DanceDanceRevolution A (AC)

You know, it could also just... connect to show someone is playing Ace for Aces.
For statistics.
It does that even for other random songs. I've had a longer load time for Saga than Endymion before. The Connecting bar is just a graphic in the theme.

I don't mind AFA ESP. EDP also looks alright. The worst part of it all is the path to even see it in the first place. Once it becomes unlockable for everyone, it'll probably be forgotten about.

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Not legit. At least, it's far too early to call it legit yet.


There are 672 scoring items in the official ESP chart. This video has 682; 658 steps + 24 freezes. There is a discrepancy of 10 scoring items that is left unanswered.

I'm questioning this as well. In FEFEMZ's video, he has 7440 points 5 steps into the song. This video only has 7310. I picked the 5 step point since there's a big enough lull to allow the score time to stop scrolling in. Though it looks like the SM scoring isn't correct to DDRA, since using the 7310/5 to determine step count says 684, but there's still a notable discrepancy.

Check how jump-freezes are counted as 2 in the theme he's using.

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edit: removed duplicate stuff cuz ninja'd

- I didn't watch the video (don't want to be spoiled in case it really is the official chart), but in the real DDR A, a pair of freezes that start at the same time always count as one O.K., even if they end at different times (you can easily see this at the beginning of Endymion). A pair of freezes that start at different times and end at the same time count as two O.K.s.

- I guess it's always possible for a resourceful hacker to have ripped the real audio and video files, then have made up all or part of the chart.

Honestly the most sketchy thing about this is how Nicholas just posted it with no comment or no explanation of where it came from, and his arguments have essentially been "trust me, it's legit"

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That was my confusion with his response to the "need more proof than a simfile video of an edit chart" comment I made.

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If they went through all that effort to make a fake chart then I'll give them kudos for messing with everyone.

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It's jindev, he's infamous for intentionally teasing and trolling the community.

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After going back and watching the chart, it seems like something Konami would make... but something about it just feels off. We've never had a 15 quite like this before and there's nothing to compare it to, and I think that makes this a lot harder to call real or fake. If this is real, it's a very hard 15, and we're not going to see anyone pass this before it's moved to Extra Stage because of the 50 BPM section

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Analyzed the leaked charts not too long ago.

ENDYMION CDP scares me. It takes what makes OTP and Ego CDP hard, combines them, and puts them to utter shame. How it wasn't rated a 20 is beyond me.

A4A ESP/EDP are utter garbage. Once again, Konami takes ambiguity to a whole new level with chartwriting. They really expected one of us to PFC those charts, huh? smdh

I worry how far out of control any data leaks will end up going in the future. It's cool that we get to see content like this, but at the same time, I don't want it to jeopardize any chances of future arcade releases. I could be cynical, but whatever.

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I think I can answer the how it's not rated a 20: POSSESSION. It's well-known for being the only song in the game that's a 19 on Doubles but not Singles (18).

Here's the thing: It was originally rated a Doubles 18 as well; probably (so this is entirely conjecture) because the only 19 in the game was Valkyrie Dimension and they wanted to preserve it being the only 19 on both Singles/Doubles, despite actually having an arguably easier doubles challenge chart than the aforementioned POSSESSION. Something tells me that they don't want to unveil the 20-footer rating until a Singles Challenge chart gets up to a 20, and something tells me that's probably going to basically be PARANOiA Revolution at 440 BPM.

I don't find ESP as utter garbage after reading it a few times (and I didn't find the tempo changes aside from going down to 50 as bad as I expected, though the ending is basically just "you know it or you don't"), but yeah, there's a lot of ambiguous charting in there. EDP I can't speak for, I can't read doubles.

As a PFC-only chart though, I consider worse than OT'P' . That's...kind of impressive, for all the wrong reasons but impressive nonethless, really.


I mean at this point the mix has basically run out of steam; unless there's new songs in the data leak I'm pretty sure that it won't matter at this point.

EDIT: Alternatively, for the first 20, they step this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M__TApCPBKI

I propose we don't talk about these "leaked" charts anymore until we have some kind of conformation that they're real. I'm not meaning to backseat mod, but I'm also not meaning to provide a troll with mass amounts of attention. Let's wait until we see FEFEMZ get a new WR on AFA and then we can see if the "leaked" chart is correct? (TAKASKE isn't grinding endy doubles anymore afaik)

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The data is all on the hard drive, there is no fetching of individual files from the server like you suggest. Say for instance the machine is in offline/local mode, that "CONNECTING" bar (which is purely aesthetic) still shows up. Don't think that just because this has a US release that people aren't going to be playing things they shouldn't be privately.

How long before someone makes a robot that can OCR a chart off the screen and step it in real time, rendering all of our problems with Encore Extra Stage mystery charts solved permanently (even if Konami were to actually go for the fetching-files-from-the-server strategy)

/shitpost2

I've actually heard people think this is a viable solution, I'm not gonna lie.

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You know, If Konami still has no plans of unlocking Ace for Aces Expert for Normal play, they should at least get its Expert Chart playable now just by passing Endymion Expert and not Challenge.

The ripped video is unique in that it doesn't have any artist credits like it does in the EES, which I think also lends some credence to it being real..

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AFA has to have a challenge chart. The expert chart felt like it held back from touching the music. I like feeling the chart to the music, and the expert chart doesn't do the song justice. What if AFA challenge charts is the 20?? Why else would Konami introduce split timing on a song with easy charts that must be PFC'd after playing a literal rhythm game nightmare???

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This literally means nothing?

They are two different charts. Just because it is an 18 on one mode doesn't mean it has to be the same on the other.

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