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Post #2801 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:15:23am 17 years ago

Offline Pandemonium X
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Quote: stmspr
heard DDR X is horrible fail, is this true?
Could be better, could be wrost.

I hope that doubles chart is not true but after the POS that's NGOChallenge, This being the real steps would not surprise me.Annoyed

Post #2802 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:20:50am 17 years ago

Offline Arctic Wolves
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How many people here actually play Double at that level? I find a lot of people are apt to comment on charts they don't actually know to play.

I'm no expert, my Double scores are pretty bad, but there's nothing terribly wrong with that chart. The stretches are a little out there, the jackhammers are definitely not my thing, but it's nowhere near the level most of the SuperNOVA2 Specials were at. I'm not an avid Double play anyway, so I don't really care, but that chart wasn't bad. Not the sort of thing I find extremely fun, but not a blight on the face of the Earth.
http://i.imgur.com/ros63.gif

Post #2803 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:28:05am 17 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Quote: Sora542
Quote: piepiepie75
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpxd1tIrTUM

Seems to be claiming that these are the real double steps.

to me those look really fun, even though I have never done double steps before.
Evidently, the step artist has never played doubles before either.
uLD with up and down on different pads doesn't actually work out that well. It's the widest turn you can be forced to do. At that speed, it'll break your combo practically every time, assuming you even stay on the pads.

Quote: Arctic Wolves
How many people here actually play Double at that level? I find a lot of people are apt to comment on charts they don't actually know to play.

I'm no expert, my Double scores are pretty bad, but there's nothing terribly wrong with that chart. The stretches are a little out there, the jackhammers are definitely not my thing, but it's nowhere near the level most of the SuperNOVA2 Specials were at. I'm not an avid Double play anyway, so I don't really care, but that chart wasn't bad. Not the sort of thing I find extremely fun, but not a blight on the face of the Earth.
Pause the video at 0:48. Prepare to eat pad as you spin wildly attempting to do those turns at speed.
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Post #2804 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:30:57am 17 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
Quote: stmspr
heard DDR X is horrible fail, is this true?

The biggest thing for me right now is the lack of BEMANI material. Currently, the only songs by (known) Bemani artists are SABER WING, by TAG, as well as Wii crossovers from NAOKI. Everything else is either licenses or commissions. Hopefully this changes when unlocks start rolling in (There's a promised Naoki feat. SMiLE.dk song that will be unlocked).

Oh, and most of the new songs on the machine were present on X US CS, so the material is months old by now.

The stepcharts are a step up from SN2 though, and several graphical changes make it cool (SCREEN FILTER, characters now do specific dances).

Post #2805 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:33:07am 17 years ago

Offline silenttype01
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"DINGDONG♥HEARTS"
Quote: Arctic Wolves
How many people here actually play Double at that level?
*raises hand* I'm one of the few here that can play at that level.

The chart isn't as retarded as it looks like since people perceive the distance between the two pads to be farther than they actually are.

However, it's not a chart that has the word "fun" in mind and it looks like it was meant to be a pain to AA and FC the song.

The pad crossovers on measure 19 is a very awkward pattern when seen but it's basically having you make a circle around the middle of the two pads.
Measures 35-36 is another case where it looks weird but isn't.

Overall, it seems to me that the guy who stepped D-Heavy of MARS WARS 3 is the same guy that stepped this chart.



....of course, assuming that this is the real X-Edit chart for Doubles.

Post #2806 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:38:57am 17 years ago

Offline amorite
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"_sessu#0802"
Quote: Kyzentun
Quote: Sora542
Quote: piepiepie75
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpxd1tIrTUM

Seems to be claiming that these are the real double steps.

to me those look really fun, even though I have never done double steps before.
Evidently, the step artist has never played doubles before either.
uLD with up and down on different pads doesn't actually work out that well. It's the widest turn you can be forced to do. At that speed, it'll break your combo practically every time, assuming you even stay on the pads.

Quote: Arctic Wolves
How many people here actually play Double at that level? I find a lot of people are apt to comment on charts they don't actually know to play.

I'm no expert, my Double scores are pretty bad, but there's nothing terribly wrong with that chart. The stretches are a little out there, the jackhammers are definitely not my thing, but it's nowhere near the level most of the SuperNOVA2 Specials were at. I'm not an avid Double play anyway, so I don't really care, but that chart wasn't bad. Not the sort of thing I find extremely fun, but not a blight on the face of the Earth.
Pause the video at 0:48. Prepare to eat pad as you spin wildly attempting to do those turns at speed.

I do play at that level, well I can do 10's (old 10's, probably 15s-16s now) ... and that chart is really bad, it doesn't look fun at all
Check out my simfiles:
Pulsemix 1st Style (Currently being remastered)
Pulsemix 2nd Style (Complete, 25 songs)
Pulsemix 3rd Style (Ongoing, 19 songs)

Post #2807 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:44:25am 17 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Quote: silenttype01
Measures 35-36 is another case where it looks weird but isn't.
I'm working on an .sm now, you can try out that wacky turn tomorrow. I fell over trying to do it at speed.

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Post #2808 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:47:11am 17 years ago

Offline silenttype01
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"DINGDONG♥HEARTS"
You know where to send it, but unfortunately for you I don't play on Fridays. You should know that by now.Tongue

Post #2809 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:47:54am 17 years ago

Offline n00b_saib0t
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"F***ing exhausted."
i think the paranoia x-special crossovers look fun, and my play level on doubles caps at determinator expert. lrn2crossover.
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Post #2810 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:54:19am 17 years ago

Offline amorite
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"_sessu#0802"
that crossover isn't too terribly awkward but it's really tough to sightread and takes a loooot of energy to move you foot from 1-U to 2-D in 1 beat.
Check out my simfiles:
Pulsemix 1st Style (Currently being remastered)
Pulsemix 2nd Style (Complete, 25 songs)
Pulsemix 3rd Style (Ongoing, 19 songs)

Post #2811 · Posted at 2009-01-02 11:59:26am 17 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Quote: silenttype01
You know where to send it, but unfortunately for you I don't play on Fridays. You should know that by now.Tongue
Well, I'll play it tomorrow, after work.
I guess the crossovers will be fun once learned, but measure 35 is going to take some serious balance to no bra.
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Post #2812 · Posted at 2009-01-02 12:00:54pm 17 years ago

Offline silenttype01
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"DINGDONG♥HEARTS"
Quote: Kyzentun
but measure 35 is going to take some serious balance to no bra.

lawl. Anyway, you don't need a bar for that section. You just need to position yourself before starting that stream.

Post #2813 · Posted at 2009-01-02 12:47:58pm 17 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Oh, and it kinda makes me think of Habanera 1 expert doubles from ITGPC. You ever play that, noob_saib0t?

Quote: silenttype01
You just need to position yourself before starting that stream.
Well, I can either have left foot on left, and right on right, and alternate feet while turning wildly, or do almost the same while facing backward? It's hard to keep balance while turning that quickly, as you well know. You might have the balance for it.
Progress: Measure 35 charted.

Paste this at the end of your existing PARANOiA .sm. I rated it 10 due to balance requirements.

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I think a lot of people, including me, have slipped into thinking of any chart that tries to be challenging in a new way as stupid or poorly done. I'm going to try to give this chart a chance, in spite of it being a paranoia chart.
silenttype01: Kyzentun is never harsh. He says it how it is.

GENERATION 24: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

Post #2814 · Posted at 2009-01-02 12:54:18pm 17 years ago

Offline Arctic Wolves
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Playing is believing; I'll give it a shot when I can.

Lots of charts I hated turned great when I played them; others I loved at a glance were awful upon playing.
http://i.imgur.com/ros63.gif

Post #2815 · Posted at 2009-01-02 12:56:25pm 17 years ago

Offline amorite
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"_sessu#0802"
Well DEGRS followed the song perfectly, the rhythm was great, except the step placement was bad..

maybe if I play it all the way through it'll seem better.
Check out my simfiles:
Pulsemix 1st Style (Currently being remastered)
Pulsemix 2nd Style (Complete, 25 songs)
Pulsemix 3rd Style (Ongoing, 19 songs)

Post #2816 · Posted at 2009-01-02 01:18:32pm 17 years ago

Offline DangerDance
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"I forgot my mantra..."
I remember in Supernova the double expert steps had a lot of twisty steps across both pads, and a lot of patterns that went away in Supernova 2 doubles (except in some Boss double charts).

Most prominent examples: Star Gate Heaven, Star Gate Heaven (Future Love Mix) and Dynamite Rave (super euro version)

On the whole, doubles steps were a little more complex in the crossovers for expert steps less than 9. (Arrabbiata, Party Lights and the ultra-fun Saber WIng, being some songs that notch up the technical factor without being annoying or random (like Synthesized which i don't get since the singles steps were really good IMHO).

Post #2817 · Posted at 2009-01-02 01:28:09pm 17 years ago

Offline silenttype01
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"DINGDONG♥HEARTS"
Dynamite Rave super euro version is like Dam Dariram Heavy in the beginning. You just have to learn it.

And the Star Gate Heaven charts are fun.

Keep in mind that they have more room to make charts for Doubles as they have 8 arrows to work with so it wouldn't be too surprising to see those "now awkward" patterns to pop up in other charts. They're experimenting with the charts and as long as they don't experiment too much in one chart, I'm fine.

Post #2818 · Posted at 2009-01-02 03:37:51pm 17 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5729428

Playing a fast song with all these mods causes some errors Tongue.

Post #2819 · Posted at 2009-01-02 03:44:32pm 17 years ago

Offline King of Light
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Haha, that ending was hilarious Laughing Hard
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/lordtoon/User%20Names/KingofLight.png

Post #2820 · Posted at 2009-01-02 03:46:04pm 17 years ago

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"F***ing exhausted."
Quote: Kyzentun
Oh, and it kinda makes me think of Habanera 1 expert doubles from ITGPC. You ever play that, noob_saib0t?

yeah, its not just from ITGPC, its on ITG2 AC, its one of my favorite charts in that game. dancing games need more charts like that. and hip hop jam expert doubles.
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