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Post #1 · Posted at 2012-03-06 12:13:20pm 12.3 years ago

Offline -Viper-
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I'm taking an idea I saw at another forum. Post an opinion you have that is contrary to popular consensus regarding IIDX/DDR/Pop'n/Anything here.

My examples:
I don't really like most Bemani related music if you seperate it from the game it's meant to be played on.
I think Paranoia Hades Challenge is actually an okay chart.
I think the "License" sections of DDR songlists are by and large boring.

Post #2 · Posted at 2012-03-06 12:20:34pm 12.3 years ago

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I think Zukins are hot.

Also, I fucking love Love This Feelin'.

Post #3 · Posted at 2012-03-06 12:36:42pm 12.3 years ago

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"No."
nouvo nude and hiroshi watanabe are the best things to come to bemani
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Post #4 · Posted at 2012-03-06 12:39:27pm 12.3 years ago

Offline AceJay
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"bemanistyle♪"
SLAKE is a Noria pseudonym.

Post #5 · Posted at 2012-03-06 12:53:56pm 12.3 years ago

Offline Silver Spirit
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I don't understand the hate for ZONK or Rupesh Cartel.

Universe 2 > Universe 3 > Universe

Mystic Moon is Qrispy Joybox.

Post #6 · Posted at 2012-03-06 12:59:02pm 12.3 years ago

Offline Ashura96
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nouvo nude and hiroshi watanabe are the best things to come to bemani

how is this controversial?

Post #7 · Posted at 2012-03-06 01:11:33pm 12.3 years ago

Offline PaperSak
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Last updated: 2012-03-06 01:13pm
Spin the Disc is a bit overrated; for easy charts, I like Super Star much more.
DDR characters need a freaking manga. I only say that because I know they won't bother doing an anime.
I still want to know what the aprons and neckties thing was about some year(s) ago.
And a a physical fight between Rinon and dark Rinon.
... and Rage and Zero. It might last like ten seconds.
I hate the first half of Saber Wing Heavy's chart.
I don't get Yoshitaka hate. If his stuff all sounds like one song, that one song is pretty good to me.
Stepmania is not the same as DDR, and I would rather pay out the nose for more DDR games than convert to Stepmania.
I really want the DanceMasters characters to be in the sequel. Dave wears the coolest stuff... before you get DLC.

Post #8 · Posted at 2012-03-06 01:30:48pm 12.3 years ago

Offline aeubanks
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I don't understand the hate for Silver Dream.
(And it was the first song that I pretty much memorized the stepchart for because I couldn't pass it on DDR S, I played it so much that I memorized it)

Post #9 · Posted at 2012-03-06 01:36:51pm 12.3 years ago

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Quote: PaperSak
I don't get Yoshitaka hate. If his stuff all sounds like one song, that one song is pretty good to me.
This for both Yoshitaka and jun.

Choreography Mode in DDR 2010 was a welcome addition to the game, aside from Expert level.

I like GORGEOUS 2012. Not even ironically.

Post #10 · Posted at 2012-03-06 02:27:38pm 12.3 years ago

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I think music game fans are the primary reason for the genre's decline.

Post #11 · Posted at 2012-03-06 02:40:15pm 12.3 years ago

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I think music game fans are the primary reason for the genre's decline.

Yeah, we all suck. Roll Eyes

Post #12 · Posted at 2012-03-06 03:03:44pm 12.3 years ago

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I think music game fans are the primary reason for the genre's decline.

Yeah, we all suck. Roll Eyes

Sorry. Neutral I just hope people don't take this the wrong way.

Post #13 · Posted at 2012-03-06 03:26:46pm 12.3 years ago

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I think the interface used from MAX to Party Collection was the best interface DDR ever had.

I did not enjoy any of the Xbox 360 DDR titles.

Alice and SN2/X2 Emi are the best characters.

I think Pluto Relinquish has fun charts.

Shock arrows are stupid.

I appreciate beatmania CS US.

IIDX Happy Sky was the best theme the series has ever had.

I love pop'n music's colorful and upbeat themes.

Post #14 · Posted at 2012-03-06 03:32:59pm 12.3 years ago

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I think the interface used from MAX to Party Collection was the best interface DDR ever had. [Same]

I did not enjoy any of the Xbox 360 DDR titles. [Eh]

Alice and SN2/X2 Emi are the best characters. [AGREED]

I think Pluto Relinquish has fun charts. [lol]

Shock arrows are stupid. [Not controversial, everyone hates them. Or it could be just us two]

I appreciate beatmania CS US. [SAME]

IIDX Happy Sky was the best theme the series has ever had. [Puppy Face]

I love pop'n music's colorful and upbeat themes.
As from me:

I enjoyed DDR X US CS and DDR X2 US CS.

APPEND: Baby-lon is the most under appreciated DDR character, as well as Robo-Zukin.

G4m3rPr0, In some ways, i agree and disagree to your statement. that's all i am going to say.

Post #15 · Posted at 2012-03-06 04:12:39pm 12.3 years ago

Offline maxpowr90
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Quote: Arrows&Beats
Quote: PaperSak
I don't get Yoshitaka hate. If his stuff all sounds like one song, that one song is pretty good to me.
This for both Yoshitaka and jun.

Choreography Mode in DDR 2010 was a welcome addition to the game, aside from Expert level.

I like GORGEOUS 2012.

TBH, I would love for Wish (Eurobeat Mix) to be in DDR X-3.

I like Jun as an artist but her charts have become stale: spam crossovers with a slowdown.

For me: I don't like Asaki.

Post #16 · Posted at 2012-03-06 04:32:11pm 12.3 years ago

Offline Darkstorm091
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A few of the ones I have:
*flameshield up*

- Newer BEMANI games have better song lists. I look at old BEMANI and there isn't really a lot of stuff I like while all the recent stuff is much better.

- Related to the above, Hiroshi Watanabe and SLAKE are overrated. I like SLAKE for his SPARKER stuff and his newer stuff after he left BEMANI is pretty cool too, but all his old stuff, which all his fans seem to absolutely adore him for, is bland and repetitive for me.
As for Watanabe... never liked a song from him.

- HAPPY SKY is over-hyped and IIDX fans need to stop comparing every single style ever to it. Yes, I get it, it had Mei.

-YOSHITAKA is one of my favorite artists. Even though he may use the same synths and has the nickname of "Mr. 185", the songs he does are varied enough that I don't care if it uses the same instrumentation.

And lastly, and here's the big one for me:

- BEMANI fans are killing the genre with their elitism. This seems to be shifting away, but I still see it where if you can't pass a 10 (15 X-Scale)* you need to stfu and gtfo because ur such a n00b (Also known as "You Call THAT an Acheivement?" Syndrome).

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Post #17 · Posted at 2012-03-06 04:52:30pm 12.3 years ago

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Shock arrows are stupid.

I appreciate beatmania CS US.

I love pop'n music's colorful and upbeat themes.

I agree with all of those, but how exactly are they controversial?

Post #18 · Posted at 2012-03-06 05:08:29pm 12.3 years ago

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I don't really understand how great Spin the disc is.

I like Shock Arrow charts, only when they're not Pluto the First.

I like Yoshitaka's songs.
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Post #19 · Posted at 2012-03-06 05:44:49pm 12.3 years ago

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Another one I just realized: I absolutely love speed change/stop gimmicks. I can't get enough of them.

Post #20 · Posted at 2012-03-06 05:53:40pm 12.3 years ago

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-A part of me dies whenever I see a post saying Yoshitaka is PRASTIK DANCEFLOOR. If a post about that makes Baby Jesus cry then surely Baby Jesus is already drowning in his tears. *cough*outphase.com*cough*
-YAKSHA is the most underrated LK song. I hardly see any fanarts based on the song compared to the other LK songs. Also, I have yet to see a video of the song unlocked, making In The Blackest Den and NNRT the second and third underrated LK songs respectively as well.
-Nekomata Master and Seiya Murai are overrated. The former's songs sound the same and the latter is a poor man's wac. On what I said about Nekomata, it's ironic I like the February 9* duo's songs, but at least Nekomata somewhat appeals to me more than Seiya does.
Not a fan of good-cool.
-I tried to like BeForU's songs. Nope.

* - L.E.D. and Yoshitaka. Look it up.
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