Upgrade to DDR X2 Questions, NEED HELP!

Hello!
Ok, I will tell you what's it's my doubt.

I own a DDR X1 machine (EUROPEAN VERSION) and I obtained the installation DISCS of DDR X2 (AMERICAN VERSION)

So, I want to install them in my DDR X. As far I know, the hardware is the same, and I will use other HDD, just to keep safe the DDR X installation, so, my question are:

-Even if I use a different HDD, is there any danger of harm the hardware of the machine?


I know that maybe, the security dongle of DDR X1 are different that the one present on DDR X2, but I want to try it, but only if I know that I won't make any hurt to the hardware of the machine

For example, for those of you that had Ps3, under certain circumstances, if you use the usb dongle "True Blue", the USB DONGLE gets damaged. Could this happen with the dongle of DDR X?

I asked to Konami about the procedure, and they only managed to told me that "I have to keep safe the DDR X1 data, because they doesn't tried this procedure never, and they cannot give me any advice"


So, any danger trying ?


Thanks

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Unless you have the dongles for X2 you have some nice frisbees.

And installation should be super easy. Should be as easy as putting the disc in the computer and rebooting it. Obviously you need to be careful when you open any machine, and yes, you can potentially wipe the data off the HDD for X1 (uhhh you most likely will) and I would also recommend removing the dongle as well.

But in all honesty its a waste of time without the proper dongle to accompany the game. It will 100% not work with a X1 dongle, you know, so no one can waltz up to any X1 machine and install X2 without paying for it.

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Ok! Thanks for the answer.

Where is dongle located? What is the shape? I never saw it before.

And so sad about X2 dongle, because the installation discs are from a friend from America and obviously he can't give me the DDR X2 dongles :/

Well, I have a lot of time, so I will try anyways and see what's happens.

But I'll remove the HDD of the DDRX1 for security reasons.

Thanks again =)

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There's no way you'll be able to install a pirated version of X2 on the hardware, so if you're taking the X1 hardware out, you may as well install Stepmania rather than trying to install X2.

It's not a pirated version, I have the original installation CDs, but of course I don't have the dongles from my friend because he need them.

And installing Stepmania will be so difficult to me ...I don't have any idea, I supose that it will be replace the PC, but how the pads will work, and the lights...xD I know that it possible but I don't have any idea about it.

Thanks for the answer!

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Trying to install it on more than one machine is pirating it. The dongle is an anti-piracy measure, because while you can theoretically use the discs to create more than one copy of DDR X2, you can't create a copy of the dongle.


If you can't install Stepmania and resolder the pads into a Jamma loom, then installing a pirated version of X2 without the dongle is completely out of the question. It's a thousand times more complicated and requires intimate knowledge of security hacking.

I thought everyone knows already that upgraded European X2s has fucked up gameplay?

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Installing SM unto a physical aracde machine isn't that hard check this out



Though I would recommend getting a 2nd arcade machine to do it on.

Yeah, but I have the discs of the American version hehe
thanks for the answers, and thanks for the video!

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You likely don't have the installation CD for the American version. You might have a recovery disc which isn't the same thing, and again, its useless without the dongle even if it was.

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I have 4 Cds, the first one install the system, and the rest are "Application data CDs" (the stuff)

Thanks for all =)

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Sorry to rain down your parade, but the recovery disc IS the installation disc. You guys in the US never got kits, in Europe the kit consisted of the recovery DVD set + topflash, and dongle.

There is NO way you are going to be able to get X2 working without the dongle. I can source you a legitimate dongle, as I work for the UK distributor, but its not going to be cheap. (1.3k-1.5k euros)

After that, you are not going to have the game playing in correct sync, X2 runs off a Dell Optiplex 580, whereas X1 runs on a Dell Optiplex 740. The slight hardware difference plagued the EU with syncing problems.


You can also completely disregard this, X1/X2 machines run a slight variation of JAMMA, and this would not work. You'd be better using a IPAC to interface with the pads and control panel.

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I am aware Europe got upgrades, but he said he has the American discs, which would be recovery discs, and yes, might also contain the full install of the game. But as we all keep saying, the dongle is his biggest issue and that will stand for any Raw Thrills or Konami releases.

What he could do to fix the sync is possibly buy a Optiplex 580 and just swap the needed parts from the Optiplex 740 computer. That would fix the sync likely but not the dongle issue.

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We actually got the same disc set, and region E/U is set by dongle type ONLY. Data set is a 1:1 match. Didn't really feel the need to go into THAT much detail though.

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So, for make it all clear:

-Even with the dongle, I will have a unsynced game,even installing the American Version of DDRX2? ( I though that the problem is present only in european version)

-The dongle will cost me at least 1000 € ( U_U)


So, I should return to my friend the "Frisbees" right? xD

thanks =)

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Yes. Simply due to the hardware, and not software.

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no worth to try it, then.

I will try then to install some kind of Open ITG or something like that. I saw a lot tutorials for old dedicab, but for that one...
At first glance, maybe it seems that it is easier right? Because supernova for example is a PS2 and DDR X is a PC...?

I don't, Im just speculating xD

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Well actually the older cabinets would be easier since its basically just jamma (in which case you would use a J-Pac). For the newer cabinets you would likely have to wire directly into a I-Pac for the pads and inputs to work.

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I could more than likely build you up an I/O board for your machine, if you plan to use ITG/SM. You may also want to replace the existing amp, since it sits on the I/O for the DDRX.

All in all, it is possible to convert it to SM/ITG but is it really worth it?

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