Post #101 · Posted at 2008-12-27 07:34:40am 15.4 years ago
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You do realise that from around October time, Brazen has put an awful lot of hard work into doing Universe 3, complete with graphics, correct sample starts/lengths, background vids, syncing, live BPMs... the works. (Including a straight 39-hour marathon to try and get the lot done quicker)
Speaking of syncing, we tested Dirty Digital on an ITG2 upgrade and it turns out to be spot-on. (Same syncing as Typical Tropical which to our knowledge is perfect on all ITG2 revisions.)
Sure, one might complain about syncing and other imperfections, but at the end of the day be thankful that you've even got decent DDRU3 simfiles in the first place.
I said what I did because I had not played anything synced by Brazen before, so I had no knowledge of whether his stuff would be off or not. AFAIK, the only other stuff I'm aware he synced was HP2, which I haven't played the simfiles for because the steps are such utter trash.Speaking of syncing, we tested Dirty Digital on an ITG2 upgrade and it turns out to be spot-on. (Same syncing as Typical Tropical which to our knowledge is perfect on all ITG2 revisions.)
Sure, one might complain about syncing and other imperfections, but at the end of the day be thankful that you've even got decent DDRU3 simfiles in the first place.
He's certainly more dedicated to simfile making than I was aware. I guess the missed sleep was the main reason he reacted as he did, instead of simply saying, "Your expectations will be wrong., play these files that I synced.".
Anway, I'll take this as a lesson to stay out of simfile discussion here. Nobody likes what I say about simfiles.
Post #102 · Posted at 2008-12-27 07:43:01am 15.4 years ago
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You do realise that from around October time, Brazen has put an awful lot of hard work into doing Universe 3, complete with graphics, correct sample starts/lengths, background vids, syncing, live BPMs... the works. (Including a straight 39-hour marathon to try and get the lot done quicker)
Speaking of syncing, we tested Dirty Digital on an ITG2 upgrade and it turns out to be spot-on. (Same syncing as Typical Tropical which to our knowledge is perfect on all ITG2 revisions.)
Sure, one might complain about syncing and other imperfections, but at the end of the day be thankful that you've even got decent DDRU3 simfiles in the first place.
Speaking of syncing, we tested Dirty Digital on an ITG2 upgrade and it turns out to be spot-on. (Same syncing as Typical Tropical which to our knowledge is perfect on all ITG2 revisions.)
Sure, one might complain about syncing and other imperfections, but at the end of the day be thankful that you've even got decent DDRU3 simfiles in the first place.
Just going to elaborate on this, it was tested on a stepfile which i made for Typical Tropical PURELY for the purpose as sync testing and i made sure the mp3 started at exactly at 0.000 offset. playing Dirty Digital on this setup came up with only a TINY difference in gap, although i did admit the beginning seemed weirdly synced but there was no steady beat.
Anyway enough about this, get on with the work *Whip crack (WHU-PAH for you alan!)*
Post #103 · Posted at 2008-12-27 09:06:10am 15.4 years ago
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This is so stupid.
If the files were off in the first place, why are people only complaining about it now? I am confident that Adam's syncing is correct, as it matches all the other simfiles I have on my computer. Also the other packs I have downloaded from people are also in sync on my computer so that must mean all the simfiles are synced to a good standard.
If anyone has a good example to what file is synced wrong, cos let's hear it, cos I see NOTHING wrong with the files.
If the files were off in the first place, why are people only complaining about it now? I am confident that Adam's syncing is correct, as it matches all the other simfiles I have on my computer. Also the other packs I have downloaded from people are also in sync on my computer so that must mean all the simfiles are synced to a good standard.
If anyone has a good example to what file is synced wrong, cos let's hear it, cos I see NOTHING wrong with the files.
Post #104 · Posted at 2008-12-27 09:14:35am 15.4 years ago
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As far as I understand, no one is complaining about sync. The only comment was Kyzentun's comment on the previous page saying he "expects" the sync to be off because hellrazor's sync is on for him, but he hasn't played anything to justify any comment, so regardless of whether or not it was an appropriate comment, it wasn't a comment on the sync of the pack.
It was just an argument over hellrazor's sync which apparently derailed into what happened now.
It was just an argument over hellrazor's sync which apparently derailed into what happened now.
Post #105 · Posted at 2008-12-27 09:20:21am 15.4 years ago
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Thing is, bluntly saying that the simfiles are off without giving any evidence is a bit insulting to the simfile makers themselves; at least justify why the simfiles are off or something you know? =/
So yeah, in future, just backup your claims with examples.
So yeah, in future, just backup your claims with examples.
Post #106 · Posted at 2008-12-27 09:49:56am 15.4 years ago
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Hellrazor, your sync sucks ass.
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Thing is, bluntly saying that the simfiles are off without giving any evidence is a bit insulting to the simfile makers themselves; at least justify why the simfiles are off or something you know? =/
So yeah, in future, just backup your claims with examples.
So yeah, in future, just backup your claims with examples.
Post #107 · Posted at 2008-12-27 09:52:20am 15.4 years ago
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There's a long history, hellrazor==prayerwarrior, he also stated my SN files weren't on sync back when I did it for DDR:UK, it was rather annoying when he didn't provide proof when there's clearly nothing wrong with it at the time.
We're just annoyed that he has not provided any examples thus far.
We're just annoyed that he has not provided any examples thus far.
Post #108 · Posted at 2008-12-27 09:57:50am 15.4 years ago
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Okay, I see, you're just returning the favor. I didn't realize you would bring history into this.
Oh, and I don't read DDRUK, so I don't know any of what goes on there.
Oh, and I don't read DDRUK, so I don't know any of what goes on there.
Post #109 · Posted at 2008-12-27 10:40:37am 15.4 years ago
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Either way, spending a ton of effort on files and having someone say, oh they're not good enough, is not a great feeling y'know? It's a bit insulting really. That's the gist of it.
Post #110 · Posted at 2008-12-27 12:51:16pm 15.4 years ago
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Well, HP2 (by Brazen) (I keyboarded a few) and hellrazor's custom files (keyboarded a few of them too) are both perfectly on sync, so I don't see why Brazen decided to call hellrazor's sync crap in this case.
Also, I don't see why he called hellrazor's topic about syncing to a common standard "talking out of his ass".
Also, I don't see why he called hellrazor's topic about syncing to a common standard "talking out of his ass".
Post #111 · Posted at 2008-12-28 12:06:53am 15.4 years ago
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Don't you all find this argument stupid? I mean, Kyzentun only said that he feared the sims would be off on his computer, he didn't "say Brazen sucks don't let him make simfiles they're gonna be crap!" Yet he decided to take it as an attack and completely overreact! Childish anyone? But, Al, why don't you unlock the Uni3 category anyway so we could enjoy the sims he made(which I'm certain are perfectly on sync)? And then we could all send him a "big wave of love of Christmas" for what he did to make him feel better...
Post #112 · Posted at 2008-12-28 12:19:30pm 15.4 years ago
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There's a long history, hellrazor==prayerwarrior, he also stated my SN files weren't on sync back when I did it for DDR:UK, it was rather annoying when he didn't provide proof when there's clearly nothing wrong with it at the time.
We're just annoyed that he has not provided any examples thus far.
We're just annoyed that he has not provided any examples thus far.
Actually it's HellRazoR == PrayerWarrior35.
I've stated that everyone's files aren't on-sync since my standard for synching is to within 1ms and most people are far less picky (actually I don't know anyone as picky as me). There are only a few people whom I respect as synchers, Udderdude did a decent job, Rynker is also alright, and whomever does the DWI-extreme is okay as well, other than these three there's a large spread of off-syncedness amongst simfilers (I'm not talking about just getting the BPM correct, I'm talking about making the offsets consistent [not necessarily perfect but to within a close amount of each other]).
If you want proof I can provide plenty of proof, I actually just thought providing perfectly synched files would be better than nitpicking all the errors. I spend many hours making sure my synchs are correct, and providing the 'fixed' synchs should have been clear enough that the previous files are off, plus adding in all sorts of error comments would probably tick you off even more.
The biggest problem with your files al2k4 is the Global Offset. Almost all the files I download from here I must adjust by +30- +60ms. If you would bother fixing your global offset you would appreciate my work much more. I made a thread about it, and you can download SM4.0 and use the global offset feature which will do exactally what my thread explains. BUT even if you didn't want to adjust your global offset, you could simply find an offset difference from my PC and yours and change ALL of my OFFSETS or gaps by the same amount.
I've also never blindly made a comment that anyone's sync suck ass, I simply "offer" what I strongly consider to be better data and I've never forced you to make updates to the files to include this.
You guys are all being childish for arguing over sync. Someday my work may be appreciated (go ahead and ask me for sync on any DDR file, I've re-synched them ALL) but until then I don't expect everyone to recognize my great effort. If your threshold for sync is +/-20ms and you probably play by closely watching arrows (rather than following the music precisely) then it will be impossible for you to recognize that my work is better. But my threshold is +/-.5ms and I intently listen to the music, so I recognize all the slight errors that don't bother most.
Feel free to check out any of my synchs, I don't make simple claims here, I can back everything up with great detail if you like. Check out my simfiles that you allowed me to host here (I believe you will be impressed with my attention to sync precision in my files), I'm also the syncher for In The Groove: Rebirth (and by no accident, I impressed upon that group with my synching ability, I caught and corrected several song-cutting errors that possibly nobody else would have even recognized).
Either way, I'm 31 years old, off-sync files are a pet pieve of mine and I'm extremely picky, but I don't intend to hurt feelings over this stuff (I'm not into drama). Synching is about precision to me, so either it's precise or it's not (no feelings involved). I wouldn't care if the King of England synched a file and it was off, I would tell him (I don't care about who synched a song or who cut it, all I look at is wether it's perfect, and YES there are files I download that are perfect that I didn't sync [try Alphabet Aerobics, and Da Roots (Folk Mix) from ITG, I don't know who synched those but they were both perfect, and yes I did mention these two because they don't have standard BPM's since those are MUCH tougher to get right obviously. Anyways, my only goal here is to offer help since I appreciate the work that goes into creating these simfiles and thought I was helping with my expertise.
Oh and if you cared, you can download a re-synched Ultramix 3 pack. I offered a synched version of Ultramix 3 (just like every DDR pack) and I was told it was as good as it was going to get. Later on I guess silenttype was fixing the files and asked for the re-synched files (since Ultramix 3 was easily the toughest to sync pack spanning all DDR games). He had even caught one sync error (yes I make errors) and I verified that was true and corrected it. So there are PLENTY of examples of my synching, and if you like I can critique anyone else's work as well. All of the sync data I've provided to this site are based on the standard OFFSET established by the SM4.0 team, which is also == the ITG 2 AC globaloffset (yes all of my files IF the ITG machine could read .mp3's would play perfectly on an ITG 2 machine, BTW how did you test a simfile from this site on an ITG 2 machine, that would take re-encoding to .ogg and thus sync changes...). I don't ask for anyone to blindly accept my synchs, go ahead and test each one (in fact I'm thrilled to get constructive feedback), but don't make an idiotic statement that all my synchs suck (and NO Al, I have not said that to anyone, please quote me before making such a statement, because to be honest, I never check to see who synched what file, I just make corrections if they aren't to my standards).
Post #113 · Posted at 2009-01-09 02:36:45pm 15.4 years ago
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I know this is kind of a bit off-topic, but when's DDR HP JP going to get stepped properly?
Post #114 · Posted at 2009-01-19 05:16:02am 15.4 years ago
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What a silly argument!
Regarding FFP's files...Bigger Than Big seems to have a good sync until you get to measure 18, where it gets progressively more offsync as it goes on. Could it be that there's a small BPM change?
What a silly argument!
Regarding FFP's files...Bigger Than Big seems to have a good sync until you get to measure 18, where it gets progressively more offsync as it goes on. Could it be that there's a small BPM change?
Post #115 · Posted at 2009-02-06 11:48:28pm 15.3 years ago
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HP2 Updates:
Me and Al have figured out the HP2 audio that will be updated shortly and and in more impressive news managed to rip all the banners!
Expect updates SOON!
Me and Al have figured out the HP2 audio that will be updated shortly and and in more impressive news managed to rip all the banners!
Expect updates SOON!
Post #116 · Posted at 2009-02-07 12:32:46am 15.3 years ago
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HP2 Updates:
Me and Al have figured out the HP2 audio that will be updated shortly and and in more impressive news managed to rip all the banners!
Expect updates SOON!
Me and Al have figured out the HP2 audio that will be updated shortly and and in more impressive news managed to rip all the banners!
Expect updates SOON!
Awesome! Will the same apply to FFP?
Post #117 · Posted at 2009-02-07 12:41:03am 15.3 years ago
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All Wii games cracked as of today!
Post #118 · Posted at 2009-02-19 09:17:28am 15.3 years ago
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nice.
so... the quality was 192kbps, 32khz...:shock:
so... the quality was 192kbps, 32khz...:shock:
Post #119 · Posted at 2009-02-19 09:53:57am 15.3 years ago
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Yup, 32KHz as that's how the game stored it as.
Post #120 · Posted at 2009-02-21 06:28:53am 15.3 years ago
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ouw my... i should work hard this time... change it to 128kbps, 44.1khz it is... :roll: