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Post #1 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 09:27:39am Hace 16.4 años

Offline amorite
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Guys, this might be the most ridiculous thing I've heard in my life.

Harmonix has sued Konami over patent infringements because of ROCK REVOLUTION. I'm not sure whether to be surprised or not...

Quote: Bloomberg.com
Feb. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Viacom Inc. and its Harmonix studio sued Konami Corp., claiming the Japanese company’s “Rock Revolution” game violates a patent for game controllers that simulate musical instruments.

The Viacom patent, issued Dec. 2, claims it is an improvement of earlier video-game controllers that emulate musical instruments, and cites the Beatmania series of games by Konami as an example of the older inventions.

Konami sued Harmonix and New York-based Viacom in July, claiming “Rock Band” infringes two of its patents for simulating musical instruments. Viacom is seeking to have that case transferred from a federal court in Marshall, Texas, to the one in Boston since Harmonix is based in nearby Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Konami American depositary receipts, each representing one ordinary share, fell 37 cents, or 2.2 percent, to $16.23 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. They have lost 37 percent of their value since the beginning of the year. Viacom’s Class B shares rose 66 cents to $16.29 on the NYSE and have dropped 15 percent this year.
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Discuss? I really can't believe this happened, hope it doesn't go through after all, cause if feels like we're just going in circles now. OBJECTION!
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Post #2 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 09:30:29am Hace 16.4 años

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Wow, this is rather ridiculous, it's not as if Rock Revolution is a huge threat to Rock Band in the same manner as Guitar Hero to GuitarFreaks... Annoyed

Post #3 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 09:35:10am Hace 16.4 años

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Post #4 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 09:35:50am Hace 16.4 años

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I thought Konami was suing Harmonix lol.

Post #5 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 09:39:19am Hace 16.4 años

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I thought Konami was suing Harmonix lol.

They did, I'm pretty sure it hasn't gone anywhere yet. Seriously, do you just have to make a good (or in this case otherwise) rhythm game to be sued these days? D:
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Post #6 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 09:41:54am Hace 16.4 años

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So, is this a countersuit to Konami's suit, or is it a completely different suit altogether?

Post #7 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 09:42:01am Hace 16.4 años

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So currently there's three lawsuits going;

KONAMI vs. Pentavision over DJ MAX.
KONAMI vs. Harmonix over Rock Band.
Harmonix vs. KONAMI over Rock Revolution.

And I predict another one for Scratch: The Ultimate DJ.

Post #8 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 10:14:16am Hace 16.4 años

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I'm confused. Doesn't Konami's patent for the Beatmania controller cover the Guitar Freaks AND the drummania controllers? Or are there three separate patents?

Post #9 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 10:16:59am Hace 16.4 años

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Apparently Harmonix is claiming that their controllers are "improvements" or something like that.

Post #10 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 10:17:02am Hace 16.4 años

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Considering the fact that Konami made Guitar Freaks and Drummania before Rock Band was ever created, this doesn't make any sense.

Post #11 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 10:20:58am Hace 16.4 años

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Improvements? I'd say it's the same thing!

Guitar - Hold button and strum, no change there.
Drum - Hit the pad, no change there.

Post #12 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 10:22:10am Hace 16.4 años

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Yeah really, Konami should be the only one allowed to sue as they were the first to give birth to the Guitar and Drum simulation games same for the Dance and DJ... How can a company come to sue Konami... Are they serious?

Post #13 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 10:22:38am Hace 16.4 años

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Quote: piepiepie75
Apparently Harmonix is claiming that their controllers are "improvements" or something like that.

Guitar: Maybe...

Drums: AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

This is obviously a big failsuit in the making.

Post #14 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 10:23:05am Hace 16.4 años

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Wow these companies really need to chill the heck out. The competition really isn't that fierce, it's not like every 1st person shooting game out there is sueing each other. Most people buy/play a wide range of rhythm games anyways, and variety is always good.

[quote=amorite]

[quote=Bloomberg.com]
The Viacom patent, issued Dec. 2, claims it is an improvement of earlier video-game controllers that emulate musical instruments, and cites the Beatmania series of games by Konami as an example of the older inventions.

[/quote]

An "improvement" to earlier video-game controllers eh? So that's their way of saying they plagarized?

Post #15 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 10:38:01am Hace 16.4 años

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KONAMI will be sued!

Now come on, this is just silly, Harmonix.
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Post #16 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 10:50:35am Hace 16.4 años

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Post #17 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 10:53:48am Hace 16.4 años

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I can't help but think:

Harmonix = I steal your ideas then sue you for it! Dead

Post #18 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 11:10:55am Hace 16.4 años

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To think Rock Band would be a serious competitor is a lofty goal for Konami. They should have known (and probably did) that they were copying a popular franchise and that their own would fizzle out. It's nothing to cry about if Harmonix wins this case.
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Post #19 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 11:13:15am Hace 16.4 años

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It's nothing to cry about if Harmonix wins this case.

True, but seriously, I highly doubt they will win.

Post #20 · Publicado en 2009-02-13 11:22:18am Hace 16.4 años

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I bet Konami's gonna win, mainly because they've made DDR, IIDX, DM, and GF, all before Guitar Hero, Rock Band, DJ Hero, and Dance Hero (which I've never really seen...).
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