Post #1 · Posted at 2008-04-09 01:45:57am 16.5 years ago
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Hello. everyone.
I'm trying to create a list of all of the files that suffer from the 1/12ths problem in earlier DDR mixes. The purpose of this is to release a pack with fixed simfiles, for those who do not wish to play songs with incorrect timing.
I'm personally not going to stick with faulty files, especially when this problem was solved in Supernova 2 (yes, I know they didn't fix the pre-SN charts, but I don't really mind, Bag is still horribly offsync).
The list of mixes that apply: 1-8th + SuperNova, including the Plus mixes, and the songs from CS that appeared on arcade songlists.
You don't have to point where exactly the incorrect steps are, I'll find it myself. Just the name is sufficient.
Here's a list of what is found so far: (will be edited)
Afronova
Bag
Broken My Heart (D-Expert)
Burning Heat
Captain Jack
Drop Out (FNSMM)
Drop The Bomb
Gentle Stress
Get Up'n Move
Furuhata's Theme (dunno if I should fix this one?)
Healing-D-Vision
Heaven is a '57 metallic gray
iFUTURELIST
I'll Make Love To You
I Need You
Kiss Kiss Kiss
Let the beat hit em!
Luv to me
MAX 300
Mikeneko Rock
My Summer Love (Tommy's Smile Mix)
Ordinary World
Orion.78 Civilization Mix
Share My Love
Swing It
The Legend of MAX
Trip Machine Climax
Tsugaru
TwinBee ~Generation X~
Thanks to the following people for contributing: RoyBoyCF, Oni-91
Alternatively, if there is a pack with the fixed DDR mixes somewhere, you can just point me to that. Thanks in advance.
I'm trying to create a list of all of the files that suffer from the 1/12ths problem in earlier DDR mixes. The purpose of this is to release a pack with fixed simfiles, for those who do not wish to play songs with incorrect timing.
I'm personally not going to stick with faulty files, especially when this problem was solved in Supernova 2 (yes, I know they didn't fix the pre-SN charts, but I don't really mind, Bag is still horribly offsync).
The list of mixes that apply: 1-8th + SuperNova, including the Plus mixes, and the songs from CS that appeared on arcade songlists.
You don't have to point where exactly the incorrect steps are, I'll find it myself. Just the name is sufficient.
Here's a list of what is found so far: (will be edited)
Afronova
Bag
Broken My Heart (D-Expert)
Burning Heat
Captain Jack
Drop Out (FNSMM)
Drop The Bomb
Gentle Stress
Get Up'n Move
Furuhata's Theme (dunno if I should fix this one?)
Healing-D-Vision
Heaven is a '57 metallic gray
iFUTURELIST
I'll Make Love To You
I Need You
Kiss Kiss Kiss
Let the beat hit em!
Luv to me
MAX 300
Mikeneko Rock
My Summer Love (Tommy's Smile Mix)
Ordinary World
Orion.78 Civilization Mix
Share My Love
Swing It
The Legend of MAX
Trip Machine Climax
Tsugaru
TwinBee ~Generation X~
Thanks to the following people for contributing: RoyBoyCF, Oni-91
Alternatively, if there is a pack with the fixed DDR mixes somewhere, you can just point me to that. Thanks in advance.
Post #2 · Posted at 2008-04-09 01:55:48am 16.5 years ago
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Some more:
Broken My Heart (D-Expert only)
Drop Out (FNSMM)
Kiss Kiss Kiss
Mikeneko Rock
My Summer Love (Tommy's Smile Mix)
TwinBee ~Generation X~
There are more songs with improperly synced triplets, but it'd be a hassle trying to list them all.
Broken My Heart (D-Expert only)
Drop Out (FNSMM)
Kiss Kiss Kiss
Mikeneko Rock
My Summer Love (Tommy's Smile Mix)
TwinBee ~Generation X~
There are more songs with improperly synced triplets, but it'd be a hassle trying to list them all.
Post #3 · Posted at 2008-04-09 02:37:46am 16.5 years ago
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The legend of MAX
iFUTURELIST
Ballad for You (maybe, anyone checked?)
I Need You (Insideout Door Mix) (the DDR:UK pack with them contains a part before the speedup where the rest of the chart is off-sync by 1/24th)
Also, I think that DDR:UK have a folder containing fixes for pre-SuperNOVA files.
iFUTURELIST
Ballad for You (maybe, anyone checked?)
I Need You (Insideout Door Mix) (the DDR:UK pack with them contains a part before the speedup where the rest of the chart is off-sync by 1/24th)
Also, I think that DDR:UK have a folder containing fixes for pre-SuperNOVA files.
Post #5 · Posted at 2008-04-09 05:01:30am 16.5 years ago
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Quote: Chmurek |
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AM-3P (AM East mix) Gotcha Furuhata's Theme (dunno if I should fix this one?) Healing-D-Vision Tsugaru |
Post #6 · Posted at 2008-04-09 05:10:11am 16.5 years ago
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HDV and TSUGARU should have them. GOTCHA never had them, and doesn't need them. FURUHATA'S THEME has them, though really there shouldn't be. Dunno about AM-3P.
Post #7 · Posted at 2008-04-09 06:43:07am 16.5 years ago
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AM-3P (AM East mix) Gotcha |
Furuhata's Theme |
Healing-D-Vision Tsugaru |
I'm not sure about HDV though. I gotta listen to it carefully tomorrow with headphones on.
Post #8 · Posted at 2008-04-09 06:46:16am 16.5 years ago
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I'm pretty sure about HDV. It's the jumps before/right after the speedup. If you play it in SM 3.9 at half speed, it becomes more obvious that they're off. Someone else here said the same is true of the gallops, but to me, the gallops in that song don't follow anything anyway.
Post #9 · Posted at 2008-04-09 06:52:17am 16.5 years ago
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With HDV, the entire 180 BPM section should be in 12th time, not 16th. This means that the final jumps should be in 6th time.
Post #10 · Posted at 2008-04-09 06:57:29am 16.5 years ago
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Okay, I can see that. I feel off when playing that song at low speed, even when I'm getting perfs. That would probably explain it.
Post #11 · Posted at 2008-04-09 07:04:27pm 16.5 years ago
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HDV's stepchart actually uses 16ths instead of 12ths, and Tsugaru's stepchart IS supposed to be 32nds.
Post #12 · Posted at 2008-04-09 09:50:49pm 16.5 years ago
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Yes, but they feel off-sync with them.
Post #13 · Posted at 2008-04-10 12:44:46am 16.5 years ago
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The idea IS to have the official steps, the correct steps. Right?
Post #14 · Posted at 2008-04-22 03:24:16am 16.4 years ago
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Pluto Relinquish Doubles Expert. Dunno about other charts of it.
Post #15 · Posted at 2008-04-23 03:51:29am 16.4 years ago
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listen to HDV differently. theres a lot going on in the 180 BPM section, the gallops are fine. its the jumps that are off, and only the jumps.
Post #16 · Posted at 2008-04-23 04:59:16am 16.4 years ago
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The gallops are close enough. But when you start getting 3 1/16ths in a row and such, it gets messy. The whole 360BPM part is wrong.
Post #17 · Posted at 2008-04-28 03:29:09pm 16.4 years ago
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Well, the 360 bpm 8th-note runs are off by a 16th. Without making any bpm changes, if you wanted that section on you'd have to make it all yellow arrows =o
HDV's main issue is going to the drums instead of the synth, anyway.
HDV's main issue is going to the drums instead of the synth, anyway.
Post #18 · Posted at 2008-04-28 04:22:57pm 16.4 years ago
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It doesn't go to the drums, the drums are in triples too >_<
Post #19 · Posted at 2008-04-28 04:53:36pm 16.4 years ago
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There were certain sections where the drums were not the same beat as the melody. I'd point out which I was hearing that way, but I'm half-asleep right now
Post #20 · Posted at 2008-04-28 07:47:19pm 16.4 years ago
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Dragon Blade has a few at the very end of the song.