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Post #1 · Posted at 2012-07-21 11:18:00pm 12.9 years ago

Offline Zowayix
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Please let me know if any of the following is incorrect:

- On MAX1, Challenge difficulty never existed and was never selectable.

- On arcade MAX2, Challenge difficulty was only playable in particular courses in Nonstop/Oni mode.
- On home MAX2, these course-only songs could be unlocked for regular play.

- On a non-fully-unlocked arcade Extreme, Challenge difficulty was only playable in particular courses in Nonstop/Oni mode. (Is this true? For example, it would make Legend Road the only way to play PSMO before the game was fully unlocked. What about the Challenge-only songs from MAX2? Are they freely selectable?)
- On a fully-unlocked arcade Extreme, and Extreme JP CS, Challenge difficulty can be freely selected like any other difficulty.

- On every arcade mix since then, Challenge difficulty can be freely selected unless the song is exclusive to Extra Stages.

Post #2 · Posted at 2012-07-21 11:22:39pm 12.9 years ago

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Those MAX2 Challenge only songs are playable by default in EXTREME, AFAIK.
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Post #3 · Posted at 2012-07-22 12:09:41am 12.9 years ago

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So on a non-fully-unlocked Extreme, Challenge is not selectable except for those MAX2 special songs, in which case it is the only difficulty selectable?

Post #4 · Posted at 2012-07-22 12:14:19am 12.9 years ago

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On Max 2, Kakumei Challenge was the only song playable on One More Extra Stage.

Post #5 · Posted at 2012-07-22 12:20:03am 12.9 years ago

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Quote: Zowayix
So on a non-fully-unlocked Extreme, Challenge is not selectable except for those MAX2 special songs, in which case it is the only difficulty selectable?

And some regular songs with Challenge difficulty, like BUTTERFLY, LET'S GET DOWN, DYNAMITE RAVE, etc.
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Post #6 · Posted at 2012-07-22 02:04:03am 12.9 years ago

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So on a non-fully-unlocked Extreme, a song like BUTTERFLY has Challenge selectable, but a song like PSM (unlocked on Final Stage) has Heavy selectable but not Challenge?

Post #7 · Posted at 2012-07-22 02:19:22am 12.9 years ago

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The use of the Challenge symbol is making this really confusing :{

In DDRMAX 2, "Challenge" is a mode, not a difficulty level. You play songs back to back, and some of them are unique remixes, which are only playable in this mode. They only have one chart.

In DDR Extreme, Challenge is the fifth difficulty level. Previously, there were songs that had charts harder than their maniac charts, but this concept never had an official name (In Dancing Stage it was called "Super Maniac", but in the canon series, new charts just replaced the existing Maniac charts, which were demoted to Edit Edit. Most people referred to the newer, harder charts as "S-Maniac".

In Extreme, some songs have a Challenge chart, denoting that they are charts designed specifically for play in the Challenge mode. They aren't necessarily easier or harder than the Heavy charts, and you can select them at will. Some of the Challenge charts unlock after the Heavy charts unlock.

From that point on, Challenge just denotes a difficulty level higher than Heavy.

Post #8 · Posted at 2012-07-22 02:37:52am 12.9 years ago

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Quote: Tyma
In DDRMAX 2, "Challenge" is a mode, not a difficulty level. You play songs back to back, and some of them are unique remixes, which are only playable in this mode. They only have one chart.

It's still a difficulty technically, KAKUMEI was the first song to feature all levels, though of course only for ENCORE EXTRA STAGE purposes.

Challenge from MAX2-EXTREME basically was meant exclusively for Oni mode, where the challenge is to combo songs on x1, so the charts are generally designed with that in mind. From SuperNOVA on, it's the difficulty harder than Heavy, except when X also made it the difficulty level of shock arrows, which can be much easier than Heavy or harder. But the UI will let you know what charts those are.
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Post #9 · Posted at 2012-07-22 02:51:48am 12.9 years ago

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Let's ignore Kakumei, because I can't really explain that, other than the fact that they were torn between creating a chart that truly reflected the song, and a chart that could realistically be full combo'd at 3x speed by players at the time. I don't think the OMES chart is playable anywhere but the OMES? The course that unlocks at the same time as the song just has you play the (harder) chart selectable in Heavy mode.

In MAX2, the idea wasn't "Songs can have 5 difficulty levels now. The new level is called Challenge". That was a concept that only came into it's own in Extreme, to get around the problem that Kakumei had one chart too many to display on the song select screen, and you had all these other songs which only had one chart.

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