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Post #6681 · Posted at 2018-04-27 05:16:48pm 7.2 years ago

Offline amorite
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"_sessu#0802"

Last updated: 2018-04-27 05:20pm
The amount of whining in this thread is incredible.

First of all, the event lasted for 10 months. It only involved two new songs, both of which are going to be unlocked soon anyway. If you couldn't manage to complete the event in 10 months, then guess what? It wasn't intended for you. There are dozens of other extra savior songs that you could enjoy in the meantime.

Second, you didn't have to do anything special to unlock ENDYMION. Unlike Replicant-D-Ignition or other previous events, all you had to do was make it to the extra stage enough times to earn points to progress in Rinon's Adventure. You didn't have to play specific songs. You didn't even have to play hard songs. If you played often enough, then you could have gotten there eventually.

Third, if you didn't have the time, motivation, or money to complete the event, all you had to do was find a friend to play Versus with. If one player completed the event, both players had access to all of the Extra Exclusive songs as well as ENDYMION. Perhaps try talking with the other people around you at the arcade instead of sitting and complaining on the internet all day? jfc

The tldr of this thread is basically "I don't spend the money to support DDR A, but I still want Konami to treat me like their #1 players and let me play their hardest songs"
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Post #6682 · Posted at 2018-04-27 05:21:07pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
1) Maybe if enough people repeat "IT'S JUST TWO SONGSSSSSSSSSSS" enough it'll start to become a relevant argument against the event being shit

2) Yes, and? That's... kind of a bad thing? Instead of doing special requirements, you just mindlessly grind away. That's the point.

3) Everyone pull out their imaginary CHRS4LFE and just play with them guys it's so easy

4) I didn't know asking for a good unlock method so that good players could access songs faster than people who just happen to be rich and not have anything to do other than play DDR was asking to be treated like the #1 player. Cute of you to say, though. Really does show how hard some people will dickride.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #6683 · Posted at 2018-04-27 05:24:02pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Mr.Music
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Quote: Quickman
3) Everyone pull out their imaginary CHRS4LFE and just play with them guys it's so easy

Actually literally any regular at D&B or round1 will have it unlocked. So if you don't have it unlocked, it's fairly likely that someone else will and you'll get to play it.

Post #6684 · Posted at 2018-04-27 05:25:48pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
Yes, now that we are ten months in, most regular players will have the songs. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. The fact that it took ten months is a pisstake.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #6685 · Posted at 2018-04-27 05:30:35pm 7.2 years ago

Offline amorite
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"_sessu#0802"
I'm sorry you're not rich enough to play an arcade game once every few weeks. Have you tried Stepmania? It's free and has a lot of neat songs!
Check out my simfiles:
Pulsemix 1st Style (Currently being remastered)
Pulsemix 2nd Style (Complete, 25 songs)
Pulsemix 3rd Style (Ongoing, 19 songs)

Post #6686 · Posted at 2018-04-27 05:32:33pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
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Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #6687 · Posted at 2018-04-27 05:41:16pm 7.2 years ago

Offline akio
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Didn't mean to start a thing guys. Sorry.

I'll admit that I'm spoiled as fuck. I have a job that allows me to have disposable income to waste on Japanese dancing games, a car to get to them to play, and I live in Chicago. There are 4 Ace machines within a 45 minute drive of me, and all of the locals here are pretty decent so it's basically extra stage every game. I cannot relate to any of your frustrations.

Guess I'll check my DDR privilege.
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Post #6688 · Posted at 2018-04-27 05:41:26pm 7.2 years ago

Offline amorite
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"_sessu#0802"

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Contrarian views aside, I do agree this is a pretty lame and underwhelming end to DDR A. Most of Konami's other rhythm games see much more frequent updates and have more interesting progression systems. All we get are occasional crossovers and endless vocaloid and tokimeki idol songs. When is the last time we got a new, non-idol Konami original song?

Edit: Sorry, I was also probably being a dick in my last post
Check out my simfiles:
Pulsemix 1st Style (Currently being remastered)
Pulsemix 2nd Style (Complete, 25 songs)
Pulsemix 3rd Style (Ongoing, 19 songs)

Post #6689 · Posted at 2018-04-27 05:43:16pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Dancefreak
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I’m not 100% sure why you are personally so bothered anyway quickman, yeah it sucks it’s a long grind if you can’t afford it and have nobody to go in on it with but as someone in the UK, you won’t even have a local machine to play on and even if you did it won’t have e amuse, surely that should bother you significantly more? I’d just be happy as I said previously to get to play the game again full stop considering I got to play it once at LV when it was being tested and that was about it.

Post #6690 · Posted at 2018-04-27 05:45:14pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
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as someone in the UK, you won’t even have a local machine to play on and even if you did it won’t have e amuse, surely that should bother you significantly more?

It does.
Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #6691 · Posted at 2018-04-27 06:04:10pm 7.2 years ago

Offline HIT THE KEY
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Quote: amorite
Contrarian views aside, I do agree this is a pretty lame and underwhelming end to DDR A. Most of Konami's other rhythm games see much more frequent updates and have more interesting progression systems. All we get are occasional crossovers and endless vocaloid and tokimeki idol songs. When is the last time we got a new, non-idol Konami original song?

Edit: Sorry, I was also probably being a dick in my last post

Not that I really want to get involved in this mess, but I don't think this is the "end to DDR A" just yet. We'll see though. And yeah, the last new, non-idol KO's were A4A and Endymion themselves.

Post #6692 · Posted at 2018-04-27 06:37:20pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Cardia
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My biggest issue with the whole Endy/A4A thing is that i got bored with it pretty quickly. I actually unlocked them pretty early on. It just got boring playing them over and over and while i actually didn't mind the Idol songs at all (the Heavy chart for Strawberry Chu Chu slaps) or the two crossovers we got for Valentine's Day, it wasn't enough to make me not bored of the two songs.

The whole "but there's 300 new songs!!!" argument works for the whole "people throwing hissy fits over not getting annoying anime and 2hu songs" debacle; it's irrelevant when it comes to extra stage songs that were locked way longer than they really should have been.

Post #6693 · Posted at 2018-04-27 06:41:06pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Felixor_93
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Quote: PureBlue
My biggest issue with the whole Endy/A4A thing is that i got bored with it pretty quickly. I actually unlocked them pretty early on. It just got boring playing them over and over and while i actually didn't mind the Idol songs at all (the Heavy chart for Strawberry Chu Chu slaps) or the two crossovers we got for Valentine's Day, it wasn't enough to make me not bored of the two songs.
This is exactly my point as well.
Even IF they do as you told by unlocking both Endy and A4A after you access it rightaway, what are you going to do afterwards?

I mean if you want to compare with other rhythm game, look at how Pump It Up Prime 2 works:
1) They only update their songlist and quest zone (with no extra special song to messed around with)
2) You need to unlock some of the chart by playing its lower level and buy them with the points you get each play
3) The only special stuff you can get and customize are limited to :
- Avatar with bonus EXP (which you use that points to buy it)
- Extra chart by completing a set of mission and its requirements (you need to play and clear that song 3 times to access it) Which is just a different take of the song from different stepcharter
- Custom chart edit that you can make yourself
- Custom music train (a set of either 4 songs, 3 remixes, or 2 full song) which gets you NOTHING
- Listing your favorite song for easy access

And THATS IT
Although to be fair, the good thing about PIU is they have a monthly update so there's always new songs to get excited about

But I'd much prefer play DDR than PIU because:
1) It enticed me to play more and sharpen my old skills (DDR in Indonesia was dead after DDR X3, there's even only 3 cabs available with only 2 of them are unlocked, and it isn't even in the same city as mine) (I had to deal with Betson X2 for a long time)
2) I could catch up with all the missing content from DDR 2013 until now (although I'm sad that I can't play my favorite song because it was removed before DDR came here)
3) With their most up-to-date rival system, I'd be easily heated to beat their scores (unlike PIU where their Region and World best system are mostly broken)
4) I FINALLY BE ABLE TO PLAY DDR AGAIN AFTER ALMOST 8 YEARS

Sure I sometimes feel discouraged by how much credits I need to spend just to play Endy or even accessing A4A, but with those 4 reasons alone I am more than happy to keep playing DDR.
I simply chose to enjoy the unlocking process rather than complaining about their "grinding system" because my main objective isn't just playing those 2 songs.

Wow, sorry for making a very long post~
Thank you if you guys reading till the end Very Happy

Post #6694 · Posted at 2018-04-27 08:21:06pm 7.2 years ago

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Quote: amorite
Third, if you didn't have the time, motivation, or money to complete the event, all you had to do was find a friend to play Versus with. If one player completed the event, both players had access to all of the Extra Exclusive songs as well as ENDYMION.

I'm not understanding how this justifies it and doesn't paint it even further in a bad light that you need such a shitty work around

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Perhaps try talking with the other people around you at the arcade instead of sitting and complaining on the internet all day? jfc

what is your fucking damage dude lol

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so if you're not foaming at the mouth with pure hatred for Konami, you're "dicksucking" them? Roll Eyes

If you had any experience over the past decade of how konami is as a business you would understand fully why so many people fucking detest them
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Post #6695 · Posted at 2018-04-27 09:40:24pm 7.2 years ago

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Quote: amorite
Third, if you didn't have the time, motivation, or money to complete the event, all you had to do was find a friend to play Versus with. If one player completed the event, both players had access to all of the Extra Exclusive songs as well as ENDYMION.

I'm not understanding how this justifies it and doesn't paint it even further in a bad light that you need such a shitty work around

Quote
Perhaps try talking with the other people around you at the arcade instead of sitting and complaining on the internet all day? jfc

what is your fucking damage dude lol

Quote: gotmilk0112
so if you're not foaming at the mouth with pure hatred for Konami, you're "dicksucking" them? Roll Eyes

If you had any experience over the past decade of how konami is as a business you would understand fully why so many people fucking detest them


It's not a shitty workaround to play with other human beings lmao. How old are you?
Quote: MENDES
The year is 20XX, everyone dances to TAS levels of perfection. because of this matches are solely decided by how little baby powder the individual player uses

Post #6696 · Posted at 2018-04-27 09:50:33pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
what do you mean gamers are an introverted group

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Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #6697 · Posted at 2018-04-27 10:17:12pm 7.2 years ago

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There's literally nothing wrong with wanting a more sensible unlock method that doesn't drain your wallet as fast as it does your stamina.

Sure, RINON'S ADVENTURE didn't demand you play any specific song to get through it. But you had to play FOREVER AND EVER before you got anywhere. Roughly two hours of gameplay all within the same day and there's a queue of people waiting to play , didn't manage it all today? Too bad, try again tomorrow, and the next day. Oh, you did it? Congrats, now you get to play ENDYMION, the hottest song on the mar-and you failed, HEAT POWER is gone, start from zero, do every single bit of that over again. Hope you saw enough of ENDYMIONN to get an idea of what comes next, just kidding of course you didn't because it changes so much throughout the song, you will be playing this shit for ages to come. Oh, and there's ANOTHER song afterwards that does the same shit.

It was a nigh endless grind of an event that resulted in a song that took MONTHS before a single clear on any ENDYMION chart. That's not fun, not entertaining, not remotely enjoyable, that's insanity. Only the DDR A Thread would enjoy this, fitting because we're discussing this here.
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Post #6698 · Posted at 2018-04-27 10:19:02pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
Let's not forget that literally only one person cleared ENDYMION CSP under these conditions which y'all are saying were fine

And he did it just because he MASHED the ending.
Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #6699 · Posted at 2018-04-27 11:19:38pm 7.2 years ago

Offline akio
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Almost as if it's a boss song or something. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Quote: MENDES
The year is 20XX, everyone dances to TAS levels of perfection. because of this matches are solely decided by how little baby powder the individual player uses

Post #6700 · Posted at 2018-04-27 11:20:59pm 7.2 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
it's a boss song so there should be no one who ever passes it legitimately until the conditions are weakened after nearly a year
Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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