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Post #1 · Posted at 2020-11-24 02:59:37am 3.4 years ago

Offline black4ever
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I've been getting back to simfile making lately, and I would like to know your thoughts on this:

When making simfiles, do you start with the hardest charts (Expert/Challenge) first? I've always considered that option as the one that "fully establishes the difficulty of the song" I would call it, since that's the difficulty that majority of DDR/Stepmania players play (to put it nicely Tongue).

I tend to do the opposite, starting with Beginner and/or Basic, as I would call "building blocks," in determining the charts' overall difficulty, especially once I start stepping the highest difficulties. I hope you understand my choice of words. Laughing Out Loud

TL;DR: How do you set up your charts in simfiles? Highest difficulties first or lowest?

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Post #2 · Posted at 2020-11-24 03:05:41am 3.4 years ago

Offline TikalFan9000
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when it comes to my files with multiple charts i tend to do the hardest one first, since i can put my idealized concepts in a better way there
though in sunny day i did Light first

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Post #3 · Posted at 2020-11-24 03:26:54am 3.4 years ago

Offline tsugaru7reveng
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I always do Heavy first, then BeginnerLightStandard in that order. Challenge last.

Post #4 · Posted at 2020-11-24 05:00:30am 3.4 years ago

Online Silver Spirit
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Honestly, I don't really have a consistent order when it comes to simfile difficulties. I did the Light for Profession first, though that was mostly because I knew I wanted to reference its SDVX chart with it. Most of the time, though, I go Heavy -> Light -> Standard

Post #5 · Posted at 2020-11-24 05:50:16am 3.4 years ago

Offline chewi
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i usually go easiest to hardest, though sometimes i feel inspired to do a certain chart (usually heavy) and i do that first. it just depends. there's really no wrong way to do it. you can always go back and make changes if you're worried about difficulty balance or something like that

Post #6 · Posted at 2020-12-06 12:52:08am 3.3 years ago

Offline archer1122
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I like to go from Heavy to Light, with Heavy I feel like I get a better grasp of how the song feels (instrumental, vocals, pace, etc.)

Post #7 · Posted at 2020-12-06 02:13:04am 3.3 years ago

Offline DevilsLynAvenged12!
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Well for me I go in reverse(Beginner to Expert) and I usually place 4th notes in the spots that catches the beat to the music and then as I'm going up in difficultly, I start adding other arrows(8th notes, 12th notes, 16th notes, etc.) You know what I mean.

Post #8 · Posted at 2020-12-07 12:10:37am 3.3 years ago

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In my case, BEGINNER (only in some songs) -> BASIC -> DIFFICULT -> EXPERT -> CHALLNEGE (or CHALLENGE-only songs).
BEGINNER is skipped in most songs when I playing SINGLE and DOUBLE charts (due to BEGINNER charts aren't in DOUBLE).
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Post #9 · Posted at 2020-12-07 02:20:04am 3.3 years ago

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Post #10 · Posted at 2020-12-07 07:42:52am 3.3 years ago

Offline typeCHAOS
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I tend to go with Heavy first to figure out the difficulty curve for the rest of the charts.
Challenge comes later if im feeling the song needs either:
A boost in difficulty
An extra chart that mirrors heavy, (old era charts)
or shock arrow chart. (Following the current style of charting.)
While not as important but i try to include doubles also to round out the simfile itself.
As always i start with Heavy and end with Challenge if need be.
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