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Post #1 · Posted at 2008-08-07 11:16:55am 15.5 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
Japanese Learners Unite!

Do you study Japanese? If not, are you interested in starting? Got study tips? Post discussion related to learning the Japanese language here!

Just got my Japanese for Busy People III in the mail today, I've looked through it, but haven't started doing any work in it yet. Looks pretty much like II for the most part. I also have a huge Kanji book that I whipped out $30 for that I almost never use, besides memorizing Kanji during class and junk. >_>

Anyways, any fellow Japanese studiers on the forums?



Free Resources

Let's Learn Japanese Basic Episode 1 A (All other parts can be found on YouTube by searching) (Video series covering basic to intermediate Japanese. 52 Episodes total.)

Japanese Basics @ TJP (Introduction to Japanese and learning the Kana)

Grammar Lessons @ TJP (Several lessons on basic Japanese grammar.)

Japanese Learning @ about.com (Some basic lessons, also has some culture info)

Renshuu (Reviewing and memorizing Vocab and Kanji. Kana knowledge required)

Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese (Kana and grammar lessons. Moderate amount of Kanji needed to use the latter)

JapanesePod101. (Extensive audio lessons. Other content available for paying subscribers)





Post #2 · Posted at 2008-08-07 11:33:35am 15.5 years ago

Offline PyroManiacX
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"Not dead yet!"
I always wanted to study Japanese, since my Dad & Step-mom got Rosetta Stone for Korean, I wanted to get the Japanese version of it
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Post #3 · Posted at 2008-08-07 11:39:06am 15.5 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
Quote: Xepher2010
I always wanted to study Japanese, since my Dad & Step-mom got Rosetta Stone for Korean, I wanted to get the Japanese version of it

Eh...Rosetta Stone ain't great. Well, I don't know if it's great or not, but it doesn't really work for Japanese as far as I'm concerned.

It was actually one of the first things I used when I was studying Japanese. Here's how the first lesson went.

"Otokonoko. Aha! That means boy *click on picture*."
"Booru. Hmm, that sounds like 'ball' *click*. Yup!"
"Otokonoko to Booru. Hmm...Well, here's a picture of a boy and a ball! 'to' must be 'and'! Whoo! This is great"
*next screen*
"Otokono no ue ni aru booru"
"...Whut."

And it continued like that until I quit. I recently got Version 3 from a friend, and it's a bit better, though I still wouldn't recommend it as a stand-alone resource.

For some free stuff, try searching for the "Let's Learn Japanese Basic" video series on YouTube. Although I guess technically it's 'pirated', since it's was a TV program and what-not, it hasn't aired for years and there are no more videos for sale of it.

Post #4 · Posted at 2008-08-07 11:43:24am 15.5 years ago

Offline PyroManiacX
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"Not dead yet!"
Quote: piepiepie75
Quote: Xepher2010
I always wanted to study Japanese, since my Dad & Step-mom got Rosetta Stone for Korean, I wanted to get the Japanese version of it

Eh...Rosetta Stone ain't great. Well, I don't know if it's great or not, but it doesn't really work for Japanese as far as I'm concerned.

It was actually one of the first things I used when I was studying Japanese. Here's how the first lesson went.

"Otokonoko. Aha! That means boy *click on picture*."
"Booru. Hmm, that sounds like 'ball' *click*. Yup!"
"Otokonoko to Booru. Hmm...Well, here's a picture of a boy and a ball! 'to' must be 'and'! Whoo! This is great"
*next screen*
"Otokono no ue ni aru booru"
"...Whut."
They had a kiosk stand where they had it & it happened to me, but it was something with juice & they did this really long sentence which really confused me Confused
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Post #5 · Posted at 2008-08-07 12:08:15pm 15.5 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
I was bored, so I added some links to the first post for beginners who are looking to get into Japanese. Although they can appeal to beginners, many of the links go into more advanced Japanese too, so even intermediate learners can take advantage. They are all free, but JapanesePod101 will give you some supplements to the audio lessons if you subscribe, but the audio lessons are free.

If anyone has any Japanese questions as well, feel free to post them here. I'll (And maybe some of the other sneaky Japanese learners on the forum) do my best to help out.

Post #6 · Posted at 2008-08-07 02:07:13pm 15.5 years ago

Offline melink14
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Ah, finally a thread in my current region.

The Japanese classes at my school use "Japanese: The Spoken Language" which is really good for what it has but a bit dated. I probably wouldn't recommend it without a teacher to clarify bits.

When my book's fail me, or I need to search for random bits of grammar, Tae Kim's Guide is pretty amazing. Also a google search for "[bit of Japanese grammar] grammar" is amazing for finding other resources explaining various Japanese grammar bits.

I think the most important part of learning Japanese is listening to lots of Japanese. The podcasts piepiepie mentioned seem good.

Post #7 · Posted at 2008-08-25 02:06:50pm 15.5 years ago

Offline mageman17
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"MAGGLE"
It's been four years since I decided to try and learn japanese, and this is where I start?
The fates are against me.

I do plan on going (and maybe working) in Japan on the near future and I wanted to learn japanese for that. Due to the nature of my course (Information Technology) I won't be taking a japanese language course (only for HRM and Tourism students in my college).

I'll try and learn the language with those links and books and the so-called "Rosetta Stone."

Thanks for helping me!
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Post #8 · Posted at 2008-08-25 03:03:56pm 15.5 years ago

Offline Kon
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hey, I have been wanting to learn for a while now. I might do foreign exchange my senior year, so Japanese is a must for me.

I just dont know what I should do to learn easily, and not get bored in five seconds...

Post #9 · Posted at 2008-08-25 04:47:55pm 15.5 years ago

Offline mageman17
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"MAGGLE"
I think you should start with "Traveler's Japanese." You know, basic greetings like good morning,
hello, goodbye, etc.

And for the japanese literate, what does Nijiro, Banzai and Nippon mean and how do you say "Happy Birthday", "Good Afternoon", "Good Evening" and "Excuse Me" in japanese?
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Post #10 · Posted at 2008-08-25 06:59:51pm 15.5 years ago

Offline nggakmirip
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Quote: mageman17
I think you should start with "Traveler's Japanese." You know, basic greetings like good morning,
hello, goodbye, etc.

And for the japanese literate, what does Nijiro, Banzai and Nippon mean and how do you say "Happy Birthday", "Good Afternoon", "Good Evening" and "Excuse Me" in japanese?

nijiiro = 虹色 right?

niji = rainbow
iro = color

Banzai is usually equivalent to Geronimo in English.... or like "Yeah", so I don't think it has any true meaning (although I'm pretty sure there is one, I'm just not good enough yet)

Nippon = 日本 = Japan

Good Afternoon = こにちわ = Konichiwa (Probably there is another one but I think this will do too)
Good Evening = こんばんわ = Konbanwa
Excuse Me = すみません = Sumimasen

I forgot what is Happy Birthday, err..... おめでと? (Omedeto?)

I'm still learning so I'm prone to mistakes too....

Will you help Wikipe-tan?

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Post #11 · Posted at 2008-08-25 07:04:16pm 15.5 years ago

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Omedetou is Congratulations.

Birthday is Tanjoubi I think. According to excite.co.jp, it's お誕生日おめでとう: o tanjoubi omedetou.

Post #12 · Posted at 2008-08-25 09:13:12pm 15.5 years ago

Offline mageman17
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"MAGGLE"
Arigato for your replies (did I say it right?)!!!
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Post #13 · Posted at 2008-08-26 11:32:27pm 15.5 years ago

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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
Quote: nggakmirip

Good Afternoon = こにちわ = Konichiwa (Probably there is another one but I think this will do too)


こんにちは (Konnichiwa) actually Smile. I don't think you HAVE to use は at the end, as I've seen it used with わ a many time, but I think it's grammatically correct or whatever.

Quote: ΩOMEGAΩ
hey, I have been wanting to learn for a while now. I might do foreign exchange my senior year, so Japanese is a must for me.

I just dont know what I should do to learn easily, and not get bored in five seconds...

Try the video links I provided in the first post, a lot of people find those enjoyable to watch.

Post #14 · Posted at 2008-08-26 11:39:22pm 15.5 years ago

Offline JunK
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Actually, it is こんにちは with は pronounced as "wa", but using わ in wrong.Puppy Face

Post #15 · Posted at 2008-08-26 11:44:44pm 15.5 years ago

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I'm taking Japanese I at the local college, and it's going fine so far. Smile I've learned the 46 basic hiragana so far, and learned how to say:

Yes
No
I understand
I don't understand
Good morning
Good afternoon
Good evening
"We are meeting for the first time. I am ____. Please be good to me!"
"What is ____?"
I have a question
Repeat yourself
Wait a moment
Excuse me
Thank you
*someone drops something* "Here you go." "Thanks!" "It's nothing."

I know some vocabulary and a few country names, too.
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Post #16 · Posted at 2008-09-02 03:12:16pm 15.5 years ago

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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
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So I was wondering if someone could help me with this grammar point. Example sentence:

"私はこのりんごを食べるところだ。”

From what I've been able to tell, this translates as "I'm going to eat this apple", but I'm a bit confused on the implication of it. Does the ところ say "It's going to happen at some point in time" or does it specifically imply that the action is about to happen?

Thankies~

Post #17 · Posted at 2008-09-02 10:18:18pm 15.5 years ago

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Quote: piepiepie75
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So I was wondering if someone could help me with this grammar point. Example sentence:

"私はこのりんごを食べるところだ。”

From what I've been able to tell, this translates as "I'm going to eat this apple", but I'm a bit confused on the implication of it. Does the ところ say "It's going to happen at some point in time" or does it specifically imply that the action is about to happen?

Thankies~
It can mean at some point in time, or in some place. I believe it's (usually) the first one.

I'm also learning Japanese, though on my own as opposed to a class. Few public universities in NY offer the class.

Post #18 · Posted at 2008-09-04 08:54:01am 15.5 years ago

Offline mageman17
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"MAGGLE"
I'm also learning japanese on my own, I don't think my university will let some IT student like me take a japanese language course which is meant for tourism students.

Oh and how do you say "Let's Hurry", "I don't know" and "Today is my birthday."
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Thank you so much, Lord Toon!

Post #19 · Posted at 2008-09-04 09:04:32am 15.5 years ago

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"キナヨ"
Quote: Goldensunboy
I'm taking Japanese I at the local college, and it's going fine so far. Smile I've learned the 46 basic hiragana so far, and learned how to say:

Yes - Hai
No - Iie (i-i-e)
I understand
I don't understand
Good morning - Ohio
Good afternoon - Konichiwa?
Good evening
"We are meeting for the first time. I am ____. Please be good to me!"
"What is ____?"
I have a question
Repeat yourself
Wait a moment
Excuse me
Thank you - Arigato, or for TYVM, Domo Arigato, or for TYVM Mr. Robot - Domo Arigato Mr. Roboto. XD
*someone drops something* "Here you go." "Thanks!" "It's nothing."

I know some vocabulary and a few country names, too.

There, I answered some of your test! XD
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Post #20 · Posted at 2008-09-04 09:23:57am 15.5 years ago

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Ok, ive got a question. What does chotto mean? A friend of mine spams it and it pisses me off.
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