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Post #1421 · Posted at 2015-07-29 04:04:04am 9.1 years ago

Offline Trip Machina
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Quote: Willards KA PA
When [2] songs do make their way to jubeat plus, I have a feeling they will not be free.
You make a really good point here; just look at how the GROOVE COASTER ZERO -> GROOVE COASTER 2 ORIGINAL STYLE turned out...TAITO's tactic is rather ingenious for making money, giving us the option to purchase the AC charts of song packs that we've already purchased. I wouldn't be surprised if KONAMI did the same thing with jubeat plus Hold Markers............however, with the jubeat lab in existence, it might blow my theory out of the water. It would certainly be generous if KONAMI just gave us the chart additions, but they would need to make a seriously huge update for that, so this is my theory:

FREE HOLD MARKER CHART ADDITIONS:
Possibility #1 - Have an update that allows you to download said charts in the jubeat plus store.
^: Because not all charts have Hold Markers, the ones that do would have to be available somewhere in the store to download, and not to mention, the song pack that the song came from must be confirmed as purchased already.

Possibility #2 - Have an update that checks if all necessary existing music pack data (one-time internet-required boot-up) is on the device, then download the necessary Hold Marker charts.
^: To avoid this game becoming dependent on a constant internet connection, it would be most convenient if they gave us a button somewhere in the Settings to CHECK for Hold Marker charts (highly doubt this would be implemented).

Possibility #3 - Have an update to implement a "POINT" system to "buy" (unlock) the Hold Marker charts.
^: But you'd of course need to have the song(s) on your device.


PAID HOLD MARKER CHART ADDITIONS:
Possiblity #1 - Have an update to the jubeat store that adds the Hold Marker charts for sale individually or music pack-wise (even if the pack just contains one song with Hold Markers); maybe there would even be "Hold PACK(s)". I doubt it'd be anything less than 120 YEN if implemented.

Possibility #2 - Add the option to "UNLOCK" (buy) the Hold Marker version chart on the difficulty select frame of songs, which would be a new IAP.



I can't think of any other way as of now, but I'm hoping for the FREE possibilities.


Anyways, for the 'prop the world' questionnaire, I made sure to put "CAN'T ALWAYS CONNECT TO INTERNET" and "I PLAY jubeat plus ON AIRPLANES, TRAINS, AND WHILE TRAVELING".........I don't want this game to become dependent on a constant internet connection.


Lastly, I believe that Konami is holding back on the jubeat plus copious theme in lieu of the release of iOS 9. We're currently at jubeat plus version 3.6.2; the copious update (if the tradition stands) should hit at 4.0.0, and I have a feeling that it just won't be a theme change...I think that they might try implementing some kind of new system. Perhaps this will be unveiled at TGS 2015 (around two months from now) at the Konami booth, but chances seem undeniably low even THIS late.
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Post #1422 · Posted at 2015-09-09 05:29:09pm 9 years ago

Offline Willards KA PA
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Apple just formally announced the iPad Pro with a gorgeous 12.9 inch display. Can you just imagine playing games like jubeat plus or REFLEC BEAT plus on it *drool*

Awesome new pack by the way with the GITADORA picks.

*Edit, Destiny Lovers' CD jacket is freaky, had to look at the original video for that song*
I don't play simulators. Only the real official games.

Post #1423 · Posted at 2015-09-10 08:05:28pm 9 years ago

Offline hollandaze
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Quote: Willards KA PA
Awesome new pack by the way with the GITADORA picks.

*Edit, Destiny Lovers' CD jacket is freaky, had to look at the original video for that song*

I'm really happy they added Hanenaki shoujo uta...but where is the pack for Reflec Beat plus? Jubeat plus has always gotten priority for new packs, when Reflec is still missing hundreds of songs.
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Post #1424 · Posted at 2015-09-12 04:01:00pm 9 years ago

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Jubeat plus has always gotten priority for new packs, when Reflec is still missing hundreds of songs.
'Cause jubeat is just that much better! Puppy Face
Hehe, all jokes aside, jubeat still came out before REFLEC BEAT and their CS versions respectively; it is only expected that jubeat's library is larger...not to mention, I see more people playing jubeat in the arcade than REFLEC BEAT. I personally have more fun playing jubeat, but that's just me.

And as for the iPad Pro, I can see myself having more fun with REFLEC BEAT plus than with jubeat plus because I'm already used to the 9.7-inch iPad display; the larger screen would result in some major adjustments to playing style for jubeat plus. I sure hope that Konami has been expecting a 12.9-inch display because they would surely (finally, long overdue) have to update to FULL RETINA SUPPORT for both jubeat plus and REFLEC BEAT plus....and for the love of God, the long overdue copious update.

In any case, I will wait on the iPad Pro 2/Plus because I want the 4K video support as well as the other neat little features that the newly announced 6S/6S plus series has that the iPad Pro does not have. Marketing...



EDIT: Speaking of which, that larger size screen would definitely be nice for a SDVX port; I've already made some concept art some months ago for an iPad (iOS) port:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/TripMachina/Concept%20Art/image.jpg1_zpsqx1vehhy.jpg
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Quote: Alan and Trip Machina 2007-2008
Trip says: lol guessing TROOPER songs are funner XD
Alan says: oh noes
Alan says: nintendo license ... KOOPA TROOPA? XD
Trip says: LMAO!!!

Post #1425 · Posted at 2015-09-12 09:21:29pm 9 years ago

Offline Willards KA PA
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I personally wouldn't do mind a unique jubeat plus theme at this point since we're so behind the arcade themes. Who knows, TGS is around the corner, they might surprise us with a new theme and perhaps the chance to reunite with Sweet Rain and Snow Goose lol.
I don't play simulators. Only the real official games.

Post #1426 · Posted at 2015-09-12 10:16:15pm 9 years ago

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Quote: Trip Machina
EDIT: Speaking of which, that larger size screen would definitely be nice for a SDVX port; I've already made some concept art some months ago for an iPad (iOS) port

They really should call this SOUND VOLTEX PAD (and nice idea on the analogs in order to handle crossing patterns)

Post #1427 · Posted at 2015-09-19 06:14:30am 9 years ago

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TGS 2015 is almost over, and Konami hasn't shown anything for mobile platforms (or PCs [INFINITAS]) yet, there is only one day remaining, and I have little hope that they'll reveal something that'll make me jizz in my pants.
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Quote: Alan and Trip Machina 2007-2008
Trip says: lol guessing TROOPER songs are funner XD
Alan says: oh noes
Alan says: nintendo license ... KOOPA TROOPA? XD
Trip says: LMAO!!!

Post #1428 · Posted at 2015-09-28 07:48:33am 8.9 years ago

Offline hollandaze
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New pop'n pack!

https://i.imgur.com/HDNjh0R.jpg

This pack needs to be in RB. Bleep Beep Bop is probably my favorite kors k pop'n song.
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Post #1429 · Posted at 2015-09-28 11:37:55am 8.9 years ago

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"all I need is your lo~ve ba~by"
Also because Star Ship Hero is the only Lucky Vacuum song not in RB at all
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Post #1430 · Posted at 2015-09-28 12:12:54pm 8.9 years ago

Offline Willards KA PA
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Wow another crossover pack just for jubeat plus?!?!!? With some fantastic choices like my favorite good-cool song ever. Being mostly caught up with the AC versions has its perks too. They gotta keep players interested. And I wonder how much longer until hold markers are finally implemented???
I don't play simulators. Only the real official games.

Post #1431 · Posted at 2015-09-28 01:44:38pm 8.9 years ago

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Probably the best pack I've seen in a while for Jubeat Plus. In the Ruins (One of my favorite BEMANI songs) and Star Ship Hero are great choices for this pack.
Hopefully more packs like this follow.

Post #1432 · Posted at 2015-09-28 05:31:34pm 8.9 years ago

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"More uptempo in rhythm games pls"
We are currently all out of non-hold arcade charts, so we probably won't be seeing anymore regular arcade packs until we get a hold note update.
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Post #1433 · Posted at 2015-09-28 08:03:07pm 8.9 years ago

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Really nice pack.

The next time someone says '[song] will never be crossed over to [game] because of license reasons', remember that in the year of our lord 2015, Daydream from Pop'n Music 8 showed up in a current Bemani game, with Tsuboi's rap left entirely intact Big Grin

Post #1434 · Posted at 2015-09-29 04:46:25am 8.9 years ago

Offline hollandaze
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Would anyone happen to know what this means?

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Post #1435 · Posted at 2015-09-29 07:50:54am 8.9 years ago

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It says: Download failed. Continuing from here will reset your marker to the default.

Post #1436 · Posted at 2015-09-30 08:00:59am 8.9 years ago

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It says: Download failed. Continuing from here will reset your marker to the default.

Strange. When I opened my game, the marker was reset to the knit marker. No idea why a download would affect that.

Edit: I wonder how many concept and crossover packs they'll add before they update the game with hold markers?

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Post #1437 · Posted at 2015-09-30 09:54:34am 8.9 years ago

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If you're implying the need to retroactively update them, that's not the case. Remember, hold marker charts are completely new charts, and have had separate entries compared to their normal counterparts at the arcades. Unlike vertical notes, which are actually a required element for new songs in Reflec, holds are extraneous in Jubeat, so I think only songs with arcade [2] chart sets will get something, maybe as a gift that requires you buy the original pack.

Ps: Speaking of gifts, what are those 4 you haven't gotten? My ocd's getting the best of me on this one. Tongue

Post #1438 · Posted at 2015-09-30 10:47:17am 8.9 years ago

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"More uptempo in rhythm games pls"
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If you're implying the need to retroactively update them, that's not the case. Remember, hold marker charts are completely new charts, and have had separate entries compared to their normal counterparts at the arcades. Unlike vertical notes, which are actually a required element for new songs in Reflec, holds are extraneous in Jubeat, so I think only songs with arcade [2] chart sets will get something, maybe as a gift that requires you buy the original pack.

Quote: VideoGameKaiser96
We are currently all out of non-hold arcade charts, so we probably won't be seeing anymore regular arcade packs until we get a hold note update.

Hold notes are needed for pretty much all the new prop songs that haven't been released on plus.
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Post #1439 · Posted at 2015-09-30 06:31:36pm 8.9 years ago

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We are currently all out of non-hold arcade charts, so we probably won't be seeing anymore regular arcade packs until we get a hold note update.

Hold notes are needed for pretty much all the new prop songs that haven't been released on plus.

This is what I meant, DDR Addict. Maybe for the [2] chart unlocks they'll do it similar to pop'n rhythmin, where if you purchased the whole pack, you got the songs unlocked in the Arcade Viewer, so purchasing the whole pack in jubeat plus will get you the [2] charts.

Quote: DDR Addict
Ps: Speaking of gifts, what are those 4 you haven't gotten? My ocd's getting the best of me on this one. Tongue

The two Chronos Ring songs, and the two Milk&Coffee Love songs. The number should be 6, I haven't gotten the Legend of Konami songs or the BTR songs either.

RB plus and jubeat plus each have things the other is lacking. Jubeat gets way more non-concept song packs, but it hasn't gotten system updates like RB, like the long overdue copious theme and hold markers. And while RB gets system updates, it doesn't get as many song packs of any kind, and it's lacking a sorting system in the store like jubeat has.
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Post #1440 · Posted at 2015-09-30 06:43:19pm 8.9 years ago

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I must admit the fact that some new songs get holds right off the bat threw me off. However, there's still a small pool of new songs to tap, and two packs in particular seem viable in the near future:

MAGICAL SUMMER SMILE
twinkle noise
Rock the Club

Hinabitter (Looks like we'll be due for a new pack in a few months)
ツーマンライブ
チョコレートスマイル
neko*neko
激アツ☆マジヤバ☆チアガール

SUMMER DIARY (Well, whaddya know, exactly 4 songs without holds!)
In The Breeze
TWINKLING
惑星☆ロリポップ
夏色DIARY 俺のjubeat編
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