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Post #441 · Posted at 2020-06-22 05:27:23am 4.9 years ago

Offline chewi
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Quote: tsugaru7reveng
If anyone feels like changing Fly you to the star's video offset you may tweak the #BGCHANGES line to start at -0.500 instead. I won't update the file anymore since it's too late for that I guess.

Thanks for the feedback.
It's ok, it's not a game breaking thing anyway Tongue just me nitpicking.

Bump:
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Song title + lyrics. Heavy has 53 jumps and 2 rows of shock arrows.
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Post #442 · Posted at 2020-06-22 10:03:25am 4.9 years ago

Offline K-Step
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Everything's space-themed in this one.

Contains 53 jumps + 6 rows of mines in Heavy.

Post #443 · Posted at 2020-06-22 03:14:11pm 4.9 years ago

Offline chewi
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Continuing on with my impressions.
Part 1: https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/thread?threadid=10611&page=22#p435465

Notes:
I'm not scoring publicly for obvious reasons.
These are just my opinions.
I only played the hardest single difficulty (and if there's an edit, I played Challenge/Heavy instead)

HiT! HiT! HiT! (CLOUDIO) - cool song. i thought the chart was OK, not bad by any means. i just wasn't a fan of parts like m26-m33 and m52-m54 for example. also, might be more of a 14 than a 13.

Kiss & Tell (K-Step) - ok song. i would have liked this better without the bpm gimmicks and rolls. it also ended kinda awkwardly.

Like it! (DDRDAIKENKAI) - nice song. small nitpick but it feels more like this should be a challenge chart. as for the chart itself, i don't have any complaints about it.

Make It Werk (djVERTICAI) - cool song. i thought the chart complimented the song and it didn't feel overkill at all. overall pretty solid.

Now a New Day (mathio214) - the audio seems a bit low quality. can't say the same about the steps, though. however there are a few things i would change: have the steps start at m3 (remove the 1/4ths before), m51-59 could be reworked to match with the background sounds of the song, right now the freezes don't really go to anything. m66-m68 could be improved too, by adding more steps to improve flow. m18 and m42's l+r jumps are ok, but kinda boring.
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Post #444 · Posted at 2020-06-22 04:33:21pm 4.9 years ago

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Boomy and The Boost / Eagle

BPM: 174
Beginner - 4 Light - 7 Standard - 12 Heavy - 14

Eagle is a bird that flies. (I did ask just in case and got the ok for this).

Post #445 · Posted at 2020-06-22 05:35:19pm 4.9 years ago

Offline tsugaru7reveng
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Week 4 - ZIv Airlines Entry
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200 BPM
Challenge 15

I thought I was gonna sit out this round. Last time I checked, airplanes pass through clouds. This was oozing air potential.

Also, love the idea of brackets.

Has 176 jumps.

Post #446 · Posted at 2020-06-23 04:13:11am 4.9 years ago

Offline K-Step
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Hey, so I decided to do some thoughts/feedback/opinions for Group 2's [Small Steps] files.

I play only the hardest chart available unless stated otherwise and not revealing my scores for obvious reasons.

Ah! Leah! (_|/-\43D)
The rhythm choices throughout the Heavy chart felt too random at times and a tad too overstepped. Especially for a song like this. The standard chart is okay, nothing wrong with it. Though both charts seem to end abruptly. Maybe a bit off-sync?

All in You (vincentw)
The scroll gimmicks, while a cute way to spice up a file, it kind of makes the song feel like it drags on a bit too long. The steps are good, however. Though, like chewi said, I would suggest extending the freeze at b33.5 to maybe a b35 or b34.75 so it feels like it goes to the song a bit more.

B Who I Want 2 B (chewi)
I think the steps absolutely fit to accommodate the production. Not too difficult, yet not too simple. A nice balance. A slight nitpick, but I feel like the video isn’t exactly in sync with the song (and I don’t if it’s due to the offset for #BGCHANGES or if that’s how the video was cut to be in similar length), but that’s not related to the steps. Top notch steps here.

Cave Me In (DigitalBasic)
Nice to see the different sections stepped in the Heavy chart. Pretty fun steps. One minor complaint would be that I feel the steps could’ve gone along to the production a bit more during the triplet section (b164 to b190).

Dead Soul (Daffa)
Nice to see you back, mate. The three charts I played (Standard, Heavy and Challenge) are genuinely fun to play through. I especially appreciate the spins in Standard as a way to spice up the song. Would’ve liked to see a long hold note when the first drop ends in the Challenge chart at least, but that’s a minor nitpick. Overall, very good charts.

EPIC (Pika-Vix)
Good lord, the 16th streams at the beginning of the heavy chart was brutal. Not a fan of that. The rest of the chart was fine, though it definitely feels like a 15, not a 14. I did play the standard chart out of curiosity, but honestly, it feels understepped at times. Especially during the ending and intro portions of the chart. And I think some of the notes don’t match to the song in the Standard chart?

F/E/D/R (I Don’t Care) (TonyAkita)
It’s okay. Not much to say about it. I do appreciate the slight charting differences between Heavy and Challenge.

Fly you to the star (t7r)
The steps are cute. I like it, overall. The ending kind of threw me off a bit, but I don’t hate it.

Gate One (ledgam3r)
I really like it. Both the Standard and Heavy charts. The stops are a nice addition to the simfile and the jumps at the beginning are just a blast to hit the notes. No complaints here.

Get Your Wish (Czery)
Oh boy. Where do I start? Considering I stepped this song as well in a recent contest before this one, I expected at least some differences between mine and this one. I appreciate the effort in here, but it feels offsync. The Challenge chart was overstepped. The stop, I feel, wasn’t necessary and, while I appreciate the speed gimmicks in this one (much like being underwater), it felt like you just stopped using it near the end of the first chorus. The Heavy chart is the biggest offender for me. The steps don’t even go to the song most of the time, the mines in this one (I feel) should’ve gone with the ticks, and the chart’s not even finished (like about 3 measures before it actually finishes like the Challenge chart).

HiT! HiT! HiT! (CLOUDIO)
The chart’s alright. Not much to say about it, to be honest.

Like It! (DDRDAIKENKAI)
Much like the song title describes, I like it. There’s a nice balance between stepping the vocals and the instrumental. The patterning in this one is also good.

Make It Werk (dj VERTICAI)
Patterning is pretty clean. The rhythm choices make sense to the song. The song itself felt it went on a bit too long, but I think the steps are pretty good in this one.

Now A New Day (mathio124)
Now this is absolutely an improvement from your first file. I enjoyed this one. The patterning is definitely improved and makes sense to the song. Only thing I would’ve liked to see is there should be steps that complement to the kicks during the long hold note section (b204 to b227.5) and perhaps end it with two hold notes at b271.

Quon (marten)
Not really a fan of boss level charts (I usually like to play charts rated at 10-15 on X-Scale), but I can see why this song warrants for it. It’s also very good with how the steps and patterning mesh with the song. And the half-BPM sections are a welcome addition and fit to this. Bonus points for stepping a variety of different sounds in this one.

Rise Up (Silver Spirit)
Pretty enjoyable chart. Would’ve like to see some sections that go a half the BPM and maybe throw in a couple of rolls into it, but I can see why it wasn’t needed. The only problem I have with it is that the in the section m22-23, it seems like the first half doesn’t completely go to the instrumental and only in the second half it does. Just turn that section into a stream of 16th notes and it’ll be an improvement.

Set Me Free (Pandy X)
Very fun Standard and Heavy charts. Do like the stop usage in this one, though the last two threw me off a bit. The patterning in both charts feel distinct and has some nice similarities and differences between them.

Sing For You (ian)
The song felt pretty short, but the steps aren’t bad. Hell, it’s pretty fun. It has a nice flow and variety to it. Perhaps a 13 would be a more appropriate rating for Challenge, but that’s a minor nitpick for me.

The Blue (talkion)
A little bit surprised that there are mines near the end of the Challenge chart, though I guess that’s what the warps were used for. Really, the charts in this are pretty good. I like the steps and how it varies with the different sounds in this song. I especially love how it ends in each of the charts. Feels like a nice descent to the end of the song.

TO THE CLUB (tamtamino)
Would’ve started the chart when the vocals kicked in at measure 4, but honestly it was really fun to play through the song. Steps feel appropriate and retain the classic DDR patterning and rhythm motifs in this one.

Toy (Oni-91)
Funnily enough, I did have a WIP of this song and honestly considered finishing that one up to submit in this one, but I decided to go with another song. The intro did throw me off, mainly because that’s not how I remember the song goes lol. That has nothing to do with the steps, though. The steps are really fun and it flows nicely. Nothing else to say about it, really.

Yeah Oh Ahh Oh! (DJXYZ)
It’s alright. Felt pretty repetitive, but that’s just the nature of the song, so I can’t complain too much about it. The last stop was really evil, though. Don’t really have any problems with the two other stops, those are fine. Honestly, if you just end of with a long hold note and perhaps another note at the end of the hold note instead of a long stop, it would elevate the charts more.


Overall, most of the charts are very good much like last week and the week before that.

Post #447 · Posted at 2020-06-23 05:19:10am 4.9 years ago

Offline chewi
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The video for my file was made offsync with the song. It bothers me too.

Bump: Continuing on with my impressions.
Part 2: https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/thread?threadid=10611&page=23#p435482

Notes:
I'm not scoring publicly for obvious reasons.
These are just my opinions.
I only played the hardest single difficulty (and if there's an edit, I played Challenge/Heavy instead)

Quon (hypnoticmarten77) - song isn't really my taste. the chart compliments the song without making me feel like it's overstepped, so i'm satisfied.

Rise Up (Silver Spirit) - cool song. definitely some doublesteps that were missed on the chart that ruin the flow (we talked about this already). other than that i liked it. i appreciate that you changed up the steps on the repetitive wubby parts.

Set Me Free (Pandemonium X) - ok song. i thought the chart was ok except i didn't care for any of the stops or the section from m27-m34. i like the jump part, but not so much the streaminess.

Sing For You (ohaiimian) - short and sweet, i thought the chart was really well made, but felt more like a 13 because of the song length?

The Blue (talkion) - ok song. i wasn't a fan of the ending though, it could have easily been a fade out. feels like it goes on for too long.

TO THE CLUB (tamtamino) - cute song, love the graphics too. i liked the chart it was fun! nothing much else to say.

Toy (Oni-91) - this song is probably my favorite choice for this week in my group. a huge bop. the chart was really great too!

Yeah Oh Ahhh Oh! (The Legendary DJXYZ) - ok song. was a little repetitive but not that bad. the only thing i would change is remove the last stop (maybe i'm just a little salty though).
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Similarly to last week, I'm most likely gonna only play the other group's files that catch my interest and if I have anything to say I'll post it here, too.

Also, I forgot to say, thanks for 3rd place last week! I was a little scared because I wasn't sure how the stops in my file would be received Tongue
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Post #448 · Posted at 2020-06-23 05:34:54am 4.9 years ago

Offline vincentw
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"cuppa"
Thank you for your reviews of All in You! I greatly appreciate them.

About the song being too long:
I definitely see the point and honestly, I feel the same way. It's just that, while I really like the song, cutting it to under 2:30 is varying degrees of awkward.

The song structure is verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-interlude-chorus/coda. There are two ways I could go about this: verse-chorus-bridge-ending, or verse-chorus-verse-chorus/coda. I went with the first one.

The reason I didn't go with the second option is that the song's third chorus sounds quite different to the 1st or 2nd chorus, so I don't think I could cut away from the 2nd verse directly to the 3rd chorus. I felt like I should cap it at the interlude, which is workable as an ending, and in turn caused the bridge to be included.

The interlude can be cut pretty seamlessly, but there isn't really a good way to cut the bridge since it's steadily rising in intensity (whisper-quiet-normal-loud), so cutting like the middle 8 measures would sound really off, and cutting the first 8 measures doesn't sound comfortable either. I thought at the time that it needed some time to build up.

In the end, the cut that I went with here is a compromise that I thought would sound the least awkward to work with, even if it drags on for a bit. In hindsight, cutting the first 8 bars of the bridge might also work, but I remember not liking how that turned out when I heard it.

As a side note, the official video mixes the song differently from the soundtrack version at the ending. The video's ends it at the interlude and adds the vocal sections to the end rather than at the start like in the soundtrack, but then immediately fades in the latter half of the coda. The final cut uses audio from the official video for the ending bit since I like it better.

The scrolls compounding the dragging feeling is unfortunately the side effect of the song cut. I thought it looked cute, but I can see why it felt that way.

About the inconsistent hold length: that's an oversight, thanks for pointing it out!

Post #449 · Posted at 2020-06-23 06:43:23am 4.9 years ago

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When are we going to extend the 2:30 limit?

Honestly, it's not like that many people will submit over 2:30 anyways. Why not let those songs that are just not right under 2:30 be the length they're supposed to be? As long as they're not TOO long anyways...

Post #450 · Posted at 2020-06-23 07:05:50am 4.9 years ago

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Some updates on what's acceptable for song choices:

- 'Heaven' is acceptable if it's explicit that the song references heaven in the context of the skies, and not in the religious sense
- Cosmic events such as eclipses are acceptable
- Mentioning the words sky or space alone (the latter if it's actually said in the context of outer space) in the lyrics or title are acceptable. With this in mind, weather-related songs are still acceptable if they mention said words explicitly in the title, artist or lyrics.

Post #451 · Posted at 2020-06-23 10:22:23am 4.9 years ago

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The intro did throw me off, mainly because that’s not how I remember the song goes lol.

Ah, the version on the ESC 2018 album itself was different from both the official video cut and the live version. No clue which one Netta used for her actual album. I was originally going to put the video on this too, but the intro would have been a bit of a weird visual clash if she's doing her chicken thing and it's inaudible. That's the official excuse I'm taking, it's either that or I'd have to admit I'm lazy.
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Post #452 · Posted at 2020-06-23 02:17:23pm 4.9 years ago

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When are we going to extend the 2:30 limit?

Honestly, it's not like that many people will submit over 2:30 anyways. Why not let those songs that are just not right under 2:30 be the length they're supposed to be? As long as they're not TOO long anyways...

I think having time constraints is more of a practical constraint with the competition and judging. I'd like to play everyone's songs from start the finish at least once and I don't want to have to judge thirty 10-minute trance songs. Big Grin Also out of respect for the old 2:30 single song time limits. I know that tournament style packs get put on the stepmania machine at my local arcade and I would prefer to spend my credits on variety :3

Anyways, I'm thrilled to see the high quality submissions and reviews! I would love to write detailed reviews but I don't have a working pad at this moment so I'm reserving writing public reviews. I have to admit I'm not thrilled with my last submission as it was rushed and I still screwed up the submission several times. I hope this week will be a bit better.

EDIT: Get ready for poorly placed jumps Evil Puppy

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Challenge 14
51 jumps

Post #453 · Posted at 2020-06-23 07:29:53pm 4.9 years ago

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I do not relish a change to the time limit. I already think 2:30 is too long.

EDIT: So I know thinking of new ideas each week is hard and I don't want this to come off seeming like rude or anything but I'm really not feeling this week's maxi challenge. Finding a song that both fits this theme and can sustain like a zillion jumps without feeling like I had to force jumps in where I didn't want them is hurting the quality of my entry a bit, I think jumps are used too often and in fairly lazy ways as it is already so I don't know if this is necessarily producing good work from me and I'm sure others feel the same?

In the future I think it might be best to like, either have specific asks for the title or the steps but not both, idk

Anyway it's too late to change it I just wanted to say something, i'm done being karen now

Post #454 · Posted at 2020-06-23 07:32:55pm 4.9 years ago

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Post #455 · Posted at 2020-06-23 09:01:39pm 4.9 years ago

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They don't have to be jumps.



Every shock arrow in this chart can be played as a middle step and still falls within the jump requirements.
Just pretend you are making a 5-panel chart instead. There's plenty of ways to apply this so it doesn't have to be a full stream either. Even 4 beats of nothing but shock arrows count as 4 jumps if it fits. I'm sure anyone cheesing the theme to have a full measure of 32nd shock arrows are going to be called out for that nonsense.

Post #456 · Posted at 2020-06-23 09:14:45pm 4.9 years ago

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I think jumps are used too often and in fairly lazy ways

Well, I think that's part of the challenge - to find a creative way to insert all of those jumps without feeling like they're just shoehorned in. Wink And remember that shock arrows count too, see DigitalBasic's post for a good example. Don't forget about smooooch・∀・ and DOWNER & UPPER, too.

Post #457 · Posted at 2020-06-23 09:57:48pm 4.9 years ago

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Yeah I don't really use mines but I guess that's my problem isn't it, point taken Smile

Post #458 · Posted at 2020-06-23 10:32:32pm 4.9 years ago

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[Week 4 - ZIv Airlines]

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from beatmania IIDX 11 IIDX RED
Challenge 14
BPM: 133

Post #459 · Posted at 2020-06-23 11:38:40pm 4.9 years ago

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[Week 4 - ZIv Airlines]

Star Command - zircon
Beginner:6 Light:12 Standard:14 Heavy:17 Challenge:19

Post #460 · Posted at 2020-06-24 02:42:43am 4.9 years ago

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Thought for a moment we chose the same song when I saw "Zircon" Smile

Ladder to the Sky - Zircon

Beginner 2 | Light 4 | Standard 7 | Heavy 11 | Challenge 14
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