DDR 2018 Wishlist

If they hired steppers that are at least partially respected, be it for ITG, Stepmania, PIU or DDR edits I guess (I know nothing about this lol) I'd be not TOO worried regarding a 20.

If Konmai made it...

And all the charts under that 20 would suffer, and more so if they chart only singles and try to force a set of doubles.

It's like there's a whole video game to consider or something.

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I have a question for you rayword. Can you clear a 19? On a DDR A machine or pad of similar quality?

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- Romanized Song Titles
- Course Mode with EX Scoring
- Would also be great to do internet ranking again for DDR like in the past on courses, so why not?
- EX score as a play option without going into event mode
- Make something clear at the title screen that 2 players is 2 credits. Still see about 60% of casuals at D&B playing 2P swiping once and figuring out why it isn't working right. The menus are simpler since the last UI update, but still.
- Make PASELI Course options officially available for US, even if it is still a paid subscription.
- Official score tracker app. (Yeah, this will never happen)
- Do something with Doubles for KAC. Please. PLEASE.
- U1 as a selectable character
- Return of RANDOM Button
- Mondo Street revival when

"Do you play ITG" or "can you do <insert foot rating and/or high level chart here>" being the kneejerk responses to someone not liking something Konami does is getting really fucking irritating.

Well it gets really fucking irritating hearing people bitch about there not being a 20 when they're flailing their way through 15s.

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there isn't a good 19 in DDR.
nowhere in the songlist does there exist a good 19, why are we still seeking a 20 when there are no good 19s?

I swear to god, if we get a 20 before we get a 19 that is well received by the playerbase, I hope it's the worst thing imaginable hidden behind an unlock system twice as painful as what was required for ENDYMION.

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My DDR 2018 wishlist (and worthy 2,500th post): The introduction of DDR A Plus. Do it now.

Quote: SupremeX

hmm Next DDR

DDR AA The song which will have 20 << attack marvelous full combo!!

stop right there

hmm Next DDR

DDR AA The song which will have 20 << attack marvelous full combo!!

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Screw your level 20 charts. I want a DDR chart with a negative rating.

Why would you even want this?

It's not who the steppers are that's the problem. It's how Konami defined a 19 and possibly what's above it that's the problem. In all fairness, Konami did make harder charts better as of late.

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I want them to announce a 20, but it's actually a mild 12. Just to piss you guys off.

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It is true that "go play ITG" is a shit response to someone wanting a high difficulty.

But if you can't clear a 17, you shouldn't be calling for a 20. At all. People who do this, 99% of the time, just want new shit to watch FEFEMZ play instead of new shit for them to actually play.

Now where's my flashing 19

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The only 19 that's remotely bad is PRev, and that's if you think that footswitches and forcing starting several runs backwards make a chart bad automatically. Egoism and Endymion are incredibly straightforward (Egoism moreso), they're just fast. Over the Period's steps are fairly kind, the hardest part is being forced to read slow. Valkyrie Dimension is largely the same, the only difference being the beginning and end streams (which, despite the random jump to be bracketed, is not atrocious).

Yall act like every 19 is DEGRS set to 1.2 rate or something. The only thing wrong with the 19s is that they're hard and there's not enough of them. The only thing that should be stopping a 20 is the lack of 19s.

If you think Para Revo is the only bad 19 I don't know what to tell you aside from I feel bad how conditioned people are to accept Konami-quality charts as good

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Again, I'm gonna ask this question, but have you ever played a 19?

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The is objectively wrong, right away I'm struggling to take the remainder of this defense for shoddy stepcharting seriously.

No, but it doesn't help, and the overall poor patterning does not help in this case either. This is somehow not the worst 19, and yet it still manages to be a very flawed chart structurally.

Egoism I would argue is the most competent 19, even if the gimmicks do make it a chore. I can agree here that for the most part it's speed, but same with PRev, there's still very questionable patterning and I can't give them a pass just because they are better quality than the rest.

I want to play these versions of OTP and VD where the steps are kind and everything makes sense, that sounds like a consensus good 19 to me. I assume you refer to some kind of early versions or maybe edits, because you're not talking about the current charts in DDR that are tangled messes of steps thrown around at times going to nothing, jumps inappropriately tossed into streams to inflate difficulty, 12ths/24ths included with disregard for chart flow, jumps included with disregard for chart flow, I can keep going if need be. You put PRev at the bottom of the 19s in terms of quality but will say that VD isn't that bad, fucking hell mate.
Send me a link of those good charts you were talking about.


I can fix that bolded statement for you: The only thing wrong with the 19s is that we don't have enough quality ones to help properly bridge twoards a 20. The current crop is littered with very bad patterning, and if we get more 19s in the future that don't improve upon what we have now, then a 20 is useless, because you haven't established what coherent 19s look like since you lack a sizeable amount of them. I'll give you EGOISM 440 and nothing more. I want to see better than what EGOISM has to offer, then I'll humor the idea of a 20.

Source: I played all of these, what the fuck are you talking about 😂

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For all the naysayers (xXMakou98Xx, Quickman, Mr. Music, whoever else): What's a good 19 to you? What would that look like?

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Egoism 440 is the only passable one.

In order for a good 19 to happen they really need to have a song around 2:20 or even longer. You can't stick 800-900 arrows in 120 seconds without it being a mess (at least, Konami can't).

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Well, I'd like to see something that isn't just gimmicks and arrow vomit.

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