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Why is DDR treated so badly compared to other BEMANI games?

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Post #1 · Posted at 2021-04-17 02:28:17pm 3 years ago

Offline gotmilk0112
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After playing other BEMANI games the past few years at Round1, I just can't help but wonder why DDR seems to be the step-headed red child. In almost every aspect, it's worse than the other games.

-Speed mods are locked to multiples of 0.25
-Mod menu in general is absolutely tiny compared to other games
-Sync issues out the ass; no other modern BEMANI game has sync issues, but in DDR, at least 25% the songs are off sync by some amount
-Very basic settings like FAST/SLOW and lane brightness are locked behind a paywall
-The 20th anniversary new cab is literally just a repainted Dancerush cab that is worse than the white cab in some ways
-Lots of songs are heinously under-charted, like Crimson Gate
-Annoying announcer/crowd sounds with no way to disable or quiet them
-Pads still use ancient digital sensor technology instead of analog FSRs, and practically NEED to be modded in order to function well at high levels of play

Just...why? Is DDR really that unpopular in Japan, compared to the other BEMANI games? I don't understand why so many features and improvements in other BEMANI games are completely absent from DDR.

Post #2 · Posted at 2021-04-17 02:38:33pm 3 years ago

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Aaron in Japan might have insight as to why. But at least the game is still supported. It isn't suffering the same fate as Konami's prolific IPs like MGS, Contra, Castlevania, etc... It could be worse.
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Post #3 · Posted at 2021-04-17 02:40:35pm 3 years ago

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"five minute white boy challenge"
I don't think there's a single answer to this question, really. I think the team behind DDR is just lazy.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #4 · Posted at 2021-04-17 03:06:58pm 3 years ago

Offline Burtzman
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Quote: Quickman
I don't think there's a single answer to this question, really. I think the team behind DDR is just lazy.

Or not paid enough to give a shit.

Post #5 · Posted at 2021-04-17 03:08:31pm 3 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
I think it's safe to say it's a combination of multiple things and both "lazy" and "not paid enough for this garbage" are on the board.
Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #6 · Posted at 2021-04-17 06:30:13pm 3 years ago

Offline AxelWasHere
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"No."
In Japan, what game is most played out of the BEMANI games?

DDR?
IIDX?
Pop n?
DRS?(lol)
SDVX?
Gita?

Im naming ones here thats still supported by e-amuse. Im generally curious. I still think the team for DDR is just out right lazy/dont care. Look at past DDR games for USA and the iOS versions of them. Hell even DDR V.
https://i.imgur.com/vnrpBDk.gif

Post #7 · Posted at 2021-04-19 06:09:15pm 3 years ago

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Quote: gotmilk0112
After playing other BEMANI games the past few years at Round1, I just can't help but wonder why DDR seems to be the step-headed red child. In almost every aspect, it's worse than the other games.

-Speed mods are locked to multiples of 0.25
-Mod menu in general is absolutely tiny compared to other games
-Sync issues out the ass; no other modern BEMANI game has sync issues, but in DDR, at least 25% the songs are off sync by some amount
-Very basic settings like FAST/SLOW and lane brightness are locked behind a paywall
-The 20th anniversary new cab is literally just a repainted Dancerush cab that is worse than the white cab in some ways
-Lots of songs are heinously under-charted, like Crimson Gate
-Annoying announcer/crowd sounds with no way to disable or quiet them
-Pads still use ancient digital sensor technology instead of analog FSRs, and practically NEED to be modded in order to function well at high levels of play

Just...why? Is DDR really that unpopular in Japan, compared to the other BEMANI games? I don't understand why so many features and improvements in other BEMANI games are completely absent from DDR.

I think this youtube video describes more of these problems and in depth.


Post #8 · Posted at 2021-04-19 07:35:14pm 3 years ago

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Quote: AxelWasHere
In Japan, what game is most played out of the BEMANI games?

DDR?
IIDX?
Pop n?
DRS?(lol)
SDVX?
Gita?

Im naming ones here thats still supported by e-amuse. Im generally curious. I still think the team for DDR is just out right lazy/dont care. Look at past DDR games for USA and the iOS versions of them. Hell even DDR V.
If they were lazy or didn’t care they would be fired and replaced with a team that cared and would put in the work. That’s what happens to people who don’t deliver what the boss wants, which leads to the shitty conclusion that DDR is actually what Konami wants it to be right now and that really sucks.
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Post #9 · Posted at 2021-04-19 08:05:23pm 3 years ago

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Because people don't like make exercises when are playing.
https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/simfiles/DDR%20GOLD%2020%20simfiles/DDR%20GOLD%2020%20simfiles.png?1620131017 https://i.imgur.com/HXpMEwl.png
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