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Post #1 · Posted at 2017-09-22 02:29:55am 2 months ago

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Welcome to the first ever Simfile Tycoon! This contest is replacing Simfile Shuffle this year, and it works in a similar way. Participants submit simfile skeletons, those skeletons are given to other participants to make stepcharts for them, and lastly the participants vote on which simfile is the best. However, there is a twist, AUCTIONS! People can bid on which skeletons they want the most in order to receive a better skeleton, which will let them make a better simfile that will likely get more votes.

hypnoticmarten77 and I will be hosting the contest, and CuzcoBlocko will be helping with the sheets. Speaking of those:

This has everything you need: the rules, the schedule, and most importantly, the leaderboard. This will be updated daily, so you will need to check it every so often, especially during auctions.

One thing to note: there will be a NEW DEADLINE:
MONDAY 4 AM UTC ← Click here to convert to your time zone
13 hours earlier
This is due to different hosts living in different time zones needing to work around their schedule to have an hour available to manage the contest. We apologize for any inconvenience, but this is the only time that would work for both of us.

RULES: The rules are now listed in the spreadsheet. Please review them so you know how everything works. Anything that is listed as NEW is different from Simfile Shuffle.

However, there is one rule that several people have suggested that I'm not sure about:

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No BEMANI originals. Sorry. Find other music. Other songs featured in BEMANI games, such as licenses etc., are still allowed. Additionally, any song (even by a BEMANI artist) not previously featured in a BEMANI game (including remixes and mashups) is allowed.

One problem that might arise is people submitting BEMANI songs just because they know that they will be in demand during auction. This rule tries to level the playing field by banning BEMANI songs so that doesn't happen. However I am willing to try it out without the rule to see if auctions are still fair. Please voice your opinions about this below, and based on what you all want, the rule will either stay or go.

Skeleton submissions have started, so you can PM either me or hypnoticmarten77 your skeleton to join the contest. Please put the round name in the title of the PM.

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Please ask us any questions you may have, and we will be happy to help. Well, good luck to everyone participating! Green Grin

Post #2 · Posted at 2017-09-22 02:30:47am 2 months ago

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Sign me up please. :D

Post #3 · Posted at 2017-09-22 02:50:14am 2 months ago

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Post #4 · Posted at 2017-09-22 02:53:13am 1.9 months ago

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Post #5 · Posted at 2017-09-22 03:23:56am 1.9 months ago

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Post #6 · Posted at 2017-09-22 03:24:02am 1.9 months ago

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I'm still not a huge fan of the no BEMANI rule (as I've expressed to Cuzco via PM), although I do see how badly it could impact auctions. That being said though, it's just as easy to submit songs from BMS of Fighters/Pump It Up/DJMAX/etc. and get similar results in the auctions. Confused Since songs from the backup pile are distributed at random, I think at the very least BEMANI should be allowed there.

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Hope you like Hentai Dude and shitty vocaloid songs!

I maaay have one or two vocaloid songs lined up for submission as well. Laughing Out Loud

Post #7 · Posted at 2017-09-22 03:36:44am 1.9 months ago

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As for no BEMANI rules, I didn't agree for that rule because many people in here are pretty familiar with BEMANI songs, and that rules may impact the auction, as stated by Gameoson.
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Post #8 · Posted at 2017-09-22 04:18:30am 1.9 months ago

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It sounds like we should have a ban on all "rhythm game originals" and not just BEMANI originals. Granted, this might be tricky to enforce since not everyone might not be familiar with every single rhythm game in existence, but I think it would be the best solution nevertheless.

Either way, I don't have any skeletons that are ban-worthy yet, so I'm good. Tongue
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Post #9 · Posted at 2017-09-22 04:27:28am 1.9 months ago

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I'll consider doing this, depends on work schedule 🙏

I don't particularly care if people submit BEMANI songs or not, though it would be nice if there were less of them and more people went to different sources for the sake of finding songs to step. Either way, make an effort to step/submit things that aren't BEMANI, I feel like people lean too much on it and don't go looking around enough. There's a lot of music out there.
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Post #10 · Posted at 2017-09-22 04:39:41am 1.9 months ago

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I might sign up for this but not sure yet. Not a big fan of the no Bemani song rule as well but I get why it's there. Not like I don't have a pack that I can do Bemani songs for. Tongue
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Post #11 · Posted at 2017-09-22 04:53:56am 1.9 months ago

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As for no BEMANI rules, I didn't agree for that rule because many people in here are pretty familiar with BEMANI songs, and that rules may impact the auction, as stated by Gameoson.

However, this is exactly why the rule arose in the first place: A noticeable chunk of songs stepped originate from BEMANI, and people (in chatrooms) have expressed that select steppers are making the same file over and over again. Although personally I don't think that's true, and it doesn't always have to do with BEMANI, but... whatever.

Here's some stats for some TOI/BR/lenient (in terms of song choice) weeks of SC (There's only one, I'll add more later).

*Tournament of Immortals 6 qualifier: 9 (24%) originate from a BEMANI franchise, 5 (13%) originate from another music game (BMS/PIU/DJMAX/CYTUS/VOEZ/etc.), 24 (63%) don't originate from a rhythm game.

I'll say to keep the rule just to see how things play out (but if it's axed, that's alright). In any case I have a list of 8 songs and I've verified all of them to be free of appearing in any music game.

Post #12 · Posted at 2017-09-22 05:47:38am 1.9 months ago

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I'm kind of torn on the BEMANI rule. On one hand, the purpose of it is definitely good and could help the auction process as well as lend to more unique files. On the other hand, both songs from other rhythm games and remixes of BEMANI songs are allowed but could potentially have the same result as BEMANI songs being submitted. (That's just speculation though.)

I think that the rule should be kept for at least the first round to test waters and see if it's a rule that achieves its goals or if it doesn't end up doing much and just is an inconvenience. Maybe it could even be altered rather than just removed depending on how it goes.
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Post #17 · Posted at 2017-09-22 02:05:33pm 1.9 months ago

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As for the "no BEMANI songs" rule, I can say that I am completely against it. People might not be familiar with every BEMANI song out there, and banning all BEMANI songs just seems unfair to me for that reason...
Especially because some of the songs I planned to submit were obscure Pop'n and SDVX songs that many might not be familiar with, and people may not even know which songs are BEMANI songs right off the bat. I think it would be better if we don't use the rule because it just seems a bit unfair to me.
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Post #18 · Posted at 2017-09-22 02:26:11pm 1.9 months ago

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Ok, everybody has been added to the simfile category and the leaderboard.

So far, it's looking like the first round will be a free round, so BEMANI songs will be allowed, just to test how things go. From there, we will make a final decision on the rule.

Post #19 · Posted at 2017-09-22 02:26:39pm 1.9 months ago

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Unfortunately, I am unable to join this project. But I do admit that it's interesting. A definite shake up from the admittedly stagnated usual contests.

The "No BEMANI" rule is one I can't help but applaud you on. Didn't think you would actually go for it, but I'm glad you did. There's an infinite world of music out there and watching people sequester themselves to such a limited selection of songs not only hurts from a simfile standpoint (getting the same simfiles for the same songs from the same sources gets stale very quickly), but it also hurts from a musical enjoyment standpoint. Step out of your comfort zone. Embrace something new. There's more to life than BEMANI. I can look through my personal music collection and find dozens/hundreds of songs that would be great to try putting steps to. And that's just a small collection of 20000+ songs. There's billions of songs in the world, and an almost infinite level of possibilities.

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