Post #1 · Posted at 2010-04-15 01:44:58am 15.2 years ago
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So, I didn't see a thread on this, and I'm sure it's been asked before, but instead of resurrecting a dead thread I'd figure I'd try and start a new one. Feel free to delete this or tell me to if I should.
Anyhow, I've been playing IIDX for about 6 months, pretty regularly. I'm ok at 6's (I can get A's) and I can beat a 7 on occasion, but I just can't seem to move up? What tips can you guys offer me to get better?
Anyhow, I've been playing IIDX for about 6 months, pretty regularly. I'm ok at 6's (I can get A's) and I can beat a 7 on occasion, but I just can't seem to move up? What tips can you guys offer me to get better?
Post #2 · Posted at 2010-04-15 01:58:52am 15.2 years ago
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Quote: Ixion
So, I didn't see a thread on this, and I'm sure it's been asked before, but instead of resurrecting a dead thread I'd figure I'd try and start a new one. Feel free to delete this or tell me to if I should.
Anyhow, I've been playing IIDX for about 6 months, pretty regularly. I'm ok at 6's (I can get A's) and I can beat a 7 on occasion, but I just can't seem to move up? What tips can you guys offer me to get better?
Anyhow, I've been playing IIDX for about 6 months, pretty regularly. I'm ok at 6's (I can get A's) and I can beat a 7 on occasion, but I just can't seem to move up? What tips can you guys offer me to get better?
Are you playing with only one hand on the keys? If you are, then that's a pretty big wall to get past, especially if you're playing DistorteD (I know this from experience).
If you're playing with both hands on the keys or don't want to switch to doing so, the best thing you can do is try to Hard Clear as many 6's as you can to get better at hitting the keys without hitting excess or missing so much, so you can do better on the 7's. Also, though it should be obvious, play a large variety of 7's, since you never know which ones are easy and which ones are difficult.
Post #3 · Posted at 2010-04-15 02:19:07am 15.2 years ago
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Yeah, I got over the one hand bias when I started playing BMUS a while ago. (I don't count that as my actual IIDX starting time, because well, it's BMUS 
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But Hard Clearing stuff was not something I'm doing. I spent a metric fuckton on ever edition I could find, so I've got 12-16. Any suggestions where to start from there?
Thanks, btw.
)But Hard Clearing stuff was not something I'm doing. I spent a metric fuckton on ever edition I could find, so I've got 12-16. Any suggestions where to start from there?
Thanks, btw.
Post #4 · Posted at 2010-04-15 05:33:16am 15.2 years ago
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get more games. having more songs allows you to work with many different kinds of charts and patterns which helps soften the massive learning curve a little bit.
Post #5 · Posted at 2010-04-15 07:09:19am 15.2 years ago
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You have a pretty good selection there, all of the "modern" IIDX games with the 1 ~ 12 rating. I agree with Bolt. Not having a limited song selection means there will be more songs you like that you can play. Eventually, the list of songs you can play will grow, and it only get's better from there. Ok... now for tips...
*DEEP BREATH / LONG POST INCOMING*
Practice until your fingers fall off. Eventually, your fingers will just begin picking up the patterns that the game throws at you. It's probably not the best of tips, but hey, it's almost 100% effective.
This might not work for everyone, but acquire some soundtracks, and if you can't do that, I'd be willing to share some if you PM me. Listening to the songs while not playing might help you pick up on the nuances of the songs without having to focus on the bajillion notes flying down the screen.
Pick some songs you like that are level 7 (since that seems to be your uncomfortable range). Then, really push to learn the patterns. Since IIDX does have some basic patterns that repeat between songs, being able to learn them once well will make them familiar to you and can be bar-savers in unfamiliar songs.
Some song suggestions for practice (all are level 7) ...
HAPPY SKY:
Abyss -The Heavens Remix- [N] / Ok, this song is hard for a normal chart, but the rhythm and chord patterns in this chart are incredibly useful to know simply because they are all a bitch to learn. I am by no means suggesting you try to master this song first. I guarantee there are easier songs on this list that will be of more use initially.
PLEASE DON'T GO [H] / This song will definitely help you practice scratches if you have trouble with them, although the notechart may take some practice in itself.
MOON RACE [H] / Consider this a benchmark once you have done some serious practicing. The song is not hard at all except for a couple points where there are some really tough streams. This helps you read streams, even maybe beginning to sightread tougher charts.
DistorteD:
INFERNO [H] / This is an excellent song to practice rhythms and patterns as this song is chock-full of them. Also, the song is an easier 7 that is only truly difficult near the end wear a couple chords are thrown in.
wish [A] / This 7 is a little harder than most, but the slow BPM makes this a purely rhythm exercise. There's also some good chord and stream practice to be had here. If the chords are too much trouble, try coming back to this after mastering sections of Mind Mapping. INFERNO's rhythms may be of help here as well.
GOLD:
earth-like planet [H] / This is a great song to learn how to play two "tracks" at once in IIDX. One set of notes carrying the melody while another string of notes is carrying a harmony or drumbeat. This is trickier than some of the other songs here, so consider this one another "benchmark," like MOON RACE.
The Smile of You [H] / This song is the perfect song for transition phases. The patterns are simple and the song does not have a lot going on. When you get better and are breaking into the high 7 / low 8 range, revisit this song's another chart as it is one of the simplest out there.
Candy Galy [N] / Once your brave enough, Candy Galy's normal chart can provide quite the challenge once you have a handle on the turntable, moderately difficult streams, and carrying a drumbeat while the melody is playing in another stream of notes. However, I'd hold off on this one until you get past MOON RACE or earth-like planet.
DJ TROOPERS:
evergreen [H] / An excellent 7 with little going on until the very end (which may prove a last-note fail for a while). This chart is a true test of timing, as most of the song's notes do not fall on an exact beat, and require memorization of the song's melody and rhythms.
satfinal [H] / I prescribe satfinal for your DJ TROOPERS benchmark song. Lots of chords and plenty of streams to boot. The speed doesn't help either. This is a long-term goal rather than a short-term goal, as you should probably clear other songs on this list before moving on to this one.
Dazzlin' Darlin [H] / Not easy, but based on a simple principle. The melody and background synths are played almost the entire song along with the bass beats. Maybe use this song in training mode if it is too hard to play normally to spot and pick out certain patterns to practice as this is another that is packed with patterns to know.
EMPRESS (I'm only going to cover the Empress disc here... I suggest you explore the Premium best disc on your own):
Mind Mapping [H] / This is an interesting song as it has four sections to its chart. An easy opening based on strict rhythms, a syncopated middle with scratches and tricky short streams, a bridge where it returns to chords and a strict rhythm, and then a closing where it mashes everything together. Try separating them in training mode to get the feel of the song.
翼 [H] / Another song that is packing with rhythms and patterns that can be found in other songs in IIDX. Get's a little stream and chord heavy near the end, but that is just another goal to work towards!
HOUSE NATION [H] / You may very well hate this chart. This is definitely another benchmark song as it uses a bunch of tricks to up the difficulty. The chart is incredibly chord heavy and it is not scared to throw some streams or scratches your way. Play with caution.
Ok, that was incredibly long-winded. Well, I hope I was at least somewhat helpful to you. I don't know the exact location of your skill so I can guarantee just about nothing, but practice will always be your best bet!!
*DEEP BREATH / LONG POST INCOMING*
Practice until your fingers fall off. Eventually, your fingers will just begin picking up the patterns that the game throws at you. It's probably not the best of tips, but hey, it's almost 100% effective.
This might not work for everyone, but acquire some soundtracks, and if you can't do that, I'd be willing to share some if you PM me. Listening to the songs while not playing might help you pick up on the nuances of the songs without having to focus on the bajillion notes flying down the screen.
Pick some songs you like that are level 7 (since that seems to be your uncomfortable range). Then, really push to learn the patterns. Since IIDX does have some basic patterns that repeat between songs, being able to learn them once well will make them familiar to you and can be bar-savers in unfamiliar songs.
Some song suggestions for practice (all are level 7) ...
HAPPY SKY:
Abyss -The Heavens Remix- [N] / Ok, this song is hard for a normal chart, but the rhythm and chord patterns in this chart are incredibly useful to know simply because they are all a bitch to learn. I am by no means suggesting you try to master this song first. I guarantee there are easier songs on this list that will be of more use initially.
PLEASE DON'T GO [H] / This song will definitely help you practice scratches if you have trouble with them, although the notechart may take some practice in itself.
MOON RACE [H] / Consider this a benchmark once you have done some serious practicing. The song is not hard at all except for a couple points where there are some really tough streams. This helps you read streams, even maybe beginning to sightread tougher charts.
DistorteD:
INFERNO [H] / This is an excellent song to practice rhythms and patterns as this song is chock-full of them. Also, the song is an easier 7 that is only truly difficult near the end wear a couple chords are thrown in.
wish [A] / This 7 is a little harder than most, but the slow BPM makes this a purely rhythm exercise. There's also some good chord and stream practice to be had here. If the chords are too much trouble, try coming back to this after mastering sections of Mind Mapping. INFERNO's rhythms may be of help here as well.
GOLD:
earth-like planet [H] / This is a great song to learn how to play two "tracks" at once in IIDX. One set of notes carrying the melody while another string of notes is carrying a harmony or drumbeat. This is trickier than some of the other songs here, so consider this one another "benchmark," like MOON RACE.
The Smile of You [H] / This song is the perfect song for transition phases. The patterns are simple and the song does not have a lot going on. When you get better and are breaking into the high 7 / low 8 range, revisit this song's another chart as it is one of the simplest out there.
Candy Galy [N] / Once your brave enough, Candy Galy's normal chart can provide quite the challenge once you have a handle on the turntable, moderately difficult streams, and carrying a drumbeat while the melody is playing in another stream of notes. However, I'd hold off on this one until you get past MOON RACE or earth-like planet.
DJ TROOPERS:
evergreen [H] / An excellent 7 with little going on until the very end (which may prove a last-note fail for a while). This chart is a true test of timing, as most of the song's notes do not fall on an exact beat, and require memorization of the song's melody and rhythms.
satfinal [H] / I prescribe satfinal for your DJ TROOPERS benchmark song. Lots of chords and plenty of streams to boot. The speed doesn't help either. This is a long-term goal rather than a short-term goal, as you should probably clear other songs on this list before moving on to this one.
Dazzlin' Darlin [H] / Not easy, but based on a simple principle. The melody and background synths are played almost the entire song along with the bass beats. Maybe use this song in training mode if it is too hard to play normally to spot and pick out certain patterns to practice as this is another that is packed with patterns to know.
EMPRESS (I'm only going to cover the Empress disc here... I suggest you explore the Premium best disc on your own):
Mind Mapping [H] / This is an interesting song as it has four sections to its chart. An easy opening based on strict rhythms, a syncopated middle with scratches and tricky short streams, a bridge where it returns to chords and a strict rhythm, and then a closing where it mashes everything together. Try separating them in training mode to get the feel of the song.
翼 [H] / Another song that is packing with rhythms and patterns that can be found in other songs in IIDX. Get's a little stream and chord heavy near the end, but that is just another goal to work towards!
HOUSE NATION [H] / You may very well hate this chart. This is definitely another benchmark song as it uses a bunch of tricks to up the difficulty. The chart is incredibly chord heavy and it is not scared to throw some streams or scratches your way. Play with caution.
Ok, that was incredibly long-winded. Well, I hope I was at least somewhat helpful to you. I don't know the exact location of your skill so I can guarantee just about nothing, but practice will always be your best bet!!
Post #6 · Posted at 2010-04-15 09:17:19am 15.2 years ago
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OMiY, thank you soooooo much. I just read the whole thing and I'll get right to practicing. I'm gonna working on the HAPPY SKY and DistorteD charts first.
Thanks again!
(P.S. The advice on playing "two songs at once" is incredibly helpful. I was wondering how you guys did that.)
Thanks again!
(P.S. The advice on playing "two songs at once" is incredibly helpful. I was wondering how you guys did that.)
Post #7 · Posted at 2010-04-20 06:33:18am 15.2 years ago
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My only problem with Happy Sky is the timing. Timing is incredibly late as compared to Distorted, Gold, DJ Troopers, and Empress.
Post #8 · Posted at 2010-04-21 01:03:13am 15.2 years ago
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If it's any help to anyone, while I was learning IIDX I noticed that certain versions seemed to be slightly preferable for getting started with certain difficulty levels:
> DJ Troopers helped me to get started with level 5 and 6 charts
> Gold helped me to get started with level 7 charts, as well as getting to the point at which I could earn extra stages
> Empress seemed to have the best range of 'starter' level 8 songs, as well as getting me started with level 9s
Personally, I would recommend those as the starting versions for each level, based on my own experiences as a learner. Of course, I can't guarantee that they'll work for everyone, but they may be worth a try. Above all though, practise is the key - once you've got started at a certain level with one version, try songs at the same range on others. Some versions are bound to be more difficult than others, but the experience should certainly be useful.
> DJ Troopers helped me to get started with level 5 and 6 charts
> Gold helped me to get started with level 7 charts, as well as getting to the point at which I could earn extra stages
> Empress seemed to have the best range of 'starter' level 8 songs, as well as getting me started with level 9s
Personally, I would recommend those as the starting versions for each level, based on my own experiences as a learner. Of course, I can't guarantee that they'll work for everyone, but they may be worth a try. Above all though, practise is the key - once you've got started at a certain level with one version, try songs at the same range on others. Some versions are bound to be more difficult than others, but the experience should certainly be useful.