Post #1 · Posted at 2012-07-24 11:55:02pm 12.9 years ago
DDRTapePad - My homemade DDR pad design that is very cheap, thin (1/4"), light , firm, sensitive, slide-free, and easy to build. It's mostly made of tape.
http://imgur.com/a/0Qg9O
Key Features
* Under$70 $96 total for 2 pads, see below for details
* NO soldering, welding, or sawing.
* 1/4" thick. This is not a typo, it's a quarter of an inch thick.
* Very solid on carpet or hard floors.
* Very sensitive, it is nearly impossible to touch a panel without triggering it.
* The only tools needed are scissors, pliers, a ruler, and an exacto knife.
* Top surface is flat and waterproof (arrows are not recessed but I have an idea for that)
* Button foot prints are as large as you want to make them
* Makes almost no noise if playing in socks.
* Build time is 3-6 hours depending on how much of a perfectionist you are.
* It's not pretty, but it could be with some effort.
COST BREAKDOWN
Unfortunately nothing can be purchased in a small enough quantity so you end up with lots of extra supplies. The DuraLar plastic in particular is not very cost efficient because you have to buy so much and it is expensive.
Here are the minimum amounts I can find for each component:
3/16" Hardboard - $13.44 from Home Depot for a 4x8' which is enough for 2 pads. I have never seen 4x4' in stock anywhere but that would be better for one pad. Home Depot will cut the larger one down for free. Or make 2 pads on one large piece, that would be pretty awesome actually.
DuraLar 5mil, 40" wide - $18.95 on Amazon for 12 feet, which is enough for 4 pads. Perhaps an art or framing store would sell it by the foot.
Mueller Prewrap - $4.00 on Amazon for a roll, enough for at least 4 pads, maybe more
Nashua Cold Weather Foil Tape - $7.88 at HomeDepot for a roll of 1.875" width, enough for 7 pads. You can use other widths but they are more expensive and force you to buy even more of it, but the plus side is you have fewer strips to cut and lay down.
JVCC CFL-5CA Copper Foil Tape with conductive adhesive, 1/4" - $17.65 on Amazon for a roll, enough for 3 pads.
ScotchBlue Painter's Tape 1" - $3.93 at HomeDepot for a roll, enough for 12 or more pads.
A controller - price depends on the system you want to use it with. You can get a cheap PC USB gamepad for under $10 on Amazon, though the contacts may not be easy to tape to. For the easiest build, most soft DDR pads have wide flat contacts that work well with the copper tape. Amazon has several for under $15.
I would assume everyone already has masking tape and double-sided scotch tape and very little of those are required so they are not worth pricing separately.
So to build one pad, assuming you use a DDR soft pad for the controller at $15, would cost $81. But for $15 more (for another controller) you could build 2 pads.
http://imgur.com/a/0Qg9O
Key Features
* Under
* NO soldering, welding, or sawing.
* 1/4" thick. This is not a typo, it's a quarter of an inch thick.
* Very solid on carpet or hard floors.
* Very sensitive, it is nearly impossible to touch a panel without triggering it.
* The only tools needed are scissors, pliers, a ruler, and an exacto knife.
* Top surface is flat and waterproof (arrows are not recessed but I have an idea for that)
* Button foot prints are as large as you want to make them
* Makes almost no noise if playing in socks.
* Build time is 3-6 hours depending on how much of a perfectionist you are.
* It's not pretty, but it could be with some effort.
COST BREAKDOWN
Unfortunately nothing can be purchased in a small enough quantity so you end up with lots of extra supplies. The DuraLar plastic in particular is not very cost efficient because you have to buy so much and it is expensive.
Here are the minimum amounts I can find for each component:
3/16" Hardboard - $13.44 from Home Depot for a 4x8' which is enough for 2 pads. I have never seen 4x4' in stock anywhere but that would be better for one pad. Home Depot will cut the larger one down for free. Or make 2 pads on one large piece, that would be pretty awesome actually.
DuraLar 5mil, 40" wide - $18.95 on Amazon for 12 feet, which is enough for 4 pads. Perhaps an art or framing store would sell it by the foot.
Mueller Prewrap - $4.00 on Amazon for a roll, enough for at least 4 pads, maybe more
Nashua Cold Weather Foil Tape - $7.88 at HomeDepot for a roll of 1.875" width, enough for 7 pads. You can use other widths but they are more expensive and force you to buy even more of it, but the plus side is you have fewer strips to cut and lay down.
JVCC CFL-5CA Copper Foil Tape with conductive adhesive, 1/4" - $17.65 on Amazon for a roll, enough for 3 pads.
ScotchBlue Painter's Tape 1" - $3.93 at HomeDepot for a roll, enough for 12 or more pads.
A controller - price depends on the system you want to use it with. You can get a cheap PC USB gamepad for under $10 on Amazon, though the contacts may not be easy to tape to. For the easiest build, most soft DDR pads have wide flat contacts that work well with the copper tape. Amazon has several for under $15.
I would assume everyone already has masking tape and double-sided scotch tape and very little of those are required so they are not worth pricing separately.
So to build one pad, assuming you use a DDR soft pad for the controller at $15, would cost $81. But for $15 more (for another controller) you could build 2 pads.
Post #2 · Posted at 2012-07-25 12:11:29am 12.9 years ago
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Hey, that's kind of a neat idea.
This could be really handy for people that find metal pads too expensive or can't get one shipped to their place, as this pad uses hardboard and seems to be durable enough.
This could be really handy for people that find metal pads too expensive or can't get one shipped to their place, as this pad uses hardboard and seems to be durable enough.

Post #3 · Posted at 2012-07-25 01:53:32am 12.9 years ago
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Hey, that's kind of a neat idea.
This could be really handy for people that find metal pads too expensive or can't get one shipped to their place, as this pad uses hardboard and seems to be durable enough.
This could be really handy for people that find metal pads too expensive or can't get one shipped to their place, as this pad uses hardboard and seems to be durable enough.

Thanks. Hardboard is amazingly strong for its weight and thickness. And it lasts a very long time. I've actually had this piece for several years and I have used it for several different pad design attempts. You can see the remnants of that in the first photo.
Post #4 · Posted at 2012-07-25 02:47:56am 12.9 years ago
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wow that's awesome, maybe i'll try that out later and see what I can do.
Post #5 · Posted at 2012-07-25 02:56:45am 12.9 years ago
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Let me know if you run into any problems.
Post #6 · Posted at 2012-07-25 04:50:28am 12.9 years ago
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By the way, how much was for everything?
Post #7 · Posted at 2012-07-25 07:53:43am 12.9 years ago
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By the way, how much was for everything?
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Key Features
* Under $70 in parts (which is actually enough to build 2 or more pads)
* Under $70 in parts (which is actually enough to build 2 or more pads)
Post #8 · Posted at 2012-07-25 08:44:51am 12.9 years ago
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Quote: Parafox
Quote: XmatthewX
By the way, how much was for everything?
Quote: NarcolepZ
Key Features
* Under $70 in parts (which is actually enough to build 2 or more pads)
* Under $70 in parts (which is actually enough to build 2 or more pads)
Post #9 · Posted at 2012-07-25 08:47:08am 12.9 years ago
Unfortunately nothing can be purchased in a small enough quantity so you end up with lots of extra supplies. The DuraLar plastic in particular really kills the cost-efficiency.
I updated the first post with a cost breakdown.
I updated the first post with a cost breakdown.
Post #10 · Posted at 2012-07-25 12:47:27pm 12.9 years ago
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OK, thank you so much. I will make it this September when I get money and tell you how that goes.
Post #11 · Posted at 2012-08-02 02:03:06am 12.9 years ago
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mind if i steal this to put into my homepad thread? pics are much appreciated
Post #12 · Posted at 2012-08-02 06:48:13am 12.9 years ago
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mind if i steal this to put into my homepad thread? pics are much appreciated
It would probably be best to link to this thread because I will update the first post occasionally. I'm also going to update the pictures and text on imgur but unfortunately I have to delete it all in order to do that so that link will die soon.
Post #13 · Posted at 2012-08-02 07:45:30am 12.9 years ago
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I was thinking, "When would 8ftmetalhead notice this thread?" I was kinda surprised this wasn't posted in his thread, but whatever.
Nice job on your homemade pad.
Nice job on your homemade pad.
Post #14 · Posted at 2012-08-03 03:07:08am 12.9 years ago
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I would imagine if you have two separate pads that you wanted to sometimes have connected for doubles, you could use a Velcro strap type of system similar to the ones used on third party foam pads to connect the two together. Some people would probably like to have two separate pads to make storage a bit easier. I saw this thread when you first posted it but was really interested in the price point and durability. I had some thoughts about how you could simulate a recessed arrow at first but I kinda forgot what I originally thought up. It's probably the same as yours though anyway.
Also, question. If the arrows are too sensitive for some people wouldn't a little extra foam insulation or plastic around the arrows help with that or would it be too thick for the sensor to register?
Also, question. If the arrows are too sensitive for some people wouldn't a little extra foam insulation or plastic around the arrows help with that or would it be too thick for the sensor to register?
Post #15 · Posted at 2012-08-03 03:25:13am 12.9 years ago
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I would SO make two of these, but I should probably try to figure out how to cover the circuit board before I even start making plans.
Now, I also would like to see a video of you playing on this. Looks really, really awesome.
Now, I also would like to see a video of you playing on this. Looks really, really awesome.
Post #16 · Posted at 2012-08-05 09:17:51am 12.9 years ago
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I would SO make two of these, but I should probably try to figure out how to cover the circuit board before I even start making plans.
Now, I also would like to see a video of you playing on this. Looks really, really awesome.
Now, I also would like to see a video of you playing on this. Looks really, really awesome.
Best way to protect the circuit board is to use a flat small rectangular USB joystick like the class NES usb pad so you can just mount it to the board. I used what I had available.
I'll try to do a demo video showing its response/sensitivity. I'm not a very good player (level 5/6), I just really enjoy it.
Quote: sharibetsu
I would imagine if you have two separate pads that you wanted to sometimes have connected for doubles, you could use a Velcro strap type of system similar to the ones used on third party foam pads to connect the two together. Some people would probably like to have two separate pads to make storage a bit easier. I saw this thread when you first posted it but was really interested in the price point and durability. I had some thoughts about how you could simulate a recessed arrow at first but I kinda forgot what I originally thought up. It's probably the same as yours though anyway.
Also, question. If the arrows are too sensitive for some people wouldn't a little extra foam insulation or plastic around the arrows help with that or would it be too thick for the sensor to register?
Also, question. If the arrows are too sensitive for some people wouldn't a little extra foam insulation or plastic around the arrows help with that or would it be too thick for the sensor to register?
To minimize wear and tear, it is important for the top plastic layer, and all parts really, to not have to move/flex very much. If you want the arrows to be less sensitive, the solution is to use thicker foam for all of the foam lines under each arrow.. But this will cause the plastic surface to have to flex more, where the original design involves almost no flexing. Using more foam only around the arrow perimeters won't work well and will cause the top surface to have to flex a lot.
I have added 1mm dense/hard foam to the non-arrow squares on my pad to attempt to be able to feel the difference between arrow and non-arrow with my feet. It didn't work particularly well, I really can't feel it much through my socks.
Post #17 · Posted at 2013-02-09 07:13:17am 12.4 years ago
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How does this build hold up under fast songs? Anyone have videos of this? It has been a while since this was posted, how are the pads doing?
Post #18 · Posted at 2013-02-09 04:37:38pm 12.4 years ago
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Post #19 · Posted at 2013-02-09 05:22:44pm 12.4 years ago
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It is useless to make another thread though.
Damn I didn't realize this thread before, too bad I'd rather have an arcade styled pad.
Damn I didn't realize this thread before, too bad I'd rather have an arcade styled pad.
Post #20 · Posted at 2013-02-10 08:41:00am 12.4 years ago
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I will be making this same build, but using Lexan (polycarbonate) because it is a stronger material. I will also be testing a few designs with no foam so i don't have to worry about repairing the foam.