Post #1 · Posted at 2011-10-25 10:34:55am 12.5 years ago
Is anyone interested in making DDR X ratings for other songs that aren't in DDRX-X2?
Downlad the list of ratings here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?jjxcf9o995hm3vf
Mixes done:
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2nd Club version (arcade)
Max, Max2, Extreme
Max US, Max2 US
Mixes to do:
Extreme US, Extreme2 US, Supernova US, Supernova2 US, Supernova
Possibly:
Ultramix 1-4
Universe 1-3
Hottest Party 1-3
Suggest any debatable ratings, mixes/songs you'd like to see, or contribute your own set of DDR X ratings. Doubles ratings are appreciated as I don't have much experience with doubles.
My goal is to have a database of DDR X ratings for older songs to compare them to modern songs.
Downlad the list of ratings here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?jjxcf9o995hm3vf
Mixes done:
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2nd Club version (arcade)
Max, Max2, Extreme
Max US, Max2 US
Mixes to do:
Extreme US, Extreme2 US, Supernova US, Supernova2 US, Supernova
Possibly:
Ultramix 1-4
Universe 1-3
Hottest Party 1-3
Suggest any debatable ratings, mixes/songs you'd like to see, or contribute your own set of DDR X ratings. Doubles ratings are appreciated as I don't have much experience with doubles.
My goal is to have a database of DDR X ratings for older songs to compare them to modern songs.
Post #2 · Posted at 2011-10-25 12:33:33pm 12.5 years ago
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This sounds interesting, and since you did 1st-4th, why not just go in the order of arcade mixes? Maybe I could help out with console releases and such. I would say just about the familiar ones I saw on that list of yours were just about right. My Fire is kind of debatable though, some say the patterns aren't complicated enough to warrant a 14, but I'd say it's probably a harder 13.
Post #3 · Posted at 2011-10-25 05:33:58pm 12.5 years ago
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I started doing this at one point but lost motivation. I actually have an unfinished directory of Official X-Scale ratings (that's maybe 1/5 done) so maybe we can combine these if you finish this project? I'm willing to help with this too if needed.
Post #4 · Posted at 2011-10-25 08:21:53pm 12.5 years ago
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May i help ?
Maybe not all songs but here are some old DDR songs with X scale : (Single)
Justify My Love : 3 7 13
Do You Remember Me 2 3 7 12
Twilight Zone RC EX Club Mix : 3 5 7 13
Witchdoctor Giant toon version : 3 5 7 14
High Off You : 1 3 7 11
Lovin' You Rob Searle Club Mix : 3 3 9 12
Wonderland UKS Mix : 3 6 7 10
More Than I Needed To Know : 5 7 9
It's Raining Men Almighty Mix : 2 3 7 11
Speed Over Beethoven : 5 6 9 12
I DO I DO I DO : 2 3 7 10
Ska A Go Go : 3 9 12 13
Boom Boom Dollar KOGG3 Mix : 3 7 11 12
Turn Me On Heavenly Mix : 3 6 8 10
Strictly Business : 6 7 8
Kung Fu Fighting : 3 5 6
Maybe not all songs but here are some old DDR songs with X scale : (Single)
Justify My Love : 3 7 13
Do You Remember Me 2 3 7 12
Twilight Zone RC EX Club Mix : 3 5 7 13
Witchdoctor Giant toon version : 3 5 7 14
High Off You : 1 3 7 11
Lovin' You Rob Searle Club Mix : 3 3 9 12
Wonderland UKS Mix : 3 6 7 10
More Than I Needed To Know : 5 7 9
It's Raining Men Almighty Mix : 2 3 7 11
Speed Over Beethoven : 5 6 9 12
I DO I DO I DO : 2 3 7 10
Ska A Go Go : 3 9 12 13
Boom Boom Dollar KOGG3 Mix : 3 7 11 12
Turn Me On Heavenly Mix : 3 6 8 10
Strictly Business : 6 7 8
Kung Fu Fighting : 3 5 6
Post #5 · Posted at 2011-10-25 10:47:08pm 12.5 years ago
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I updated the list with songs from these mixes: 5th, Max, Max2, Extreme, Max US, Max2 US. Check the first post.
Post #6 · Posted at 2011-10-25 10:56:43pm 12.5 years ago
Started doing something like this on my old recording computer, before it crashed:
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EDIT: Oh yeah, this one too:
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EDIT: Oh yeah, this one too:
Post #7 · Posted at 2011-10-26 05:20:47am 12.5 years ago
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Is the "multiply by 1.5" rule still the current wisdom in converting the old step ratings to the new X-scale, or has it gotten a lot more complicated?
Post #8 · Posted at 2011-10-26 06:55:01am 12.5 years ago
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Quote: Wolfman Jake
Is the "multiply by 1.5" rule still the current wisdom in converting the old step ratings to the new X-scale, or has it gotten a lot more complicated?
For the sake of acuracy this isn't necesarily true. Although you generally get pretty close some ratings, such as 12 include medium 8s to really easy 9s, while 14s include easy 10s and very hard 9s. 15s however seem to be max300 to maxx unlimited difficulty, 16s seem to be any 11 easier than psmo, while 17s include 11s harder than psmos and up to medium 12s.
Post #9 · Posted at 2011-10-26 07:08:35am 12.5 years ago
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I would also AT LEAST do the Japanese CS mixes, because those songs tend to end up in the arcades.
Post #10 · Posted at 2011-10-26 08:49:23am 12.5 years ago
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If majority here are doing the conversion to X-scale from songs "DDR SuperNOVA2" and below, mine in reverse =D converting X and X2 songs to original 1-10 scale, cos DDR version with 1-10 scale are greater than DDR version with 1-20 scale, less work, less time
Post #11 · Posted at 2011-10-26 12:29:21pm 12.5 years ago
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About the only variance to the 1.5 rule seems to be in the middle of the range: X-8s usually translate to 6s (or a couple of heavy 5s which were probably rated harshly due to low stepcounts), X-9s equate to middle-7s, and X-10s to hard 7s or very easy 8s.
Post #12 · Posted at 2011-10-27 01:10:10pm 12.5 years ago
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I've already mentioned this before, but exactly how inaccurate is the following?
Anything below 6 on old scale is either the same rating on the new scale or 1 higher (old 1-footer = 1 or 2 new scale, old 2-footer = 2 or 3 new scale, and so on). An old 6 ranges from 6 to 8 on new scale, old 7 ranges from 8 to 10, old 8 ranges 10 to 12, old 9 ranges 12 to 14, old 10 ranges 14 to 16, and I guess what would qualify as an 11 ranges 16 to 18.
If this is accurate, then we can use the following formulas for converting old ratings to new (x = old rating): the old rating ranges from x to x+1 when x <6, but when x >6, the old rating ranges from 2x - 6 to 2x - 4.
So, a new 5 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 4's to the lower half of old 5's, a new 6 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 5's to the lowest third of 6's, a new 7 is basically a normal old scale 6, a new 8 ranges from highest third of old 6's to lowest third of 7's (new 8 = anything from tough 6 to easy 7), and so on.
I figured this because a new 9 seems to be equivalent to old 7, and new 13 seems to = old 9, and each range works out equally this way. I guess I could be totally off...
Anything below 6 on old scale is either the same rating on the new scale or 1 higher (old 1-footer = 1 or 2 new scale, old 2-footer = 2 or 3 new scale, and so on). An old 6 ranges from 6 to 8 on new scale, old 7 ranges from 8 to 10, old 8 ranges 10 to 12, old 9 ranges 12 to 14, old 10 ranges 14 to 16, and I guess what would qualify as an 11 ranges 16 to 18.
If this is accurate, then we can use the following formulas for converting old ratings to new (x = old rating): the old rating ranges from x to x+1 when x <6, but when x >6, the old rating ranges from 2x - 6 to 2x - 4.
So, a new 5 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 4's to the lower half of old 5's, a new 6 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 5's to the lowest third of 6's, a new 7 is basically a normal old scale 6, a new 8 ranges from highest third of old 6's to lowest third of 7's (new 8 = anything from tough 6 to easy 7), and so on.
I figured this because a new 9 seems to be equivalent to old 7, and new 13 seems to = old 9, and each range works out equally this way. I guess I could be totally off...
Post #13 · Posted at 2011-10-28 08:19:30am 12.5 years ago
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Quote: Dreamboy
I've already mentioned this before, but exactly how inaccurate is the following?
Anything below 6 on old scale is either the same rating on the new scale or 1 higher (old 1-footer = 1 or 2 new scale, old 2-footer = 2 or 3 new scale, and so on). An old 6 ranges from 6 to 8 on new scale, old 7 ranges from 8 to 10, old 8 ranges 10 to 12, old 9 ranges 12 to 14, old 10 ranges 14 to 16, and I guess what would qualify as an 11 ranges 16 to 18.
If this is accurate, then we can use the following formulas for converting old ratings to new (x = old rating): the old rating ranges from x to x+1 when x <6, but when x >6, the old rating ranges from 2x - 6 to 2x - 4.
So, a new 5 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 4's to the lower half of old 5's, a new 6 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 5's to the lowest third of 6's, a new 7 is basically a normal old scale 6, a new 8 ranges from highest third of old 6's to lowest third of 7's (new 8 = anything from tough 6 to easy 7), and so on.
I figured this because a new 9 seems to be equivalent to old 7, and new 13 seems to = old 9, and each range works out equally this way. I guess I could be totally off...
Anything below 6 on old scale is either the same rating on the new scale or 1 higher (old 1-footer = 1 or 2 new scale, old 2-footer = 2 or 3 new scale, and so on). An old 6 ranges from 6 to 8 on new scale, old 7 ranges from 8 to 10, old 8 ranges 10 to 12, old 9 ranges 12 to 14, old 10 ranges 14 to 16, and I guess what would qualify as an 11 ranges 16 to 18.
If this is accurate, then we can use the following formulas for converting old ratings to new (x = old rating): the old rating ranges from x to x+1 when x <6, but when x >6, the old rating ranges from 2x - 6 to 2x - 4.
So, a new 5 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 4's to the lower half of old 5's, a new 6 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 5's to the lowest third of 6's, a new 7 is basically a normal old scale 6, a new 8 ranges from highest third of old 6's to lowest third of 7's (new 8 = anything from tough 6 to easy 7), and so on.
I figured this because a new 9 seems to be equivalent to old 7, and new 13 seems to = old 9, and each range works out equally this way. I guess I could be totally off...
(Thinking more ITG) I can't judge below 9's, but 14-15 seems to be a 10. 16s generally would act as an 11 (below PSMO). Piss easy 9s are 11s, harder ones are 13s. 17 would be a low end 12 (PSMO level). 18s would be the hardest 12s/easier 13s, and 19s would be 13s.
Quote: Dreamboy
I've already mentioned this before, but exactly how inaccurate is the following?
Anything below 6 on old scale is either the same rating on the new scale or 1 higher (old 1-footer = 1 or 2 new scale, old 2-footer = 2 or 3 new scale, and so on). An old 6 ranges from 6 to 8 on new scale, old 7 ranges from 8 to 10, old 8 ranges 10 to 12, old 9 ranges 12 to 14, old 10 ranges 14 to 16, and I guess what would qualify as an 11 ranges 16 to 18.
If this is accurate, then we can use the following formulas for converting old ratings to new (x = old rating): the old rating ranges from x to x+1 when x <6, but when x >6, the old rating ranges from 2x - 6 to 2x - 4.
So, a new 5 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 4's to the lower half of old 5's, a new 6 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 5's to the lowest third of 6's, a new 7 is basically a normal old scale 6, a new 8 ranges from highest third of old 6's to lowest third of 7's (new 8 = anything from tough 6 to easy 7), and so on.
I figured this because a new 9 seems to be equivalent to old 7, and new 13 seems to = old 9, and each range works out equally this way. I guess I could be totally off...
Anything below 6 on old scale is either the same rating on the new scale or 1 higher (old 1-footer = 1 or 2 new scale, old 2-footer = 2 or 3 new scale, and so on). An old 6 ranges from 6 to 8 on new scale, old 7 ranges from 8 to 10, old 8 ranges 10 to 12, old 9 ranges 12 to 14, old 10 ranges 14 to 16, and I guess what would qualify as an 11 ranges 16 to 18.
If this is accurate, then we can use the following formulas for converting old ratings to new (x = old rating): the old rating ranges from x to x+1 when x <6, but when x >6, the old rating ranges from 2x - 6 to 2x - 4.
So, a new 5 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 4's to the lower half of old 5's, a new 6 ranges anywhere from the upper half of old 5's to the lowest third of 6's, a new 7 is basically a normal old scale 6, a new 8 ranges from highest third of old 6's to lowest third of 7's (new 8 = anything from tough 6 to easy 7), and so on.
I figured this because a new 9 seems to be equivalent to old 7, and new 13 seems to = old 9, and each range works out equally this way. I guess I could be totally off...
(Thinking more ITG) I can't judge below 9's, but 14-15 seems to be a 10. 16s generally would act as an 11 (below PSMO). Piss easy 9s are 11s, harder ones are 13s. 17 would be a low end 12 (PSMO level). 18s would be the hardest 12s/easier 13s, and 19s would be 13s.
Post #14 · Posted at 2011-10-28 09:44:36am 12.5 years ago
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"X scale 20" |
New scale - old scale equivalent
1- Easy 1
2 - Hard 1
3 - Most 2's
4 - 3 or hard 2
5 - hard 3-medium 4
6- hard 4-easy 5
7- 5
8- 6
9- easy to mid 7
10- hard 7-easy 8
11- mid 8
12- hard 8- easy 9
13- mid-hard 9
14- easy 10
15- hard 10
16 - 11
17- hard 11- easy 12
18- hard 12- 13
19- 14
20- 15
1- Easy 1
2 - Hard 1
3 - Most 2's
4 - 3 or hard 2
5 - hard 3-medium 4
6- hard 4-easy 5
7- 5
8- 6
9- easy to mid 7
10- hard 7-easy 8
11- mid 8
12- hard 8- easy 9
13- mid-hard 9
14- easy 10
15- hard 10
16 - 11
17- hard 11- easy 12
18- hard 12- 13
19- 14
20- 15
Post #15 · Posted at 2011-11-02 02:30:15pm 12.5 years ago
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DEAD END ("GROOVE RADAR" Special) in "DDR SuperNOVA2" is rated 10, while in "DDR X" is rated 18
Post #16 · Posted at 2011-11-02 03:33:16pm 12.5 years ago
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They actually put that pile of slop on DDR X?
DEGRS really should be way higher than an 18, because of those ridiculous 16th jumps.
DEGRS really should be way higher than an 18, because of those ridiculous 16th jumps.
Post #17 · Posted at 2011-11-02 07:15:35pm 12.5 years ago
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Quote: Arrows&Beats
They actually put that pile of slop on DDR X?
DEGRS really should be way higher than an 18, because of those ridiculous 16th jumps.
DEGRS really should be way higher than an 18, because of those ridiculous 16th jumps.
As a person who's managed to spam their way through every 18-footer DDR's given us so far, Dead End GRS quite honestly deserves its 18-footer status. Sure, the jump-drills are an ass, but unless you're playing the song in sudden death mode (which would be your own stupid fault if you did) then the rest is no worse than what NGO, FELM or HDV throws at you. It's definitely a hell of a lot easier than VDim.
Post #18 · Posted at 2011-11-05 11:18:56pm 12.5 years ago
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Quote: Arrows&Beats
They actually put that pile of slop on DDR X?
DEGRS really should be way higher than an 18, because of those ridiculous 16th jumps.
DEGRS really should be way higher than an 18, because of those ridiculous 16th jumps.
...but unless you're playing the song in sudden death mode (which would be your own stupid fault if you did)...
coughPS2X2coughENCOREEXTRASTAGEcoughcoughWTF
EDIT: Not that anybody would AA PtF to begin with, lol.
Post #19 · Posted at 2011-11-05 11:38:36pm 12.5 years ago
Has anyone rated the HP3 (the ones not in X2 CS/AC) and MUSIC FIT licenses on the X scale?
Post #20 · Posted at 2011-12-24 08:41:13am 12.3 years ago
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Can you please re-uploaded the list of ratings again? Because the link says "Invalid or Deleted File." Can you do it?