Picture Details
| 17 AAA | |
|---|---|
| Picture Name | 17 AAA |
| Picture Description | 573 with 5thMIX |
| Uploader | Mercury |
| Uploaded At | 2009-05-05 05:01am 16.1 years ago |
| Dimensions | 1280x1024 |
| File Size | 151KB (JPEG) |
| Hits | 1297 |
Comments
Oni-91
Personally, I think that if the timings are the same as the arcade counterparts, it's fair game. I'd only think that scores would be invalid if there was a definite advantage to playing this way (relaxed timings or whatever).
16.1 years ago · Comment #9
16.1 years ago · Comment #9
Chi
Thread, yo: http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/viewthread.php?threadid=2300&page=1
16.1 years ago · Comment #8
16.1 years ago · Comment #8
Highflyer
Put it this way:
Is there any reason why an arcade couldn't, if they wanted to, replace the "arcade pads" with two cobalt flux's properly wired.
Could they not unhook the speakers and use other ones? Could they not change the screen?
If you go through these questions, you'd have to get to the point of, at what point does this become not an official machine? It will never become CS/Home version for the reason that it uses the AC software, but how much hardware needs to be intact for it to be official. And then go on and ask, if that's unofficial, what about the cabs that have replacement sensors not designed for DDR cabs and other modifications. What makes that any different?
16.1 years ago · Comment #7
Is there any reason why an arcade couldn't, if they wanted to, replace the "arcade pads" with two cobalt flux's properly wired.
Could they not unhook the speakers and use other ones? Could they not change the screen?
If you go through these questions, you'd have to get to the point of, at what point does this become not an official machine? It will never become CS/Home version for the reason that it uses the AC software, but how much hardware needs to be intact for it to be official. And then go on and ask, if that's unofficial, what about the cabs that have replacement sensors not designed for DDR cabs and other modifications. What makes that any different?
16.1 years ago · Comment #7
Kyzentun
You must have at least one arrow that has at least a 20% chance of being useless until fixed for it to count as an arcade machine.
This must be a recurring bi-weekly problem.
16.1 years ago · Comment #6
This must be a recurring bi-weekly problem.
16.1 years ago · Comment #6
Mercury
Lol, I knew upping this pic would spark such a debate xD
Thing is, the arcade timings and difficulty would be exactly the same since it DOES use the legit arcade mix, unlike many scores by a certain someone who installed Bewares Extreme (aka Stepmania) on his cabinet with a JPAC and counted many AAA scores as legit. Bewares is a different kettle of fish because it could easily be set to judge 1 unlike arcade mixes running on arcade hardware (which the code cannot be changed without breaking the game).
Additionally it was done on a metal home pad hacked to work with a JAMMA interface. (The four buttons to the side are in fact the selection buttons + service menu button on a strip of veroboard)
Depending on the general consensus, I'll try and get a clearer screen pic and vid so people don't call BS on it being done on a PS1 offcamera. I deliberately included the 573 in the photo as one can clearly see.
Just clearing things up for everyone ready to call bs.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask in here (or fire me a PM)
16.1 years ago · Comment #4
Thing is, the arcade timings and difficulty would be exactly the same since it DOES use the legit arcade mix, unlike many scores by a certain someone who installed Bewares Extreme (aka Stepmania) on his cabinet with a JPAC and counted many AAA scores as legit. Bewares is a different kettle of fish because it could easily be set to judge 1 unlike arcade mixes running on arcade hardware (which the code cannot be changed without breaking the game).
Additionally it was done on a metal home pad hacked to work with a JAMMA interface. (The four buttons to the side are in fact the selection buttons + service menu button on a strip of veroboard)
Depending on the general consensus, I'll try and get a clearer screen pic and vid so people don't call BS on it being done on a PS1 offcamera. I deliberately included the 573 in the photo as one can clearly see.
Just clearing things up for everyone ready to call bs.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask in here (or fire me a PM)
16.1 years ago · Comment #4
Chi
Interesting topic: It's at the core arcade hardware with an AC mix (I spy a System 573 digital through a Supergun just to the left of the TV), if it is performed with a metal pad, personally I don't see why it wouldn't count. Surely this discussion would be better taken up as a thread in the forums, though?
It's an interesting philosophical discussion, too - what makes a DDR arcade machine a DDR arcade machine? There are several fundamental differences between a Japanese 1st mix cabinet, a Korean 3rdMIX and a SuperNOVA cabinet (not to mention between a Japanese SN cabinet and a Betson US cabinet).
For the record, my scores aren't done in "an arcade" either - they are done on my cabinet sitting in my front room. Does that count? Some might argue it's the arcade ambience that makes the difference
16.1 years ago · Comment #3
It's an interesting philosophical discussion, too - what makes a DDR arcade machine a DDR arcade machine? There are several fundamental differences between a Japanese 1st mix cabinet, a Korean 3rdMIX and a SuperNOVA cabinet (not to mention between a Japanese SN cabinet and a Betson US cabinet).
For the record, my scores aren't done in "an arcade" either - they are done on my cabinet sitting in my front room. Does that count? Some might argue it's the arcade ambience that makes the difference
16.1 years ago · Comment #3
kp_centi
1st of all this is a arcade machine but without the cabinet.
So of course he cant add this to the tracker.
Aj
Edit:
Wait is this arcade machine cause if it uses all the equipment etc then it is if not it don't count then
Aj
16.1 years ago · Comment #2
So of course he cant add this to the tracker.
Aj
Edit:
Wait is this arcade machine cause if it uses all the equipment etc then it is if not it don't count then
Aj
16.1 years ago · Comment #2
PanStyle
Do you count this on your score tracker, even it wasn't been done on the arcade ? :s
16.1 years ago · Comment #1
16.1 years ago · Comment #1