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Post #8361 · Posted at 2018-10-17 03:55:03pm 6.9 years ago

Offline xXMokou98Xx
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Good to see at least one of the several thousand fan remixes of MAX 300 finally made it to an official arcade release. Would have personally gone with 1, 2, 3, 4, MAX300 but this is fine too.

APPEND: hey, why does this need a Challenge chart? It's already a hard 18, you do realize the only logical progression that could come out of this is either a 19 or 20, and neither of those are good?

You're purposefully rooting for a piss poor quality chart you'll never try.
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Post #8362 · Posted at 2018-10-17 05:58:45pm 6.9 years ago

Offline Vito
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Quote: xXMokou98Xx

APPEND: hey, why does this need a Challenge chart?

Why not? If you don't want to play a hard challenge chart, just don't play it

Post #8363 · Posted at 2018-10-17 06:15:38pm 6.9 years ago

Offline xXMokou98Xx
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Why not?
I just said why not

Quote: the part of my post where I specifically stated why not
the only logical progression that could come out of this is either a 19 or 20, and neither of those are good
there's where I said why not

None of you would play the Challenge chart anyway, you just want to see Chris play it.
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Post #8364 · Posted at 2018-10-17 06:23:27pm 6.9 years ago

Offline akio
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Quote: xXMokou98Xx
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Why not?
I just said why not

Quote: the part of my post where I specifically stated why not
the only logical progression that could come out of this is either a 19 or 20, and neither of those are good
there's where I said why not

None of you would play the Challenge chart anyway, you just want to see Chris play it.

This. Not every goddamn song in this game needs a challenge chart. You "GIB ME 20 PLS" folks did the same shit when Prey got released. Chill the fuck out and enjoy what we have.
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Post #8365 · Posted at 2018-10-17 06:27:43pm 6.9 years ago

Offline Spirit of Nightmare
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I respectfully disagree. While I wouldn't necessarily call for lvl 20 for either Prey or MAX 360 (for example), that extra challenge does make those songs stand out more, especially as true boss songs. Hell, when I listen to them I hear that there is room for something beyond what the Heavy chart gives us.

And would no one really play the Challenge charts anyway? I beg to differ on that part. Even if we're not on Iamchris4life-level, I'm pretty certain that those charts still get played a lot among those of us who have the songs in question on our Stepmanias. Either that, or one creates a chart on their own to compensate.

That's just my stance on it, though
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Post #8366 · Posted at 2018-10-17 06:56:06pm 6.9 years ago

Offline PixelAndy
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MAX 360.

HOLY SHIT.

This one's by far my favourite song of the event so far.

BUT THE ESP CHART THOUGH. 888 NOTES. (AND IT LOOKS GOOD[???])
W H A T

Post #8367 · Posted at 2018-10-17 07:00:16pm 6.9 years ago

Offline Mr.Music
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See, the thing is, these songs are made for DDR A, to be played on pad, not stepmania. If you want a 19 or 20, go make your own with the editor or download someones simfiles.
DDR A has added more songs on each difficulty in the 14-18 range than any other DDR game. We've gotten 2 Standard 15s, 6 Standard 14s, and now 3 Heavy 18s, something that has been very rare over the years. It's clear that they're working on increasing difficulty, but not every boss song nees a 19 or 20. Like mokou said, very few people could clear it, and those of us that can don't particularly want to. A majority of the people that want more 19s and 20s in the official games would end up playing the lower difficulties anyway.

Post #8368 · Posted at 2018-10-17 07:09:55pm 6.9 years ago

Offline PixelAndy
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Ok, now that I've stopped freaking out, I'll give my opinion on this.

I'm just extremely neutral about a Challenge20 chart.
Like, sure, a Challenge chart does make a song more...special, and I can confirm that I really like playing Lvl. 18-19 songs on Stepmania, but...

I fear that a Challenge19 or 20 for this would just feel forced and wouldn't be fun to play at all. (Plus, if I ever get to play a 20, it's gonna be on keyboard. There's no way I'm ever gonna do something like that on foot.)

Anyway, I think the 20's gonna happen someday.
But I'm not sure that someday should be now.

Post #8369 · Posted at 2018-10-17 07:24:02pm 6.9 years ago

Offline Oni-91
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I can't even clear 18s consistently. So my opinion on whether or not we should have a 20 is pretty easy to ignore tbh

It's not like anyone in the UK is going to fucking play it.
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Post #8370 · Posted at 2018-10-17 07:46:13pm 6.9 years ago

Offline Arctic Wolves
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Next week's anniversary song is gonna have to move some mountains to not feel anticlimactic after MAX 360. How do you out-meme this?

Their only choice will be AFTER THE GAME OF LOVE.
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Post #8371 · Posted at 2018-10-17 08:31:06pm 6.9 years ago

Offline akio
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PARANOIA
MAX
DIRTY MIX
20TH ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL

But it's really just the SMM-Special chart from DDR X JP CS
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Post #8372 · Posted at 2018-10-17 08:45:41pm 6.9 years ago

Offline 500MASTER
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I want the last song of the event to be the debut of MONEY, with no modifications to its location test graphics or stepcharts.
Just 'cause.

Post #8373 · Posted at 2018-10-17 09:09:38pm 6.9 years ago

Offline L33tAliceIp
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Post #8374 · Posted at 2018-10-17 09:30:51pm 6.9 years ago

Offline Bouncin'Around
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Max 360Challenge might not be the 20 we've been waiting for. I mean yeah that's incredibly difficult, but why would they release the big bomb early when there's more to come? During the big events, they release "easy stuff" before releasing the "hardcore stuff." MAX 360 looks more like a sign of things to come and seems to be Konami's new devilish chart (get it, 888 is Japan's number of the devil)

Plus I think Prey should not have a challenge chart. Although I can't exactly disagree against a non-gimmicky 19 chart, and would love to see how tough it would be.

And I play Stepmania on my phone, does anyone else do that or am I the odd one?
It's like an awesome radio, you cannot see, but you can feel it.

Post #8375 · Posted at 2018-10-17 10:05:14pm 6.9 years ago

Offline DigitalBasic
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Hot take: MAX 360 (and many other DDR A songs) already have Challenge charts.

Just move Basic, Difficult, and Expert up one notch.

Post #8376 · Posted at 2018-10-17 10:07:39pm 6.9 years ago

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Why stop there? Why not ALL unreleased DDR songs?
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Still waiting for this...



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Post #8377 · Posted at 2018-10-17 11:57:06pm 6.9 years ago

Offline Dogman1227
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There' gonna be NO 20 this game, for any of these songs, so people can just let the fuck go on that matter. It's already been clearly explained why, beyond KONAMI straight out stating they have no plans for a 20, and that's because no one will play it, and there aren't enough players to play it. There is only double digits of players who could possibly play a 19, let alone a 20,, and even less to pass it. The only real reasonable 19 made to this date is EGOISM 440, with ENDYMION a close second.

Now, in regards to MAX 360 or Prey getting a 19...Prey not so likely as it has nothing the Heavy chart already does well enough to add difficulty, without going absurd, and using ridiculous gimics. Plus that would most likely mean they would have ot do a AfA styled chart for Challenge and make the BPM different for it alone. MAX 360 however...I'm getting the impression they went a little reserved...and honestly, it's a MAX song. It should have one by principle. But I won't be surprised if it doesn't get one.

(tl;dr: No, no 20's can reasonably happen, and if a Challenge chart is to happen to any song, it's MAX 360.)
*insert crap bemani joke here*

Post #8378 · Posted at 2018-10-18 12:31:54am 6.9 years ago

Offline Burtzman
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Quote: DigitalBasic
Hot take: MAX 360 (and many other DDR A songs) already have Challenge charts.

Just move Basic, Difficult, and Expert up one notch.

Don't stop at just songs from Ace. ÆTHER and Dopamine come to mind.

Post #8379 · Posted at 2018-10-18 01:22:30am 6.9 years ago

Offline Sigrev2
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I knew you were all waiting for my opinion on the new song. And I'll have you know that I think it's a bop

Post #8380 · Posted at 2018-10-18 01:40:21am 6.9 years ago

Offline RevAddict5
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I think MAX 360's charts are fine as is, but I'm really curious about what a challenge chart for it would look like. Not saying it needs one, but a song with 888 notes in the expert chart seems like it'd make for an interesting challenge chart.

what if it's a lower difficulty shock arrow chart

Also I think the song itself is okay. Angry vibes from it though
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