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Post #1 · Posted at 2010-09-18 06:44:52pm 13.6 years ago

Offline Nicolas
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I noticed that there's a "sortorder" notepad in Beware's DDR Extreme Theme which sorts the Group folders in order

can someone help me, I'm so curious on how I can do that
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Post #2 · Posted at 2010-09-19 12:05:59am 13.6 years ago

Offline AeronPeryton
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"Give me a steady beat."
I believe this only works on 3.9+ and/or SM4. Search the stepmania.com forums, I remember seeing a post that covered its use.

Post #3 · Posted at 2010-09-20 10:20:43am 13.6 years ago

Offline Midiman
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"Limbo!"
You may be referring to preferred sort, which allows you to sort all of the songs any way you wish.

I do not know if it is in bewares or not ( it may be ), but it is in 3.9+ ( if I remember correctly ), 3.95, and SM-SSC
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Post #4 · Posted at 2010-09-20 11:04:34am 13.6 years ago

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Post #5 · Posted at 2010-09-20 01:43:16pm 13.6 years ago

Offline Midiman
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"Limbo!"
A preferred sort goes into the theme folder, then Other as "SongManager PreferredSongs.txt"

example:
Default/Other/SongManager PreferredSongs.txt

the text file contains


---DDR 1st Mix
DDR 1st Mix/My Fire/
---DDR Extreme
DDR 8th Mix -Extreme-/Twinbee/
---Remixes
Remixes/Max 300 Cally & Juice Mix

---(Anything) defines a Group in Preferred Sort, the songs preceeding them adds them to that group.
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Post #6 · Posted at 2010-09-20 01:56:56pm 13.6 years ago

Offline neothe0ne
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Is there a variable/wildcard term which would tell sm-ssc to just include all songs found in that group, so each song doesn't have to be listed?

(for example, you might have a nice list of songs, but if you're missing a couple from a group, they won't show up at all - then have sm-ssc just dump them at the end of the list?)

Post #7 · Posted at 2010-09-20 07:27:22pm 13.6 years ago

Offline Midiman
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"Limbo!"
I don't think is at this point. I could be totally wrong in the fact that Beware's extreme uses this sort— I haven't used it in ages and I don't have it on me to test. if you can find it i'll gladly find how it did it so you can replicate it.
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Post #8 · Posted at 2010-09-20 07:37:58pm 13.6 years ago

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Quote: Midiman
A preferred sort goes into the theme folder, then Other as "SongManager PreferredSongs.txt"

example:
Default/Other/SongManager PreferredSongs.txt

the text file contains


---DDR 1st Mix
DDR 1st Mix/My Fire/
---DDR Extreme
DDR 8th Mix -Extreme-/Twinbee/
---Remixes
Remixes/Max 300 Cally & Juice Mix

---(Anything) defines a Group in Preferred Sort, the songs preceeding them adds them to that group.

where should I put this to customize song sorting?
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Post #9 · Posted at 2010-09-20 09:13:48pm 13.6 years ago

Offline Midiman
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"Limbo!"
The "Other" folder of where the current theme you're using resides, or if you want it to be applied to every theme, the Default theme's folder.
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Post #10 · Posted at 2010-09-20 09:41:51pm 13.6 years ago

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this is what I got right now

file name: SongManager PreferredSongs.txt

---Replicant D-action/
Replicant D-action/Pierce The Sky/
Replicant D-action/Sakura Sunrise/
Replicant D-action/Shiny World/
Replicant D-action/New Decade/
Replicant D-action/Anti-Matter/
Replicant D-action/POSSESSION/

now the way it shows is...
Anti-Matter
New Decade
Pierce The Sky
POSSESSION
Sakura Sunrise
Shiny World

i don't think its working for me. I'm using 3.95+

EDIT: Does this ignore the "alphabetical letter" first rule? ex: A, B, C, - C, B, A, etc.

Post #11 · Posted at 2010-09-20 10:48:40pm 13.6 years ago

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"Thanks for all your support."


Inside my DDR X2 folder...

beginning of Licensed songs (in yellow)
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between Licensed and New KOes (in light blue)
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between New KOes and CS DDR imports (in light green)
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between CS DDR imports and BEMANI imports (in violet)
http://img40.imagefra.me/img/img40/7/9/20/sillybearcub/f_12kbhdu66mum_883e483.jpg

between BEMANI imports and Boss Songs (in semi-red)
http://img40.imagefra.me/img/img40/7/9/20/sillybearcub/f_12kbhdu66mum_e03a468.jpg

between Boss Songs and ES/RDA songs (in pink)
http://img38.imagefra.me/img/img38/7/9/20/sillybearcub/f_12kbhdu66mum_0a10e76.jpg

between ES/RDA songs and EES song (in red)
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Post #12 · Posted at 2010-09-20 11:01:49pm 13.6 years ago

Offline Midiman
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"Limbo!"
Quote: typeCHAOS

EDIT: Does this ignore the "alphabetical letter" first rule? ex: A, B, C, - C, B, A, etc.
it may sort them alphabetically in 3.95, but it doesn't seem to in SM-SSC.

EDIT: in 3.95, Preferred sort is sorted by abc.
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Post #13 · Posted at 2010-09-20 11:08:17pm 13.6 years ago

Offline typeCHAOS
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to sillybear,
1. Are you using 3.95+ or SM-SSC?
2. Did you put the file in "other" or within the DDR X2 folder?

Post #14 · Posted at 2010-09-20 11:15:58pm 13.6 years ago

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"Thanks for all your support."


i'm using 3.9 + REDUX... i have my own way of sorting these songs but i consider it informal... This only applies to my X2 folder only. It is different from the way mentioned earlier by midiman.
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Post #15 · Posted at 2010-09-20 11:54:43pm 13.6 years ago

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*has an ah-ha moment* Methinks this this is the very instruction code I've been looking for. I'm going to test this out.

Post #16 · Posted at 2010-09-21 12:37:28am 13.6 years ago

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Quote: sillybear


i'm using 3.9 + REDUX... i have my own way of sorting these songs but i consider it informal... This only applies to my X2 folder only. It is different from the way mentioned earlier by midiman.

What did you do? I'd be interested in custom sorting on a per folder only basis.
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Post #17 · Posted at 2010-09-21 01:14:08am 13.6 years ago

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"Give me a steady beat."
As would I.

Post #18 · Posted at 2010-09-21 02:11:24am 13.6 years ago

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"Thanks for all your support."
you have to modify your folder's sm files...

in my case, i add at least 2 characters before the main title under TITLETRANSLIT code like:

#TITLETRANSLIT:[2 extra charcters] [main song title];

for licensed songs--- add 2 numerical characters in ascending order,
examples:

#TITLETRANSLIT:01 Be Your Wings;
#TITLETRANSLIT:02 Bonafide Lovin';

for New KOes--- no modification so it will be automatically arranged right after licensed songs

for CS DDR imports (displays after New KOes):
#TITLETRANSLIT:zv [main song title];

for BEMANI imports (displays after CS DDR imports):
#TITLETRANSLIT:zw [main song title];

for BOSS songs (displays after BEMANI imports):
#TITLETRANSLIT:zx [main song title];

for ES/RDA songs (displays after BOSS Songs):
#TITLETRANSLIT:zy [main song title];

for EES Songs (displays after ES/RDA songs):
#TITLETRANSLIT:zz [main song title];

misc: if you want a non-alphabetical order for RDA group just add a number after zy like:
#TITLETRANSLIT:zy1 Shiny World;
#TITLETRANSLIT:zy2 Sakura Sunrise;
#TITLETRANSLIT:zy3 Pierce The Sky;
#TITLETRANSLIT:zy4 Anti-Matter;
#TITLETRANSLIT:zy5 New Deacde;
#TITLETRANSLIT:zy6 POSSESSION;

Under Select Music Screen, press F9 button to switch between Native or Romanized text in songwheel banner to get rid of the first extra characters.

cons: they will alter the arrangement when you sort them by ABC aside from GROUP sort.

That's the reason i chose to apply that in my DDR X2 folder only.


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Post #19 · Posted at 2010-09-21 03:30:21am 13.6 years ago

Offline neothe0ne
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Well, if you'd prefer not to mess with your ABC song sort, you can do this instead for Preferred sort:
http://pastebin.com/55tH6P9z

(I realize I'm missing songs, also renamed/moved some songs. I couldn't find good videos of the arcade songlists.)

Problem is that you have to do it manually, sm is not going to catch any songs you forgot. Text Tools in foobar2000 helps a lot with this, actually. (import a folder of songs, export text as "DDR SuperNOVA2/%directory%")

I'm also not sure how you change text color.

Also, apparently you can only include a song once in Preferred Sort, or else funny things happen to your groups.

EDIT: If anyone knows where Poseidon(kors k mix) goes in the X2 songlist, that'd be awesome. All the youtube videos either cut off the music wheel (stop doing that!), or are using ABC sort.

Post #20 · Posted at 2010-09-21 03:44:41am 13.6 years ago

Offline Midiman
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"Limbo!"
sillybear I like your trick haha: very clever use of transliteration!

as for neo that's pretty nice of you to make a compilation of recent songs

( sidenote, you can use # as comments for preferred sort stuff )
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