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Post #1 · Posted at 2017-10-12 06:08:52pm 4.7 days ago

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Sup. Wanted to make a thread because this rule hasn't been discussed or have been shown in a manner that is known. There are songs within DDR that have various edits or different step charts. Some of these changes are miniscual with sync edits, some of these are small step chart edits for syncing reasons. I want to bring in discussion of what it means to AAA them and what to know if these apply as different or the same type of AAA.

Songs with Stepchart Edits
This includes the various edits made from ULTRAMIX -> FESTIVAL. Most of these charts would see another change in SUPERNOVA. Another notable example is Stomp To My Beat's DDRMAX USA's Chart. It is missing one note in the expert chart and it uses the 2ndMIX Era chart. Would this constitute a new AAA and would it be legal to make an edit chart using the chart from another game and counting that as another AAA?

Songs with Manual Sync Fixes
This is a smaller category but there are a few Boss songs that were notably tweaked due to questionable syncing. A notable example of this would be NGO. It had notoriously bad sync in SUPERNOVA 2 but was tweaked in A. Would the older sync of Supernova 2 count as a new AAA or would both be considered the same AAA.

Glitch Stepcharts
This is revolving entirely around the DDR EXTREME course glitch. For those that do not know, it is glitch where if you select a course too early and the game doesn't register which course you are on, it will give you a different step chart then the usual chart the game is supposed to give you. DAM DARRIRAM, Love Shine, and Last Message have this error. Do these count as completely unique AAA's or do they not count?

Using Edit Mode
This one is a little bit more accepted as not, but this is still a valid concern. The use of edit mode to create other charts of the same song used in other games where it has a different chart. Should this be considered a legal way of getting another AAA? There are constraints to those as there were several new Challenge Charts made for DDR X3 vs 2ndMIX. Making an edit in a game where it's grade system doesn't match X3's might be a constraint to this being okay. There are also the another edits made in CLUB VERSION that had only a handful of the another's song cuts make it to another game. (Notably PARANOiA MAX ~Dirty Mix~ (ANOTHER VERSION 2) made it onto DDRMAX US) Would it be perfectly fine to make a step chart using a similar song with the same song length using the other game's Stepchart and could that as a AAA?

I know there are probably more things I am missing at this time, but I want this to be a constructive discussion of if these types of changes are okay to consider it another AAA to add in to a person's log.
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Post #2 · Posted at 2017-10-12 06:17:10pm 4.7 days ago

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As someone who's never AAA'd a song before, I don't have much I can add to this. I think changing the sync of individual steps changes the legality, though. bag's Heavy and Challenge charts are the same, except Challenge uses the old, slightly off-sync steps, and they're scored separately. That's all I can judge it on...

Post #3 · Posted at 2017-10-12 06:51:50pm 4.7 days ago

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Glitch Stepcharts
This is revolving entirely around the DDR EXTREME course glitch. For those that do not know, it is glitch where if you select a course too early and the game doesn't register which course you are on, it will give you a different step chart then the usual chart the game is supposed to give you. DAM DARRIRAM, Love Shine, and Last Message have this error. Do these count as completely unique AAA's or do they not count?

No. It's impossible to play these charts on their own, or even outside of Challenge Mode.

Post #4 · Posted at 2017-10-12 09:16:31pm 4.6 days ago

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Glitch Stepcharts
This is revolving entirely around the DDR EXTREME course glitch. For those that do not know, it is glitch where if you select a course too early and the game doesn't register which course you are on, it will give you a different step chart then the usual chart the game is supposed to give you. DAM DARRIRAM, Love Shine, and Last Message have this error. Do these count as completely unique AAA's or do they not count?

I highly doubt these count, since they aren't accesible by normal methods. Not to mention two of those charts are unfinished (Last Message's chart has no arrows until the end of the chorus, while HIGHER's consists only of left arrows).
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