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Post #1 · Posted at 2013-07-09 10:21:41am 11.8 years ago

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Hello dudes~

I recently bought a dedicated DDR Supernova machine with "hardware failure" due to the system not booting up at start. Looked the machine over after buying it and found the PS2 held no boot disc. Thus, I believe I made a good buy, however I do not have a boot disc to test out the machine. Does anyone know anyone that is interested in selling their Supernova boot disc for the Python 2 system or any good dealers that sell this disc? I contacted Betson, ChannelBeat, and CoinOpExpress.

I was planning on converting the machine over to OpenITG that's why I was interested in a broken machine. I still am, but currently would like it to work and then convert it--due to storage reasons.

Any information is welcome~

Post #2 · Posted at 2013-07-09 01:57:14pm 11.8 years ago

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i would suggest modding it with Stepmania 3.9 insert Supernova Theme... and songs.. heh...Laughing Out Loud

i cant even find an accurate google search for a disk..
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Post #3 · Posted at 2013-07-09 05:37:35pm 11.8 years ago

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The boot disc will do you no good 99% of the time. usually when the Python 2 fails its because the HDD has died and sadly its not a simple "swap with another HDD" ordeal. Your Python 2 is most likely a giant paperweight sadly Sad The only reason the SuperNOVA disc would ever come in handy is if something gets corrupted, which I have never heard or see happen.

You can either find another SuperNOVA/SuperNOVA2 kit, use different hardware or send the Python 2 back to Betson to fix. Its is VERY expensive though, about $1,000USD. Sounds like you want to convert it to something else anyways so I would honestly just worry about doing that now, it will be the cheapest solution to get at least something running on the machine.

Post #4 · Posted at 2013-07-09 11:35:03pm 11.8 years ago

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Gotcha, thank you for the information! I wanted to get the machine running on Supernova since it's currently in an arcade's basement, which doesn't have great storing conditions or real room to work. [ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOvuaSjCYAAxAXV.jpg ] If I got it working I could have it on the arcade floor and convert it when I got the chance to. Since it sounds like the chances are low that I will be able to get this thing working as Supernova I am going to just converted to OpenITG, OpenITG runs better on my system than Stepmania. Just bought the J-PAC for it... Doesn't look like I am going to be able to get a kit or disc either. CoinOpExpress and Betson said they don't have either. Betson can only repair the unit, like you said.

Thank you~

Post #5 · Posted at 2013-07-10 01:52:44am 11.8 years ago

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I dont think thats healthy for the pads o_o
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Post #6 · Posted at 2013-07-10 04:39:36am 11.8 years ago

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Quote: AxelWasHere
i would suggest modding it with Stepmania 3.9 insert Supernova Theme... and songs.. heh...Laughing Out Loud

i cant even find an accurate google search for a disk..

Supernova theme isn't even accurate. Considering I haven't played Supernova AC since 2009... good luck.
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Post #7 · Posted at 2013-07-10 04:49:50am 11.8 years ago

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i would suggest modding it with Stepmania 3.9 insert Supernova Theme... and songs.. heh...Laughing Out Loud

i cant even find an accurate google search for a disk..

Supernova theme isn't even accurate. Considering I haven't played Supernova AC since 2009... good luck.


Note the "heh" part.
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Post #8 · Posted at 2013-07-10 05:43:11am 11.8 years ago

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Gotcha, thank you for the information! I wanted to get the machine running on Supernova since it's currently in an arcade's basement, which doesn't have great storing conditions or real room to work. [ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOvuaSjCYAAxAXV.jpg ] If I got it working I could have it on the arcade floor and convert it when I got the chance to. Since it sounds like the chances are low that I will be able to get this thing working as Supernova I am going to just converted to OpenITG, OpenITG runs better on my system than Stepmania. Just bought the J-PAC for it... Doesn't look like I am going to be able to get a kit or disc either. CoinOpExpress and Betson said they don't have either. Betson can only repair the unit, like you said.

Thank you~
This is honestly one of your best options. The only downside to this is you will not get lighting controlled on the cabinet, so if your not worried about that then go for it. You could also run a 573 in it from ebay if you want. You just need to undo the EXT-I/O and any wiring adapters it used to connect everything and you would honestly be all set. I for one like running official games so I would go the 573 route.

Also if you don't want that Python 2 and EXT-I/O (and never plan to fix the kit) sell it to someone that could use it like me. Tongue

Post #9 · Posted at 2013-07-10 08:36:30am 11.8 years ago

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I dont think thats healthy for the pads o_o
They are not touching the sensors and no other place to leave them since this basement floods all the time, thus the reason I want it out of the basement.

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Gotcha, thank you for the information! I wanted to get the machine running on Supernova since it's currently in an arcade's basement, which doesn't have great storing conditions or real room to work. [ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOvuaSjCYAAxAXV.jpg ] If I got it working I could have it on the arcade floor and convert it when I got the chance to. Since it sounds like the chances are low that I will be able to get this thing working as Supernova I am going to just converted to OpenITG, OpenITG runs better on my system than Stepmania. Just bought the J-PAC for it... Doesn't look like I am going to be able to get a kit or disc either. CoinOpExpress and Betson said they don't have either. Betson can only repair the unit, like you said.

Thank you~
This is honestly one of your best options. The only downside to this is you will not get lighting controlled on the cabinet, so if your not worried about that then go for it. You could also run a 573 in it from ebay if you want. You just need to undo the EXT-I/O and any wiring adapters it used to connect everything and you would honestly be all set. I for one like running official games so I would go the 573 route.

Also if you don't want that Python 2 and EXT-I/O (and never plan to fix the kit) sell it to someone that could use it like me. Tongue
I am looking to have all of the lights work on the machine. My area just recently lost it's region's ITG machine and I am looking to try to give people a place to go that at least has ITG songs and harder songs than DDR and feels the same. What is a 573? Would that be a PC type light I/O unit?

I am going to try to get it up and running. I paid extra to keep the inside of the machine so I am going to try. However, if I can't get it going, I will know who to contact. Smile It's just that right now when I connect it to a monitor it tells me that "sync out of range". I may have to convert it using a board I already own, but there things I wanna mess with, you know. XD I am having co-workers telling me to pop a US ITG or Supernova disc inside of the unit to see what it does, but I don't want to mess anything up in case. Still looking for that boot disc just to what it will do. Mainly 'cause I think someone was messing with the PS2 system before I bought it since the metal plate normally covering the PS2 is missing from my unit.

Post #10 · Posted at 2013-07-10 08:50:45am 11.8 years ago

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The system uses a USB I/O so putting either disc inside will not work as far as controls goes. Its also a Japanese region console so it won't even boot the games even if you wanted it to in its current state.

The sync out of range means it is getting a frequency that is too high or low OR the resolution is too high (you need 640x480). In your case it is likely too high, VGA runs at 31khz while CGA uses 15khz and that is where you need to be for the factory arcade monitor. To do this download soft15khz on the computer you want to use so you can have output at 15khz instead of 31khz.

Also a system 573 is the hardware used to run 1st mix through DDR EXTREME. I believe there is one on ebay complete with a flash card for about $300, which is about the normal going rate now a days for those in working and complete condition.

Post #11 · Posted at 2013-07-10 09:18:11am 11.8 years ago

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just out of curiosity, did you buy this from a guy named paul in troy, mi? if so, you got to it before me and got it for a nice price Wink

Post #12 · Posted at 2013-07-10 10:49:05am 11.8 years ago

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Quote: Kon
The system uses a USB I/O so putting either disc inside will not work as far as controls goes. Its also a Japanese region console so it won't even boot the games even if you wanted it to in its current state.

The sync out of range means it is getting a frequency that is too high or low OR the resolution is too high (you need 640x480). In your case it is likely too high, VGA runs at 31khz while CGA uses 15khz and that is where you need to be for the factory arcade monitor. To do this download soft15khz on the computer you want to use so you can have output at 15khz instead of 31khz.

Also a system 573 is the hardware used to run 1st mix through DDR EXTREME. I believe there is one on ebay complete with a flash card for about $300, which is about the normal going rate now a days for those in working and complete condition.
Okay~ Awesome! The monitor converter kit will be able to convert that for me. Might have something on screen after doing that, don't know...

Gotcha. I don't think that is what I am looking for. I have heard of a Stepmania to DDR light board somewhere on the internet. I have seen a few people show it off on their machines in videos, but have no idea what it is called.

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just out of curiosity, did you buy this from a guy named paul in troy, mi? if so, you got to it before me and got it for a nice price Wink
I did! He has another Supernova machine, but I am not sure how much that one is going for or its condition. I ended up buying it for $1000. Shaved off $400 for the monitor since I did not want a CRT with the system. Mine's water damaged, but over all still good otherwise.

Post #13 · Posted at 2013-07-10 10:51:47am 11.8 years ago

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You are probably talking about the I-Pac conversion for the lights. If you are not tech savvy and know how to re-wire things I do not suggest doing this though. The other alternative is to buy a minimaid but I believe they are no longer being sold and no one ever sells them.

Post #14 · Posted at 2013-07-10 11:36:06am 11.8 years ago

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You are probably talking about the I-Pac conversion for the lights. If you are not tech savvy and know how to re-wire things I do not suggest doing this though. The other alternative is to buy a minimaid but I believe they are no longer being sold and no one ever sells them.
Yeah, the minimaid is what I was thinking of. I have heard some things about using parallel ports, maybe might check into that when I get the game going. I own two I-Pacs for a mame project, but I would not know how to get it to emulate the lights in DDR.

Post #15 · Posted at 2013-07-12 09:44:56am 11.8 years ago

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You are probably talking about the I-Pac conversion for the lights. If you are not tech savvy and know how to re-wire things I do not suggest doing this though. The other alternative is to buy a minimaid but I believe they are no longer being sold and no one ever sells them.
Yeah, the minimaid is what I was thinking of. I have heard some things about using parallel ports, maybe might check into that when I get the game going. I own two I-Pacs for a mame project, but I would not know how to get it to emulate the lights in DDR.
I might know a way... I gotta remember though. I got it working when I used to own a Supernova machine and had the same problem as you. Took about 3 months.
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Post #16 · Posted at 2013-07-13 01:04:13am 11.8 years ago

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You are probably talking about the I-Pac conversion for the lights. If you are not tech savvy and know how to re-wire things I do not suggest doing this though. The other alternative is to buy a minimaid but I believe they are no longer being sold and no one ever sells them.
Yeah, the minimaid is what I was thinking of. I have heard some things about using parallel ports, maybe might check into that when I get the game going. I own two I-Pacs for a mame project, but I would not know how to get it to emulate the lights in DDR.
I might know a way... I gotta remember though. I got it working when I used to own a Supernova machine and had the same problem as you. Took about 3 months.
What would that method be?

Post #17 · Posted at 2013-07-14 05:31:38am 11.8 years ago

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Either replacing the screen with an lcd and have my ps2....... that was my 2nd option if using a emulator (was thinking mame or stepmania) If you already got the HDD working.... I'll help with the lights... It was a pain in the ass though. Had to wire it, replace the lights... Well, good luck. Hope it helped.

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Post #18 · Posted at 2013-07-14 11:34:15am 11.8 years ago

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Either replacing the screen with an lcd and have my ps2....... that was my 2nd option if using a emulator (was thinking mame or stepmania) If you already got the HDD working.... I'll help with the lights... It was a pain in the ass though. Had to wire it, replace the lights... Well, good luck. Hope it helped.
I am already putting in a new screen, however unless you have a modified Japanese Ps2 I don't think that will work. This is going into an arcade so I can't have it running a home version of Supernova if that is what you are thinking.

Help with the lights how though? I don't think I am going to be doing a complete rewiring job on the cabinet when there are other solutions.

Post #19 · Posted at 2013-07-14 12:57:24pm 11.8 years ago

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I don't know if 2DXFTW is talking out of his ass or what but you can't use MAME to play DDR. System 573 hasn't been emulated for use in MAME yet because of the digital I/O giving developers problems coding/decoding how it is used. Its going to probably be a while before someone steps in and has it functioning 100% in MAME.

Post #20 · Posted at 2013-07-14 01:00:08pm 11.8 years ago

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it's a longshot but you could try contacting the poster on bemanistyle who makes the boards kon was referring to above (the minimaid). here's the thread about them: http://www.bemanistyle.com/forum/showthread.php?301-Stepmania-and-oITG-adapter-for-your-DDR-Arcade-machine-Minimaid-USB-IO

as of early june he had sold all of the pre-ordered boards except for one, so you could ask him if that one is still available even though it's unlikely. otherwise it's possible that he might make more eventually but that won't help you in the near term.

where is the arcade where this machine will be located once you get it up and running?
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