Post #421 · Posted at 2020-06-21 06:42:40pm 4.9 years ago
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Experiment with brackets! They're rather rare in ZIv meta, but using brackets can help you reach the jump quota while using them in places where traditional jumps may not work.
Lmao I was just about to ask about this since it's technically not played by jumping. Guess I know how my chart will go.
Post #422 · Posted at 2020-06-21 06:56:22pm 4.9 years ago

- Uploaded a BG video. If you would like to have it, it's there, all for you (hehe). Just drop it in the song folder if you already downloaded it, or if you download the pack since it's not in there.
Post #423 · Posted at 2020-06-21 06:59:47pm 4.9 years ago
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Question:
You said that Shock Arrows count as a jump too. So...

Is this 1 jump, or 2?
You said that Shock Arrows count as a jump too. So...

Is this 1 jump, or 2?
Post #424 · Posted at 2020-06-21 07:02:03pm 4.9 years ago
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- Alternate jumps and mine rows (shock arrows). This sequence (seen in charts like Ishtar CSP) will increase your jump count dramatically.
Your example would be two jumps, Haley.
Post #425 · Posted at 2020-06-21 07:28:04pm 4.9 years ago
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Group 1:
about:blank, Asgoods, Astroman129, firejack, FoRCeDNaTuRe, Gameoson, HaleyHalcyon, HealingDMax300, hooky, lrxevan, Loodee, mf32892, OrangeRight, PenTA_ Peterrw9000, Pie-kun, Rock Disband, shortysmnm2010, SomethingRandom, SupremeX, Telperion, Torpak, VanEden, vonafroa

Group 2:
chewi, CLOUDIO, Czery, Daffa212162, djVERTICAI, DDRDAIKENKAI, DigitalBasic, hypnoticmarten77, K-Step, ledgam3r1279, mathio214, ohaiimian, Oni-91, Pandemonium X, Pika-Vix, Silver Spirit, talkion, tamtamino, The Legendary DJXYZ, TonyAkita, tsugaru7reveng, vincentw, _|/-\43D
Fake I.D. [Asgoods] - Couldn't get the audio to load. If anyone can get it to work, you can still vote for it.
R.R.R [about:blank] - ZIP is missing .sm file.
Get Your Wish [Czery] - Custom ZIP is improperly structured, as well as missing .sm file. There is an .ssc file.
Post #426 · Posted at 2020-06-21 07:36:57pm 4.9 years ago
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Clarification question on the voting: do we distribute 15 points per group, or per round? It looks like from the spreadsheet we vote for each group independently of one another, wanted to double check.
Post #427 · Posted at 2020-06-21 07:37:57pm 4.9 years ago
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Clarification question on the voting: do we distribute 15 points per group, or per round? It looks like from the spreadsheet we vote for each group independently of one another, wanted to double check.
You only vote for the group in which your simfile is a part. Since you are in group A, you distribute your 15 points among group A. You do not vote for anything from group B.
I am also part of group A so I'll take your points
Post #428 · Posted at 2020-06-21 07:43:56pm 4.9 years ago
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Group 2 note already:
Get Your Wish's custom zip has a messed up folder structure, so it doesn't show up in SM at first.
Edit:
Group 1:
R.R.R just has graphics, no audio or sm files.
Edit 2: lol already posted. Fake ID shows up for me fine, though the artist tag is Unknown artist and challenge is rated a 1.
Get Your Wish's custom zip has a messed up folder structure, so it doesn't show up in SM at first.
Edit:
Group 1:
R.R.R just has graphics, no audio or sm files.
Edit 2: lol already posted. Fake ID shows up for me fine, though the artist tag is Unknown artist and challenge is rated a 1.
Post #429 · Posted at 2020-06-21 08:05:33pm 4.9 years ago
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Group 2 note already:
Get Your Wish's custom zip has a messed up folder structure, so it doesn't show up in SM at first.
Get Your Wish's custom zip has a messed up folder structure, so it doesn't show up in SM at first.
Thanks for notification. I reuploaded a zip with both the sm & ssc.
This is what happens when you have multiple versions of a file/folder floating around.

Post #430 · Posted at 2020-06-21 08:25:10pm 4.9 years ago
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Group 2 note already:
Edit 2: lol already posted. Fake ID shows up for me fine, though the artist tag is Unknown artist and challenge is rated a 1.
Edit 2: lol already posted. Fake ID shows up for me fine, though the artist tag is Unknown artist and challenge is rated a 1.
Thanks for the alert. The simfile should be edited to show correct info now.
Post #431 · Posted at 2020-06-21 10:29:37pm 4.9 years ago
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Here's some of my first impressions for Small Steps Group 2's files.
Notes:
I'm not scoring publicly for obvious reasons.
These are just my opinions.
I only played the hardest single difficulty (and if there's an edit, I played Challenge/Heavy instead).
Ah! Leah! (_|/-\43D) - don't really care for the song, it's definitely not something i would choose to step. the steps however were ok. the only thing i didn't like was the ending, it ended kinda awkwardly.
All in You (vincentw) - not really a fan of this song, either. it felt like the file was dragging on and the scroll gimmicks at the end didn't help either. the chart was ok, but i think the freeze on beat 33.500 needs to be an 1/8 longer to match the other ones.
Cave Me In (DigitalBasic) - song's alright. chart's fun too, but i thought the karaoke stepping from m7-m9 was really uncomfortable to play and didn't match the song exactly.
Dead Soul (Daffa212162) - thought this was really good, i have no complaints.
Epic (Pika-Vix) - cute song. feels more like a 15 to me. didnt like the 16th run at the beginning. other than that, it was ok.
F/E/D/R (I Don't Care) (TonyAkita) - ok song. liked the chart, i don't have really anything else to say about it.
Fly you to the star (tsugaru7reveng) - video's a tiny bit offsync, maybe? love the song and your steps were really fun. i also appreciate that you changed it up during the ending.
Gate One (ledgam3r1279) - i liked the song. the chart was great except for beat 338.500 which ruins the flow, imo.

Get Your Wish (Czery) - if this was the Sewerslvt remix, it wouldn't count for this week. but as far as i know it's the original so the #ARTIST tag in the sm needs to be fixed. Offsync. The steps don't go to anything as far as I can tell. lots of awkward hands and rolls were in the chart. didn't care for the scroll gimmicks. steps go on for too long.
Notes:
I'm not scoring publicly for obvious reasons.
These are just my opinions.
I only played the hardest single difficulty (and if there's an edit, I played Challenge/Heavy instead).
Ah! Leah! (_|/-\43D) - don't really care for the song, it's definitely not something i would choose to step. the steps however were ok. the only thing i didn't like was the ending, it ended kinda awkwardly.
All in You (vincentw) - not really a fan of this song, either. it felt like the file was dragging on and the scroll gimmicks at the end didn't help either. the chart was ok, but i think the freeze on beat 33.500 needs to be an 1/8 longer to match the other ones.
Cave Me In (DigitalBasic) - song's alright. chart's fun too, but i thought the karaoke stepping from m7-m9 was really uncomfortable to play and didn't match the song exactly.
Dead Soul (Daffa212162) - thought this was really good, i have no complaints.
Epic (Pika-Vix) - cute song. feels more like a 15 to me. didnt like the 16th run at the beginning. other than that, it was ok.
F/E/D/R (I Don't Care) (TonyAkita) - ok song. liked the chart, i don't have really anything else to say about it.
Fly you to the star (tsugaru7reveng) - video's a tiny bit offsync, maybe? love the song and your steps were really fun. i also appreciate that you changed it up during the ending.
Gate One (ledgam3r1279) - i liked the song. the chart was great except for beat 338.500 which ruins the flow, imo.

Get Your Wish (Czery) - if this was the Sewerslvt remix, it wouldn't count for this week. but as far as i know it's the original so the #ARTIST tag in the sm needs to be fixed. Offsync. The steps don't go to anything as far as I can tell. lots of awkward hands and rolls were in the chart. didn't care for the scroll gimmicks. steps go on for too long.
Post #432 · Posted at 2020-06-21 11:45:18pm 4.9 years ago
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The last contest too, I'm always just kinda...there in the standings not making any impact. Hopefully I make something you guys like at least once this contest.
big moodPost #433 · Posted at 2020-06-22 12:16:21am 4.9 years ago
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Just got finished with playing through Group 2! Feedback is below (without scores, of course.)
Overall, this was another very strong week with a lot of stuff I wanted to give points to. I did my best to be fair with my judgment!
Ah! Leah! (_|/-\43D): Sync felt drifty on this, but I know that's more on the song than you. This felt just a little bit overstepped - most of the short 16th drills didn't feel like they were going to anything. The ending was kind of abrupt, too.
All in You (vincentw): This was a cute use of scroll gimmicks! They complemented the song and felt like they were there for more than just inflating the song's difficulty. Chart was also well executed.
B Who I Want 2 B feat. HATSUNE MIKU (chewi): I'd make a joke about foot alternations, but it's been drilled into the ground at this point :v This was a lot of fun! The steps fit this really well; there's really nothing to complain about here.
Cave Me In (DigitalBasic): This was enjoyable for the most part; I liked the way you charted the swing breakdown. The steps feel like they ended a little too early, though - I'd have extended the final freeze to the end of the last "cave me in".
Dead Soul (Daffa212162): This was alright, nothing really stood out as particularly glaring. However, you included the .avi on the simfile page but not in your zip.
Epic (Pika-Vix): This is definitely a 15 instead of a 14 with how jumpy it is. I normally dislike charts with lots of jumps but I thought this was okay, though I wasn't big on the 16th run at the very beginning or any of the other parts with 16th notes into jumps.
F/E/D/R (I Don't Care) (TonyAkita): This was okay, it flowed well and the steps fit the song for the most part. Some of the 16th runs were kind of overkill, though.
Fly you to the star (t7r): Cute chart overall, I had fun with it! The video wasn't in sync with the audio, though - it started slightly later than it should.
Gate one (ledgam3r1279): This was really fun! I liked the crossovers and most of the other patterns, but that one 24th note burst is Rude. Other than that, good stuff!
Get Your Wish (Czery): I like this song and I appreciate you putting in the effort to submit to this contest, but the steps felt very offsync, and some of the BPM gimmicks felt forced.
HiT! HiT! HiT! (CLOUDIO): Song isn't my cup of tea, but I really enjoyed this chart! No complaints here.
Kiss & Tell (K-Step): The BPM gimmicks really detracted from the steps for me here. it felt like the song went off-sync after one of them, but I'd have to go back and check where exactly it went bad.
Like It! (DDRDAIKENKAI): Liked It! I enjoyed how you charted the different rhythms in this song a lot.
Make It Werk (djVERTICAI): Steps were fine, but I feel like the song went on a bit too long and ended abruptly.
Now A New Day (mathio214): This is a marked improvement over your last two files! I'd have rated it an 11 instead of a 12, but that's really my only complaint. Everything was fine otherwise.
Quon (hypnoticmarten77): This was pretty good! I'd have started the second 85 BPM segment two measures earlier or later, personally - it felt kind of abrupt where it was. Very good chart otherwise, though.
Set Me Free (Pandemonium X): I enjoyed this a lot, but the last two stops kind of threw me off - I've played this twice and both times I broke combo there because I anticipate a third stop that doesn't come. That's a minor nitpick, though - it was really fun overall!
Sing For You (ohaiimian): I had a lot of fun with this one! The steps flowed very nicely. I'd have rated Challenge a 13 due to how short the cut is, but that's really all I have to say against it.
The Blue (talkion): This was alright, but I don't really have much to say about it. The thing at the end with the mines was kind of cute, though... but for some reason, my theme didn't call out that there were mines at all.
TO THE CLUB (tamtamino): This song unironically slaps and I thought the steps were cute! I feel like you could have done more with them, though... it felt like it was missing something.
Toy (Oni-91): This was a lot of fun and flowed well! No complaints here.
Yeah Oh Ahhh Oh! (The Legendary DJXYZ): I liked this, other than the stops. The first one isn't really telegraphed well - I didn't realize the mine was supposed to be the telegraph until I hit the second one, and the third went on so long that I kind of wish it was just a long freeze note instead of a stop.
All in You (vincentw): This was a cute use of scroll gimmicks! They complemented the song and felt like they were there for more than just inflating the song's difficulty. Chart was also well executed.
B Who I Want 2 B feat. HATSUNE MIKU (chewi): I'd make a joke about foot alternations, but it's been drilled into the ground at this point :v This was a lot of fun! The steps fit this really well; there's really nothing to complain about here.
Cave Me In (DigitalBasic): This was enjoyable for the most part; I liked the way you charted the swing breakdown. The steps feel like they ended a little too early, though - I'd have extended the final freeze to the end of the last "cave me in".
Dead Soul (Daffa212162): This was alright, nothing really stood out as particularly glaring. However, you included the .avi on the simfile page but not in your zip.
Epic (Pika-Vix): This is definitely a 15 instead of a 14 with how jumpy it is. I normally dislike charts with lots of jumps but I thought this was okay, though I wasn't big on the 16th run at the very beginning or any of the other parts with 16th notes into jumps.
F/E/D/R (I Don't Care) (TonyAkita): This was okay, it flowed well and the steps fit the song for the most part. Some of the 16th runs were kind of overkill, though.
Fly you to the star (t7r): Cute chart overall, I had fun with it! The video wasn't in sync with the audio, though - it started slightly later than it should.
Gate one (ledgam3r1279): This was really fun! I liked the crossovers and most of the other patterns, but that one 24th note burst is Rude. Other than that, good stuff!
Get Your Wish (Czery): I like this song and I appreciate you putting in the effort to submit to this contest, but the steps felt very offsync, and some of the BPM gimmicks felt forced.
HiT! HiT! HiT! (CLOUDIO): Song isn't my cup of tea, but I really enjoyed this chart! No complaints here.
Kiss & Tell (K-Step): The BPM gimmicks really detracted from the steps for me here. it felt like the song went off-sync after one of them, but I'd have to go back and check where exactly it went bad.
Like It! (DDRDAIKENKAI): Liked It! I enjoyed how you charted the different rhythms in this song a lot.
Make It Werk (djVERTICAI): Steps were fine, but I feel like the song went on a bit too long and ended abruptly.
Now A New Day (mathio214): This is a marked improvement over your last two files! I'd have rated it an 11 instead of a 12, but that's really my only complaint. Everything was fine otherwise.
Quon (hypnoticmarten77): This was pretty good! I'd have started the second 85 BPM segment two measures earlier or later, personally - it felt kind of abrupt where it was. Very good chart otherwise, though.
Set Me Free (Pandemonium X): I enjoyed this a lot, but the last two stops kind of threw me off - I've played this twice and both times I broke combo there because I anticipate a third stop that doesn't come. That's a minor nitpick, though - it was really fun overall!
Sing For You (ohaiimian): I had a lot of fun with this one! The steps flowed very nicely. I'd have rated Challenge a 13 due to how short the cut is, but that's really all I have to say against it.
The Blue (talkion): This was alright, but I don't really have much to say about it. The thing at the end with the mines was kind of cute, though... but for some reason, my theme didn't call out that there were mines at all.
TO THE CLUB (tamtamino): This song unironically slaps and I thought the steps were cute! I feel like you could have done more with them, though... it felt like it was missing something.
Toy (Oni-91): This was a lot of fun and flowed well! No complaints here.
Yeah Oh Ahhh Oh! (The Legendary DJXYZ): I liked this, other than the stops. The first one isn't really telegraphed well - I didn't realize the mine was supposed to be the telegraph until I hit the second one, and the third went on so long that I kind of wish it was just a long freeze note instead of a stop.
Overall, this was another very strong week with a lot of stuff I wanted to give points to. I did my best to be fair with my judgment!
Post #434 · Posted at 2020-06-22 01:23:06am 4.9 years ago
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Gate One (ledgam3r1279) - i liked the song. the chart was great except for beat 338.500 which ruins the flow, imo.
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Gate one (ledgam3r1279): This was really fun! I liked the crossovers and most of the other patterns, but that one 24th note burst is Rude. Other than that, good stuff!
I mean, it's technically correct, but I can understand why it would feel out of place with the rest of the chart. I'd be happy to change it to 16ths once it's released in my own packs.
Post #435 · Posted at 2020-06-22 02:03:05am 4.9 years ago
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I mean, it's technically correct, but I can understand why it would feel out of place with the rest of the chart. I'd be happy to change it to 16ths once it's released in my own packs.
I get that it's correct, I'm mostly just salty that it broke my full combo. 
Post #436 · Posted at 2020-06-22 02:07:54am 4.9 years ago
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Post #437 · Posted at 2020-06-22 02:50:22am 4.9 years ago
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Dead Soul (Daffa212162): This was alright, nothing really stood out as particularly glaring. However, you included the .avi on the simfile page but not in your zip.

Oh fudge me! I forgot to generate the ZIP again after I uploading my video! Should I fix this issue now (even thought the Week 3 submission deadline has been passed)?
Anyway, thanks for noticing that issue!
Post #438 · Posted at 2020-06-22 02:52:10am 4.9 years ago
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Kiss & Tell (K-Step): The BPM gimmicks really detracted from the steps for me here. it felt like the song went off-sync after one of them, but I'd have to go back and check where exactly it went bad.
Yeah, fair enough. I tried experimenting with scroll gimmicks (varying from 2 to 0 in sections b70.75-71, b152.75-153 and b184.75-185) and see if they work, and I guess it pretty much backfired. I also think it might've went off-sync when I tried to do a speed-up section at b150.5-152, and honestly, I don't know if the sync right even when I tried playtesting that section multiple times. I'll probably get rid of that speed-up section and try to fix those other problems for my own category.
On a side note, wow I didn't expect SKY's the limit to place 4th at all. And with lift notes included, on top of that. It was a pretty tough group in that week too, so thank you to those who voted for it.
Post #439 · Posted at 2020-06-22 03:01:55am 4.9 years ago
If anyone feels like changing Fly you to the star's video offset you may tweak the #BGCHANGES line to start at -0.500 instead. I won't update the file anymore since it's too late for that I guess.
Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for the feedback.
Post #440 · Posted at 2020-06-22 03:08:21am 4.9 years ago
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Epic (Pika-Vix): This is definitely a 15 instead of a 14 with how jumpy it is. I normally dislike charts with lots of jumps but I thought this was okay, though I wasn't big on the 16th run at the very beginning or any of the other parts with 16th notes into jumps.
Quote: chewi
Epic (Pika-Vix) - cute song. feels more like a 15 to me. didnt like the 16th run at the beginning. other than that, it was ok.
Responding to both critics together since they are similar in suggestions.
Yeah, I could have skipped the intro stream. The stream was reworked a few times to make it flow better and keep it in. Next time I will avoid.
I am extremely not experienced with X-Scale. Using guides to figure out what it should be. Still trying to figure it out.
I was thinking that the BPM was low enough to be able to do the 16ths into a jump.
