[SM 5.1-new / OutFox LTS and Alpha V] DDR A3 Theme

There seems to be a minor issue with the scoring system where scores may sometimes be less than 1,000,000 or even exceed 1,000,000 points when a marvelous full combo is achieved. This was tested with AutoPlayCPU on. What could be the issue?

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Does the chart contain any shock arrows? They count towards the score and may be going over or below the score, if the shock arrows are not a multiple of four. Regular mine patterns cause this bug, you must play an official KONAMI chart

The charts I used in the screenshot include shock arrows. I believe the theme works best with charts that have shock arrows in multiples of 4 and don't include those wacky mine patterns (for example: official charts by Konami). I tested another chart, which doesn't have any shock arrows, and it reached 1,000,000 points without any problems.

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I checked Scripts/05 Score.lua and I found out that the function GetTotalItems didn't add value of mines to total... hence it sometimes exceeds above 1million when getting PFC/MFC.

Actually the system is located in Other/_StatsEngine Modules.lua and it's NOT DESIGNED for any normal StepMania mine patterns, it only works with the patterns of 4 or 8 "mines", like the Shock Arrows from Konami original stepcharts, not anything that's a StepMania pad chart.

Example of how scoring works in Floating Flare (CSP 19 pass):

@piotr25691 I'm probably doing something wrong but I got a lot of errors when trying to run your theme and build.

I've downloaded the latest StepMania 5.1b2 and installed.
Downloaded your compiled OpenDDR release and replaced the files inside the Program Folder
Got the Legacy A3 KIT and extracted on the StepMania 5.1b2 install directory replacing everything.

Everytime that I open your build it complains about:
* Metric DancingCamera is missing (5 of them)
* Metric CodecDetector is missing (2 of them)

Also how to get to the menus to change resolution and things like that? F2 does not work for me.

It shouldn't have told you to replace any metric files. You only need to replace the binaries.

If it told you to replace any theme files, don't replace them. You are installing a new theme and that shouldn't be the case.

You don't necessarily need the "RandomMovies" and "Songs" (it does not contain any songs).


This thread has been created. https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/thread?threadid=11773

Good to know that piotr's fork of the A3 theme now has the correct fonts for the difficulty numbers and stage information, but there are some issues pending fixes:

1. When playing any song named Outbreak, it will display a "PRAY FOR ALL" message upon clearing it. However, the only Outbreak song that actually fits this special cleared message is the RG+Ice song from the DDR XX pack (which was previously named COVID). As such, it can be weird playing USAO's Outbreak and getting this special cleared message even though it is thematically completely different from the RG+Ice one. In the 04 Other.lua file, the function ClearedToLoad() currently does not specify that if the song played is titled Outbreak, then the artist has to be RG+Ice. This issue is fixed on Curilang's September 2024 update of his A3 theme.

2. Both the 07 StagesManager.lua and SongManager PreferredSongs.txt files do not list any of the remaining new songs from DDR A3 and GRAND PRIX, as well as any of the new songs from DDR WORLD. Even though this theme is meant to emulate DDR A3, DDR GRAND PRIX, which still uses A3's interface, allows the player to play several songs from DDR WORLD; thus, DDR WORLD songs in GRAND PRIX support 3D dance stages (e.g. Gravity Collapse, Robot Footwork). Additionally, some songs play on the wrong stage (e.g. Blue Rain playing on CRYSTALDIUM when it should play on CYBER), and a few other songs do not load their assigned stages at all due to having a song folder name that is different from what they currently have in the Zenius official simfiles (e.g. Dandandou, KISS KISS KISS Akiba Koubou MIX).

3. When playing the Replicant D-action or Replicant D-ignition songs with the DanceStages system enabled, they automatically select either Rinon or a variant of her and override the player's current character selection. Similarly, the theme also automatically selects Disco's DDR 1st model when playing DDR MEGAMIX, even though this behavior does not actually exist in arcade DDR or GRAND PRIX whatsoever. The only non-event songs in arcade DDR (X-A3) that actually select specific characters (excluding songs with special choreographies) are HOW TO PLAY (DDR X Disco) and Lesson by DJ (DDR A Rage). I fixed this by removing the Replicant D-action and Replicant D-ignition songs (as well as DDR MEGAMIX) from "function SpecialChar()" in the 07 DanceStages.lua file and replacing them with HOW TO PLAY and Lesson by DJ.

4. When selecting a song that has a random BPM display (i.e. it has the #DISPLAYBPM:*; tag in its .sm/.ssc file), the BPM shown in the music select screen is the song's actual BPM, rather than a repeating three-digit number rapidly cycling from 000 to 999. The latter behavior can be seen in DDR games since SuperNOVA (e.g. when selecting a boss song or EXTRA EXCLUSIVE song on EXTRA STAGE), and the XX--STARLiGHT--twopointzero theme has this behavior for the BPM display too. Additionally, A3 and GRAND PRIX use what appears to be DFHSGothic-W9 for the BPM numbers, whereas both versions of the A3 theme don't.

5. The "READY" and "HERE WE GO" behavior appears to be off when playing songs with a starting BPM of 240 or higher; for instance, when playing New Millennium (which starts at 300 BPM and has the notes start on measure 5), the "READY" message appears right away upon loading into gameplay even though it should appear on measure 2, and "HERE WE GO" appears earlier and for longer than usual when it should appear at measure 3 for only three beats (but thankfully not long enough to block the arrows right before they can hit the Step Zone). The behavior for showing the jacket on-screen, then "READY", and lastly "HERE WE GO" should be modifiable based on the song (and optionally, the chart) being played. Occurs on both the Curilang A3 theme and the fork.

6. Several songs and/or artist names do not display correctly due to missing characters:
- Timepiece phase Ⅱ: missing a Roman numeral II character "Ⅱ"
- Pārvatī: missing lowercase letter I with a macron "ī"
- コメット⇒スケイター: missing double arrow characters "⇐⇑⇒⇓"
There might be more song and artist names that have this issue of not being displayed properly but the three aforementioned songs are my main concerns.

This zip file contains the updated 04 Other.lua, 07 DanceStages.lua, 07 StagesManager.lua, and SongManager PreferredSongs.txt files to address issues 1-3 listed above. A good number of WORLD's songs (excluding licenses) are currently not in GP, so I had to select the stages for those songs myself for the modified 07 StagesManager.lua file.

Thanks! I'm gonna merge in your patches to the theme soon.

Changes committed. Check the repository to get the new version.

I guess DDR W or a previous DDR A or even DDR 2013/2014 would be cool as a future project. SuperNOVA 2 really needs an official theme. There is a lot of unfinished ddr themes out there but It is very cool with all the stuff you done with DDR A3 theme.

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I do technically have a copy of Curilang's DDR A that was removed from GitHub and the StepMania archive guy never responded to my request to add it.

I could maybe apply the patches to it? Older versions of DDR don't appear to have a very good base theme I could start with so the amount of fixing is so much bigger with those.

I would love a 1st-3rd Mix Jukebox theme that actually works (Starlight does not). But it's too much to ask for free work.

What you're doing creating a replica of A3 is awesome.

I'm trying hard to make an arcade accurate recreation, like Jindev's themes but publicly available.

Even his themes had certain things be incorrect. I'm here to fix that. Play DDR A3 on StepMania, like an arcade.

Do you really think I don't check and update my themes after I post my videos on youtube? You keep on saying I get things that are incorrect without saying the specifics anywhere online.

I have read people complain more about your current theme than mine (e.g. issues and bugs) too so don't act like yours is accurate.

If you see I have missing feature I haven't implemented yet, it's because that's my preference. My themes do not always have to be arcade-accurate. I prefer adding QOL features than making it 100% arcade-accurate feature-wise.

And so does everyone, there is no perfect theme. I am just trying to bridge the gap between your themes and publicly available themes, that anyone can get. People want accurate themes, so I try my best.

Then focus on your theme. You can do more and better without dragging my name in this nobody asked for. You're not the first time I've seen doing this and guess what? It delays the productivity of the theme because they keep on bitching other themers and spending more time explaining the feature updates than updating the theme itself. You keep on mentioning "accurate themes" and indirectly implying mine are not. I've been doing DDR themes since 2008 (when TakuyaMAXX was popular that time) so between you and me, you are not in a position to discuss how to make "accurate themes".

Geez, you gotta be that aggressive about it? We're all doing our jobs. I've just mentioned that many people believed your themes to be the best quality, and I'm here to provide such quality as well, despite others claiming to "bitch" on you just because you made them all private. That's not good of them.

With your obsession to drag my name in different forums including emuline and discord not once, not twice..., I have every reason to be aggressive about especially when I did nothing.

hi,finally solve the dance stage problem (some files/folder missing in the github) but now i have some issues with dance stage + songs bga



dance stage = work fine

song with bga= runs slow



no dance stage folder= bga songs run fine,but the other songs don´t have generic bga



minor fix: dan 1- 10 fine kaiden missing grafics (?)

They were missing? I need to check it.

This should not be the case.