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In The Groove 2 PC for StepMania 4.0 Themes and Installation Guide

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Post #1 · Posted at 2010-10-22 11:53:41pm 13.5 years ago

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Several people have asked for the StepMania theme that I play on because it's extremely well suited for home play. It's the theme from In The Groove PC, modified for ITG2, and attached to StepMania 4.0 to unlock it further (because the basic ITGPC doesn't let you play .mp3 files, and this way you can swap themes back to SM4 for all the DDR functions, or even Online functions still with the nice ITG noteskins). It's a nice theme, try it out.

http://www.mediafire.com/?d5zgsk9hbovoouk

How to Install:

1 Download the .zip file, unzip and run the StepMania-CVS-20060627.exe

Why?: To install StepMania 4.0.

2 Run the StepMania 4 program once, then exit.

Why?: To install some necessary folders that are created when you run the
program.

3 Rename your Noteskin folder to something like NoteskinSM4DefaultThemeONLY,
and place the folder named Noteskin from the .zip folder in your StepMania
directory.

Why?: You need to do this because the ITG theme EXPLICITLY needs these special
noteskins to work, they are 3-D noteskins and they are fantastic to play with,
you may want to keep the default noteskins in case you ever want to play in the
default StepMania4.0 theme, so it's best to just rename that file for now so you
can access it later if you want. If your happy with the ITG noteskins, then you
can just delete the noteskins that came with StepMania4.0.

4 Delete the folder named: Themes, replace it with the folder named: Themes
from the .zip file in your StepMania directory.

Why?: This has all the theme data you need, including the theme you just
deleted, but it's been renamed and a few more options are included. There's no
reason to keep the theme folder that came with StepMania4.0 at all.

5 From the Data folder in the .zip, you will want to copy/paste the Static.ini
and the two Splash images, into your Data folder in your StepMania directory.

Why?: I believe the Static.ini has some data necessary to run the theme
properly, such as ITG timing windows, the Splash images will just make the
loading screen seem more professional.

6 From the Save folder in the .zip, you will want to copy/paste the
Preferences.ini file into your Save folder in your StepMania direcotry.

Why?: I believe this also has some data necessary to run the theme properly.

The Save folder is probably going to be located in MyDocuments, so if you don't
see it in the StepMania directory, go to MyDocuments - StepMania.

Let me know if there's any problems. I removed the EDITOR because it doesn't
work well, if you want to create stepfiles, I highly recommend using another
build of StepMania, like some of the StepMania 3.9 builds, or 3.9+, or SM-SSC.

Some known bugs or problems are:
1 Subtitles will be wrapped around and going backwards in the song-select wheel.
2 Long and Marathon length songs will NOT be designated as such until AFTER you
complete the song, but when you scroll to another song this disappears.
3 Assist Tick will only work with Player 1 (even if Player 2 is playing alone).
4 CDTitles will not be shown.
5 There is only one options screen, I modified it to allow song-speed control
and the ability to add dancing characters.
6 Announcers that work with StepMania work just fine with StepMania 4.0, but
they will NOT work with the ITG theme. If you turn an announcer on in the
default theme, you will barely ever hear him in an ITG theme, and you'll have to
swap back to turn the announcer off.
7 If you have a course that uses 'mini' as an option, you need to change this to
'tiny' in ALL instances (or do I have that backwards?).
8 StepMania 4 does not support negative BPMs, if you have a file with negative
BPMs, sorry. If you don't understand, this was a bug in StepMania 3.9 that was
abused, it makes arrows disappear and reappear, it was FIXED in StepMania 4.0.
9 Video banners play twice as fast, it makes video banners off-sync, but it's
rare to have a file with video banners, and usually there's an option to choose
an image banner, go with the image banner please.
10 BGAnimations are re-centered, if you have a simfile with BGAnimations that
was made on StepMaina 3.9, it will be centered in the TopLeft corner of the
screen in SM4.0. It's best to just comment out BGAnimations, I don't know how
to re-center them.
11 Courses with more than 5 songs will work, but the song counter will STOP, it
will go blank.

These bugs are not really significant, some are annoying, others are intentional
(ITG was proud of not having an announcer).

Some of the amazing things you will be able to do are:
1 Survival mode - If you can get the survival courses from the official ITG
games, or ITG rebirth, they will work perfectly!!
2 Marathon mode - With all the CRAZY mods!!!
3 3-D arrows look gorgeous!!!
4 Working Tutorial
5 Working Beginner helper, you'll have an image of a dance pad when choosing
beginner mode, complete with a stop-light to show beginners the proper timing to
step on arrows.
6 3-D arrows look gorgeous!!!
7 Mines are perfectly implemented.
8 Rolls are perfectly implemented.
9 Even though it seems perfectly ITG, you can treat everything like a normal
StepMania build, so the game will recognize .mp3 files.
10 Workout modes work well.
11 Calorie counter works better on this game than any I have seen so far, it's a
little more realistic.
12 You can still swap over to the StepMania 4 default theme, and play Online, or
have your announcer, or play other modes that are not native to the ITG options
(best of both worlds, none of those bugs mentioned above (other than #8 #9 &
#10) are a problem in the default theme other than the default theme is supposed
to have a messed up EDITOR so you have been forewarned).
13 3-D arrows look gorgeous (you need to play with the SPACE mod on, to see them
in their 3-d glory).
14 This build is extremely STABLE, the only way I have ever crashed it was by
swapping back to the default stepmania4 theme, otherwise it has NEVER crashed on
me, I can't say that about ANY OTHER stepmania build I've tried, so I consider
this to be the most stable. I play about 5 hours a week and I have been using
this theme for 3 years or so.

I've slightly modified it over time to add in more functions and this is what I
currently use. I would love it if some of the bugs I mentioned could be fixed.

- Jeremiah

If you need any of the course files, I can provide them with the proper mod
names to make them function in this theme. I have all of ITG1 and ITG2 and ITG
Rebirth courses fixed.

The Tutorial simfile is here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?m0xwt3miu2dx04n

If it doesn't work, make sure you place it in a folder called "In The Groove" under SONGS. Leave it as NOT SELECTABLE because if you change that and pick it in game mode, when the song is complete you'll be kicked back to the title screen, it should only be chosen with the Tutorial selection in the main menu.

Post #2 · Posted at 2010-10-23 12:33:08am 13.5 years ago

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not to rain on the parade of 3D arrows, they're freaking awesome, but SM3.9 supports them. i dont remember where i got them, but i have 3D cel, metal, vivid, robot and flat from ITG for SM3.9... well, my brother has them. i just found out he hijacked my SM on his external (i had to format recently and lost mine).
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Post #3 · Posted at 2010-10-23 12:47:45am 13.5 years ago

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Quote: n00b_saib0t
not to rain on the parade of 3D arrows, they're freaking awesome, but SM3.9 supports them. i dont remember where i got them, but i have 3D cel, metal, vivid, robot and flat from ITG for SM3.9... well, my brother has them. i just found out he hijacked my SM on his external (i had to format recently and lost mine).
What about the mines, do they look good as well? Do they spin? Does your SM support ROLLS? Do they look good or are they glitched?

Sounds like you are really using SM3.95 or SM3.9+, I don't think the basic SM3.9 (like SM3.9rc4) works at all with 3-d arrows, and I know it doesn't support Rolls.

If your happy with the version you play on, that's the important thing.

Post #4 · Posted at 2010-10-23 12:58:24am 13.5 years ago

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well i use sm-ssc now, less demanding on my horrible processor in conjunction with my current theme. but thats not the point :p

but before SM3.9+ and SM3.9+redux i was using the 3D arrows, in which case no, rolls weren't supported. they're based on ITGPS2 arrows, from what i read. they don't support rolls, i will give you that, which causes a weird fall back effect where you get the blue DDR freeze version of rolls from the default note skin. they were glitchy at first, but after a few revisions the guy really got it right (aside from the rolls thing). i don't care much for rolls myself, and if i played a song that had them i just switched note skins, it never bothered me. anyway when i get a chance i'll swing by my brother's place and throw them on a flash drive and see about uploading them if you wanna try them out.
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Post #5 · Posted at 2010-10-23 08:11:48am 13.5 years ago

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Quote: n00b_saib0t
well i use sm-ssc now, less demanding on my horrible processor in conjunction with my current theme. but thats not the point :p

but before SM3.9+ and SM3.9+redux i was using the 3D arrows, in which case no, rolls weren't supported. they're based on ITGPS2 arrows, from what i read. they don't support rolls, i will give you that, which causes a weird fall back effect where you get the blue DDR freeze version of rolls from the default note skin. they were glitchy at first, but after a few revisions the guy really got it right (aside from the rolls thing). i don't care much for rolls myself, and if i played a song that had them i just switched note skins, it never bothered me. anyway when i get a chance i'll swing by my brother's place and throw them on a flash drive and see about uploading them if you wanna try them out.
Oh yeah, I remember all those pictures of people with 3D arrows in 3.9. I tried them and got glitched arrows, there were huge threads on how to fix them, but soon after I got this theme and viola everything works like a charm. But even then I don't believe anyone had the mines working properly. Anyways this is the only theme I know of the supports the ITG Survival mode.

Post #6 · Posted at 2010-10-23 08:16:07am 13.5 years ago

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stepmania CVS (cant remember the date), dubbed 3.95, supports survival. its literally just a branch of oni mode from DDR. all oni courses and survival courses show up in survival, any theme in a version of SM that supports it will do it, same with oni. playing oni courses on ITG looks weird though, it wasnt made for battery play.
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Post #7 · Posted at 2010-10-23 10:26:27am 13.5 years ago

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Quote: n00b_saib0t
stepmania CVS (cant remember the date), dubbed 3.95, supports survival. its literally just a branch of oni mode from DDR. all oni courses and survival courses show up in survival, any theme in a version of SM that supports it will do it, same with oni. playing oni courses on ITG looks weird though, it wasnt made for battery play.
Interesting, I can't play Oni mode unless I switch to the default SM4 theme.

Post #8 · Posted at 2010-10-23 10:44:05am 13.5 years ago

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the theme you use might not have the proper fall back info for oni like the 3.95 theme does. when i said it looked weird, i should have said "it grabs the DDR oni life bar from the default SMMAX theme and turns it sideways where the ITG lifebar goes".
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Post #9 · Posted at 2010-10-24 02:44:44am 13.5 years ago

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"8 StepMania 4 does not support negative BPMs, if you have a file with negative BPMs, sorry. If you don't understand, this was a bug in StepMania 3.9 that was abused, it makes arrows disappear and reappear, it was FIXED in StepMania 4.0."

FALSE. In 2006 they still hadn't been fixed.

Post #10 · Posted at 2010-10-24 02:49:55am 13.5 years ago

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Quote: Wan
"8 StepMania 4 does not support negative BPMs, if you have a file with negative BPMs, sorry. If you don't understand, this was a bug in StepMania 3.9 that was abused, it makes arrows disappear and reappear, it was FIXED in StepMania 4.0."

FALSE. In 2006 they still hadn't been fixed.

Interesting. I made an assumption since I don't keep any files with negative BPMs, so I've honestly never tried a file with a negative BPM, and I never will, but thanks for the clarification.

Post #11 · Posted at 2010-10-24 03:03:54am 13.5 years ago

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you should check out a few of them. off the top of my head, touch fuzzy get dizzy, spooky song, and powerthirst are fun charts that use negative BPM, although the last one isnt actually a song :p

but for the most part, yeah people use it without any idea how to make it work and it appears abused because of this. really, negative BPM is like rolls. anyone can implement it, but theres only like 4 people in all the internet that know how to do it right.
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Post #12 · Posted at 2010-11-18 11:12:39am 13.5 years ago

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Quote: n00b_saib0t
you should check out a few of them. off the top of my head, touch fuzzy get dizzy, spooky song, and powerthirst are fun charts that use negative BPM, although the last one isnt actually a song :p

but for the most part, yeah people use it without any idea how to make it work and it appears abused because of this. really, negative BPM is like rolls. anyone can implement it, but theres only like 4 people in all the internet that know how to do it right.
The negative BPM did NOT crash, but it did NOT work either, the game just scrolled through the arrows without glitching like SM3.9 does.
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