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Post #1 · Posted at 2008-06-06 01:42:40am 15.9 years ago

Offline al2k4
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Hey people,

This is for an upcoming SN pack (with 300+ songs) I'm gonna release and I want it to be as AC accurate as possible. Smile

Tasks

Audio

Done

Banners

Done

Charts

Done

Backgrounds

Needs finishing... - Refer to this page and this thread.

Sync

In Progress

Song Titles and Artists

Done

I need someone to get me either:

A video with the song list of the entire SuperNOVA1 or SuperNOVA2 song list so that you can see the song title and artists CLEARLY.

Notice I emphasised CLEARLY, so make sure you can read all the song titles before uploading it to YouTube or whatever as I don't want to make guesses at the spelling.

OR

A typed song list with the ABSOLUTE spelling of the song titles and names.

What I mean by that is I want titles and artists of how it's spelt in the game, for example:

LOVE AT FIRSTSIGHT(TwinMasterplan Mix)

Notice how the words are stuck together.

Any help would be appreciated, as UK arcades seem to be arch-enemies with people with camcorders and throw people out who record footage. Annoyed

Post #2 · Posted at 2008-06-06 01:45:23am 15.9 years ago

Offline PyroManiacX
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What about phone recordings? Can I do that?
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Post #3 · Posted at 2008-06-06 01:47:51am 15.9 years ago

Offline al2k4
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Depends on your arcade if that's what you mean.

And phone recordings? Are you sure they'll be clear enough to make out all the spaces and capitalisations and stuff?

Post #4 · Posted at 2008-06-06 01:55:11am 15.9 years ago

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"Not dead yet!"
My arcade dosent care about recordings.

Yeah I tested it out & its good to me. I may go sometime when I feel the urge to
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Post #5 · Posted at 2008-06-06 01:57:11am 15.9 years ago

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Alright cool. Anyone else is welcome to record too. Smile

Post #6 · Posted at 2008-06-06 02:10:30am 15.9 years ago

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You mean the Game Database doesn't have 100% accuracy, or you want to double-check it? o.o

Good to see I'm not the only one with this in mind, though. My SN1/SN2/4th+ folders are already arcade-accurate, and I moved the files in from the other folders to remove duplicates. (SN1 is split into five folders: crossovers, Extreme, home versions, licenses and new KOs. SN2 has everything that wasn't in SN1). On the other hand, since it's my own files I've added in extra charts, like from Ultramix, and cool ones from 5th Mix Data Bank.
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Post #7 · Posted at 2008-06-06 02:20:38am 15.9 years ago

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Yeah, they all need double checking.

Post #8 · Posted at 2008-06-06 05:59:43am 15.9 years ago

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"o_O?"
Umm.

By syncing, do you mean you are going to correct some errors in the charts? There are some that are missing arrows, miscellaneous freeze arrow, etc.

Like FELM Expert Doubles are missing 32nd gallops (I'm guessing you used SN's edit mode; it doesn't show 32nd arrows for some reason)

FAXX Challenge is missing one arrow. It's like finding a needle in a haystack, that one. Annoyed

CHAOS is missing a pair of stops that throw off the entire step chart, giving it the orange note syndrome, rather than the yellow note syndrome that the original has.

If I'm pointing out the obvious, I apologize.
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Post #9 · Posted at 2008-06-06 06:09:33am 15.9 years ago

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Umm.

By syncing, do you mean you are going to correct some errors in the charts? There are some that are missing arrows, miscellaneous freeze arrow, etc.

Like FELM Expert Doubles are missing 32nd gallops (I'm guessing you used SN's edit mode; it doesn't show 32nd arrows for some reason)

FAXX Challenge is missing one arrow. It's like finding a needle in a haystack, that one. Annoyed

CHAOS is missing a pair of stops that throw off the entire step chart, giving it the orange note syndrome, rather than the yellow note syndrome that the original has.

If I'm pointing out the obvious, I apologize.

Technically, CHAOS goes green for most of it, on the console, so orange (32nd?) note syndrome in SM would be correct, giving a completely laughable effect when played with CUT. Might be useful to make a video of it scrolling by at x8, so that you can see how many 32nds apart the notes are. I could do this if needed.

Oh, and yeah, edit mode is NOT a valid source for anything that goes green, just look at what it does to Bag. Training mode is better, with a video of a high speed mod play for the thickly clustered parts.
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Post #10 · Posted at 2008-06-06 06:17:07am 15.9 years ago

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MP3s are completely redone in 192kbps, so of course that needs re-syncing.

Charts are from actual AC data and converting using Sanxion's tools, I can get 100% accurate files. Smile

Post #11 · Posted at 2008-06-06 06:20:38am 15.9 years ago

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"o_O?"
Not really.

CHAOS only goes green after the 2 jump stops. It's yellow for most of the beginning and if you go to training mode, the moment the song starts, it's not moving. Then it moves for like 1/2 a measure and stops again. After that, you'll get the stop that shows the arrows and THEN you start stepping.

You should do that video to prove me wrong (or right) and help with getting the two unnecessary stops in the beginning for "authentic" purposes. ;)

Edit: o_O? So the home version is "wrong"?
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Post #12 · Posted at 2008-06-06 06:24:06am 15.9 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Okay, so I was wrong to say "mostly" green. If al2k4 can get actual AC data though, there's no point in doing the video. I dislike CHAOS, so I rarely play it.
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Post #13 · Posted at 2008-06-06 07:55:08am 15.9 years ago

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I have played CHAOS OMES a ton, and I'm pretty sure it does stop at the beginning and then start up right when the first bass sounds in the music start. I've noticed that the judgement field doesn't blink at all, then it starts blinking when that first bass sound hits.

And what is Al using to interpret this AC data? An emulator? Hex editor?

Also, torrent plz! Tongue
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Post #14 · Posted at 2008-06-06 09:04:36am 15.9 years ago

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All I know is that TIERRA BUENA has 2 spaces on SuperNOVA.

Post #15 · Posted at 2008-06-06 09:06:02am 15.9 years ago

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The current CHAOS simfile is mostly correct. The main thing it lacks are the two stops at the beginning. But, I've fought with it enough to know that it at least is representative of the actual song in terms of what must be stepped and when. I remember the rush to sim that song when it first came out. What a nightmare. >_> I'm done editing that beast.

While this is for SuperNOVA, I've also noticed that on SuperNOVA2, SUNRISE (JASON NEVINS REMIX) the second stop is an 8th too early. It is, however, the same length, so the song is still off an entire 8th. Just noticed this the other day.
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Post #16 · Posted at 2008-06-07 01:20:10am 15.9 years ago

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Still need that SN songlist video? I could go take a good quality one with all 304(?) songs, and quickly record the beginning of CHAOS for clarity, and have it uploaded in about 3 hours.

Then embed the YT video with the &fmt=18 quality setting. Smile
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Post #17 · Posted at 2008-06-07 02:24:46am 15.9 years ago

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Yeah I still need the video. Smile

Post #18 · Posted at 2008-06-07 02:48:25am 15.9 years ago

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CHAOS does have two stops before any arrows come up. I double-checked using SN US to make sure.

EDIT: For the songs originally from the Ultramixes (i.e.: GORGEOUS 2012, Monkey Punk), will you include the charts as they appeared in SN AC, or the originals as they appeared in (using the examples above) Festival or Ultramix 2?

As far as I can tell, GORGEOUS 2012 has completely different steps in SN AC from either Ultramix or Festival, which led to me asking this question.

Post #19 · Posted at 2008-06-07 05:27:44am 15.9 years ago

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AC of course. Hence why I said AC accurate. Tongue

Post #20 · Posted at 2008-06-07 09:11:59am 15.9 years ago

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It's been for 4 hours and it's still not done uploading... it's 191 MB and uploading through a wireless connection directly off an SD card, so that's probably why. I can probably embed the video tomorrow.

By the way Al, how come [EMBED] tags don't work? Trying to post anything that uses an [EMBED] and [/EMBED] tag (properly) makes it say "invalid [EM] or [/EM] tags", and the post doesn't get uploaded. (hitting back to go back to my reply page also ersases the contents I was about to post ARGHDSFARGEG) I have to use an [OBJECT] tag, which is like 10 times harder to use. Mad
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