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Post #1 · Posted at 2009-02-13 09:27:39am 16.2 years ago

Offline amorite
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Guys, this might be the most ridiculous thing I've heard in my life.

Harmonix has sued Konami over patent infringements because of ROCK REVOLUTION. I'm not sure whether to be surprised or not...

Quote: Bloomberg.com
Feb. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Viacom Inc. and its Harmonix studio sued Konami Corp., claiming the Japanese company’s “Rock Revolution” game violates a patent for game controllers that simulate musical instruments.

The Viacom patent, issued Dec. 2, claims it is an improvement of earlier video-game controllers that emulate musical instruments, and cites the Beatmania series of games by Konami as an example of the older inventions.

Konami sued Harmonix and New York-based Viacom in July, claiming “Rock Band” infringes two of its patents for simulating musical instruments. Viacom is seeking to have that case transferred from a federal court in Marshall, Texas, to the one in Boston since Harmonix is based in nearby Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Konami American depositary receipts, each representing one ordinary share, fell 37 cents, or 2.2 percent, to $16.23 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. They have lost 37 percent of their value since the beginning of the year. Viacom’s Class B shares rose 66 cents to $16.29 on the NYSE and have dropped 15 percent this year.
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Discuss? I really can't believe this happened, hope it doesn't go through after all, cause if feels like we're just going in circles now. OBJECTION!
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Post #2 · Posted at 2009-02-13 09:30:29am 16.2 years ago

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Wow, this is rather ridiculous, it's not as if Rock Revolution is a huge threat to Rock Band in the same manner as Guitar Hero to GuitarFreaks... Annoyed

Post #3 · Posted at 2009-02-13 09:35:10am 16.2 years ago

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Post #4 · Posted at 2009-02-13 09:35:50am 16.2 years ago

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I thought Konami was suing Harmonix lol.

Post #5 · Posted at 2009-02-13 09:39:19am 16.2 years ago

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I thought Konami was suing Harmonix lol.

They did, I'm pretty sure it hasn't gone anywhere yet. Seriously, do you just have to make a good (or in this case otherwise) rhythm game to be sued these days? D:
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Post #6 · Posted at 2009-02-13 09:41:54am 16.2 years ago

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So, is this a countersuit to Konami's suit, or is it a completely different suit altogether?

Post #7 · Posted at 2009-02-13 09:42:01am 16.2 years ago

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So currently there's three lawsuits going;

KONAMI vs. Pentavision over DJ MAX.
KONAMI vs. Harmonix over Rock Band.
Harmonix vs. KONAMI over Rock Revolution.

And I predict another one for Scratch: The Ultimate DJ.

Post #8 · Posted at 2009-02-13 10:14:16am 16.2 years ago

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I'm confused. Doesn't Konami's patent for the Beatmania controller cover the Guitar Freaks AND the drummania controllers? Or are there three separate patents?

Post #9 · Posted at 2009-02-13 10:16:59am 16.2 years ago

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Apparently Harmonix is claiming that their controllers are "improvements" or something like that.

Post #10 · Posted at 2009-02-13 10:17:02am 16.2 years ago

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Considering the fact that Konami made Guitar Freaks and Drummania before Rock Band was ever created, this doesn't make any sense.

Post #11 · Posted at 2009-02-13 10:20:58am 16.2 years ago

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Improvements? I'd say it's the same thing!

Guitar - Hold button and strum, no change there.
Drum - Hit the pad, no change there.

Post #12 · Posted at 2009-02-13 10:22:10am 16.2 years ago

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Yeah really, Konami should be the only one allowed to sue as they were the first to give birth to the Guitar and Drum simulation games same for the Dance and DJ... How can a company come to sue Konami... Are they serious?

Post #13 · Posted at 2009-02-13 10:22:38am 16.2 years ago

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Quote: piepiepie75
Apparently Harmonix is claiming that their controllers are "improvements" or something like that.

Guitar: Maybe...

Drums: AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

This is obviously a big failsuit in the making.

Post #14 · Posted at 2009-02-13 10:23:05am 16.2 years ago

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Wow these companies really need to chill the heck out. The competition really isn't that fierce, it's not like every 1st person shooting game out there is sueing each other. Most people buy/play a wide range of rhythm games anyways, and variety is always good.

[quote=amorite]

[quote=Bloomberg.com]
The Viacom patent, issued Dec. 2, claims it is an improvement of earlier video-game controllers that emulate musical instruments, and cites the Beatmania series of games by Konami as an example of the older inventions.

[/quote]

An "improvement" to earlier video-game controllers eh? So that's their way of saying they plagarized?

Post #15 · Posted at 2009-02-13 10:38:01am 16.2 years ago

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KONAMI will be sued!

Now come on, this is just silly, Harmonix.
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Post #16 · Posted at 2009-02-13 10:50:35am 16.2 years ago

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Post #17 · Posted at 2009-02-13 10:53:48am 16.2 years ago

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I can't help but think:

Harmonix = I steal your ideas then sue you for it! Dead

Post #18 · Posted at 2009-02-13 11:10:55am 16.2 years ago

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To think Rock Band would be a serious competitor is a lofty goal for Konami. They should have known (and probably did) that they were copying a popular franchise and that their own would fizzle out. It's nothing to cry about if Harmonix wins this case.
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Post #19 · Posted at 2009-02-13 11:13:15am 16.2 years ago

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It's nothing to cry about if Harmonix wins this case.

True, but seriously, I highly doubt they will win.

Post #20 · Posted at 2009-02-13 11:22:18am 16.2 years ago

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I bet Konami's gonna win, mainly because they've made DDR, IIDX, DM, and GF, all before Guitar Hero, Rock Band, DJ Hero, and Dance Hero (which I've never really seen...).
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