaying, it will load immediately.

Resetting
In EVENT MODE and if the player presses the Menu left, right and start at the same time, the game will reset back into the ScreenTitle.

I should add in that the MusicWheel selecting sound
once it’s endlessly scrolling it only makes one solid sound.
I’ll show a demonstration down below.



An update with ripped graphics and sounds

http://i.imgur.com/eYGl2fY.png
Credit: Aegis

Post #244 · Posted at 2020-09-22 10:21:24pm 3.5 years ago

Offline Suko
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The fixes listed in the recent posts are all nice additions. Have these been implemented into a patch for Beware's Extreme, or are they just wish list items right now? I read the last two pages and it wasn't clear to me.
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Post #245 · Posted at 2020-09-23 02:02:53am 3.5 years ago

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i have been suffering from RSI for the last years and i can't do much at all, and i need to give it rest, so projects are stalled or going very slow.

just signed up to say: thank you for all of your hard work on this, and wishing you well.
i hope you can recover at a healthy pace, and get back to whatever it is that brings you joy!

in regards to future development, i'm an EM who dabbles in bash/python (so i won't be much help), but now that there are multiple contributors how does everyone feel about moving it to github or something similar? that way we can collect issues, have semantic versioning, automate builds/releases, etc. i'm more than happy to help out with this, if everyone thinks it's worthwhile?

Post #246 · Posted at 2020-09-23 03:17:21am 3.5 years ago

Offline NekoNekoMata
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Quote: d3v1an7
Quote: beware
i have been suffering from RSI for the last years and i can't do much at all, and i need to give it rest, so projects are stalled or going very slow.

just signed up to say: thank you for all of your hard work on this, and wishing you well.
i hope you can recover at a healthy pace, and get back to whatever it is that brings you joy!

in regards to future development, i'm an EM who dabbles in bash/python (so i won't be much help), but now that there are multiple contributors how does everyone feel about moving it to github or something similar? that way we can collect issues, have semantic versioning, automate builds/releases, etc. i'm more than happy to help out with this, if everyone thinks it's worthwhile?

That would be amazing to have!!!
http://i.imgur.com/eYGl2fY.png
Credit: Aegis

Post #247 · Posted at 2020-09-23 04:50:02am 3.5 years ago

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Quote: NekoNekoMata
That would be amazing to have!!!

Cool, I'll go with do now and ask for forgiveness later then Smile

I've just had a look at the source and am punching way above my weight, but should be able to move forward with a bit of hand holding from anyone else who has built this prior. I dev on macOS, but can spin up something in Docker if that's not going to fly.

(edit, yeah, I think I'll need to do this on some debian flavour, for while this is on 3.9 at least...)
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Old Mac Builds (from 3.9 to 3.95) use PowerPC architecture! You'll need a PowerPC Mac or use a emulator like SheepShaver running MacOS X to run them as modern Macs (2009 - recent) have PowerPC removed and have been replaced with Intel x64 architecture.

@beware, I know you're not super into Discord based on a previous comment here, but I've just thrown up a channel as I think I'll need some help getting the ball rolling: https://discord.gg/wHZcPN7
I'll idle this from time to time and jump in if I see comments (AEST time).

I'll grab my laptop and see if I can get something going. Once I have an idea of how the project builds, I'll have a better idea of what needs to be committed, and how to get things automated Smile

Post #248 · Posted at 2020-09-23 05:13:18am 3.5 years ago

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@d3v1an7 Are you going to try and implement any of the stuff I listed above also the discord link is broken..? :/
http://i.imgur.com/eYGl2fY.png
Credit: Aegis

Post #249 · Posted at 2020-09-23 10:58:20am 3.5 years ago

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Quote: NekoNekoMata
@d3v1an7 Are you going to try and implement any of the stuff I listed above also the discord link is broken..? :/

My background is web dev dabbling in ops/automation, so I won't be much help with new features unfortunately, but I can hopefully help make the road easier for anyone who wants to chip in and work together on this. Looks like the link picked up the full stop, I'll fix!

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Would love to be able to build this project using modern tooling, as all the READMEs point to MSVC6, which has installation guides like this: https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/1191047/Install-Visual-Studio-on-Windows

If anyone who has recently built this (for linux or windows) could give me a PM with some tips, that'd be ace Big Grin

Post #250 · Posted at 2020-11-02 11:50:46pm 3.4 years ago

Offline NekoNekoMata
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Is this still getting updated??
http://i.imgur.com/eYGl2fY.png
Credit: Aegis

Post #251 · Posted at 2020-11-12 12:28:08pm 3.3 years ago

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Is there a way to access highscores (overall course/name entry and/or by song/difficulty) that I'm missing, or have I spent a bunch of time digging through options and experimenting for nothing? Totally get why an arcade-perfect sim wouldn't have highest-rank style clear records on song select on by default, but the lack of an option to toggle it or something similar - be that post-song scoring showing highscore alongside normal, or even just an option to pull up overall records from options - is the only thing keeping this from being my go-to stepmania install. Can't even see course highscores without waiting a minute and change for the attract screen to cycle.

I'd even be fine if the theme could be disabled to default just for the sake of checking things, before toggling it back on - but since it's so heavily modified it just crashes on attempt. Throwing a hail mary in asking to see if I'm just overlooking something obvious, though I'm not expecting anything.

Post #252 · Posted at 2020-11-28 03:16:40pm 3.3 years ago

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I don't know if these have been mentioned:
-Tsugaru and Tsugaru (Apple Mix) needs to have their bgscripts fixed. the 'f' letter is gone in the .png parts. (I haven't checked R3 and Luv to me (Disco mix))
-Maybe implement challenge-only songs in Player's Best and the Random courses in Nonstop mode.
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Background scripts for Max-Extreme Random Movies users + FMVs.

Post #253 · Posted at 2021-02-23 06:20:56pm 3 years ago

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Hey, does anyone know how to remove the "SERIES" in the music wheel when sorting to only DEFAULT, ABC, BPM and BEST??
http://i.imgur.com/eYGl2fY.png
Credit: Aegis

Post #254 · Posted at 2021-03-17 11:50:38pm 3 years ago

Offline Nate148
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No because the whole point was to remake Extreme and is likely not still being worked on

Post #255 · Posted at 2021-03-31 09:52:05pm 2.9 years ago

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Hello Evil Puppy , Im new here, I really want to play DDR games on stepmania and I found this, for some reason I can't download it, I was wondering if there was another download link, and if this work for mac maybe?

Blushing thanks for your help in advance!

Post #256 · Posted at 2021-09-20 02:28:24pm 2.5 years ago

Offline DarkFeline
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"My paw is incompurrable!"
Apologies for the bump. The link with the EX Score is no longer available. Does anybody have it?
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Credit to Lord Toon for the awesome banner.
Background scripts for Max-Extreme Random Movies users + FMVs.

Post #257 · Posted at 2021-09-23 03:11:29pm 2.5 years ago

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Quote: DarkFeline
Apologies for the bump. The link with the EX Score is no longer available. Does anybody have it?

Hi!

I have created a new link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y7epIKaufezi7XFiD0JjlNPUz8dSAqjX/view?usp=sharing

Here you will find two executables, with the following new features applied to the "unofficial r4 patch" of gzy:

Beware Extreme Pro:

- EX SCORE Scoring System added on Normal and Nonstop modes.
- Global Offset Mod in-game (F3 to decrease and F4 to increase, like F11 and F12 for Song Offset)

Beware Extreme Clarity Tournament Edition:

- EX SCORE Scoring System added on Normal and Nonstop modes.
- Global Offset Mod in-game (F3 to decrease and F4 to increase, like F11 and F12 for Song Offset)
- The TimingWindows of StepMania.ini have been removed, to avoid alteration of values ​​and cheating.
- The GradePercentValues ​​of StepMania.ini have been removed, to avoid alteration of values ​​and cheating.
- TimingWindows Adjusts respect to ARCADE values ​​(see https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/thread?threadid=7564&&page=12#p430357)
- Difficult Level reduced to one (level "ARCADE") on Machine Option.
- Fast / Slow on Normal, Nonstop and Oni Mode, like DDR EXTREME Clarity Mod (Arcade). The font is in Themes\ DDRextreme_beware\Fonts\ FastSlow font 16x16.png
- Metrics.ini slightly modified to show Marvelous, Fast and Slow in all game modes and results screens. Marvelous shine has been removed.

Post #258 · Posted at 2021-11-01 05:32:07am 2.4 years ago

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Hello everyone, I really appreciate the hard work that has been put into this! I have all of a sudden run into a couple of issues. I've had the game working fine for months now, though as of a few weeks ago, the sound isn't working and the arrows aren't showing up. My sound and speakers work fine, and I don't have invisible for the arrows turned on.

It's weird, I have been using this for a while and nothing was wrong, my normal Stepmania5 works fine and I can hear it, but for some reason, the sound isn't working for the Beware game anymore.

The options, visuals, difficulty selection, and roulette all work great still.

Any suggestions as to what could be wrong? I really would appreciate the help.

Thank you!

Post #259 · Posted at 2022-01-11 02:56:28am 2.2 years ago

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I am using the version that PlasmaVenom has provided 2 posts above. I am experimenting with adding songs from later DDR games onto the mix. I noticed that adding simfiles that have a dedicated video/avi files crash the game when trying to play them, unless you remove the avi from the simfile's folder. Is there anyway to play the song with the avi on this build without crashing?

Chiming in once again, I noticed the song "celebrate" is REALLY off sync, or rather, it seems to start on time but immediately drift behind. After downloading a new simfile from this site to try an replace it, It was the other way around, the arrows were ahead of the song... anyone else witness this, with this song or others?

Post #260 · Posted at 2022-02-21 04:17:22pm 2 years ago

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Quote: AFK797
Chiming in once again, I noticed the song "celebrate" is REALLY off sync, or rather, it seems to start on time but immediately drift behind.

Indeed, in the initial Beware simfiles, the sm file for the celebrate song had the following:

#DISPLAYBPM:134,000;
#BPMS:0.000=133.000;

The correct bpm is 134, not 133.
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