Post #1161 · Posted at 2013-03-23 09:58:02am 12.4 years ago
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Does anyone know what "upgrade kits" entail? Does it replace the whole Optiplex inside the cabinet with a new one or does it just upgrade the software? The latter would explain a few things.
I think for older cabs, they replace the old thing to a BemaniPC. I don't know whether the computer's specification changes from X3 to DDR, but as far as I know, from X to X3 they still have the same specs. I don't think dedicabs/upgracabs have different specifications cuz this won't make it standardized. The only difference probably is the software.
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Meaning what exactly? How the video looks on an upgrade X cabinet?
You know HIDDEN+/SUDDEN+ right? I'm wondering what's the cover/shutter look like since it's only available on X dedicabs above (machines with UP/DOWN menu button).
Post #1162 · Posted at 2013-03-23 11:46:25am 12.4 years ago
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Does anyone know what "upgrade kits" entail? Does it replace the whole Optiplex inside the cabinet with a new one or does it just upgrade the software? The latter would explain a few things.
I think for older cabs, they replace the old thing to a BemaniPC. I don't know whether the computer's specification changes from X3 to DDR, but as far as I know, from X to X3 they still have the same specs. I don't think dedicabs/upgracabs have different specifications cuz this won't make it standardized. The only difference probably is the software.
Quote: AeronPeryton
Meaning what exactly? How the video looks on an upgrade X cabinet?
You know HIDDEN+/SUDDEN+ right? I'm wondering what's the cover/shutter look like since it's only available on X dedicabs above (machines with UP/DOWN menu button).
Post #1163 · Posted at 2013-03-23 01:35:39pm 12.4 years ago
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Meaning what exactly? How the video looks on an upgrade X cabinet?
You know HIDDEN+/SUDDEN+ right? I'm wondering what's the cover/shutter look like since it's only available on X dedicabs above (machines with UP/DOWN menu button).
Oh, it's the exact same graphic as it was on X3. (Which I think is the same graphic from X2?)
Okay, I played on a black CRT cabinet and a different black HD cabinet...

Next year, this cabinet will have outlived the Mir space station.
The UI performance is god awful on a CRT machine, it makes the game feel like it was installed on Windows XP Media Center Edition with IE running in the background, not Windows XP Embedded. However, the actual gameplay is miraculously still spot on. On the second black HD cabinet I tried I was intentionally picking songs that I knew forward and back and still only getting As. First I played Playa (Original Mix), arguably an extremely straight forward and consistent chart. For the first half of the song I sightread, for the second half I matched my rhythm to the music. I got a B, Good combo (three Goods). -_-... Onlookers would have been fooled into thinking I was intentionally Great attacking. I kept playing songs I've AAA'd in the past and realized that it wasn't just that the arrows were visually out of sync (Marvelous window visually late against the receptors), the music was also out of sync. Playing by the music, I had to intentionally hit the arrows a half second late to get a Marvelous. And this wasn't just one song, it was all the songs I played. I kept switching back and forth between visually locking onto the arrows and going by the music and it caused me to zero in on either late Perfects or Greats. And I think I have a clue as to why.
The revision number of DDR is different depending on which machine you play it on. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when X3 was out it was J:A:A no matter what cabinet it was installed on. When DDR launched I pointed out that the revision number started with a very odd J:C:A, implying that the software underwent a lot of major revisions before launching (The very first DDR and DDR X2 launched with a revision of J:B:A). Then I saw this:
On a black HD cabinet (The X series), the revision is lowered to J:A:A.

And on a CRT cabinet (both the black and red), it says J:B:A.

It doesn't strike me as a coincidence that the earliest revision is the most difficult for me to MA on. Did they really fork the release for each type of machine? There are obviously better DDR players than me, but now that all the machines are running the same game, the easiest one for me to play on is ironically the new, white machines. There's a visual lag on the LCDs still (compared to CRTs), but if I play by sound it's dead on. The CRT machines are a close second because I can return to the old EXTREME timing (sightread and hit the arrow a hair before they completely overlap the receptors). But DDR running on a black HD cabinet is an unfortunately terrible experience. As if they only calibrated the HD version of the game on the white cabinets, or they're running the new software on the old hardware and accuracy is lost as a result. Even though the HD screens on the black cabinets look so much nicer than the cheaper ones on the white cabinets that have blur and ghosting issues, it's not worth it for me to re-calibrate my brain just to compensate.
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Post #1164 · Posted at 2013-03-23 01:49:09pm 12.4 years ago
4:3 cabinet.
I Think,If this cabinet is sold in my country,it will have alternative for dance game carbinet apart of PIU.
But in Thailand(the land of lie) not been sold since the long time.(final sold in 2008(DDR X AC))
I Think,If this cabinet is sold in my country,it will have alternative for dance game carbinet apart of PIU.
But in Thailand(the land of lie) not been sold since the long time.(final sold in 2008(DDR X AC))

Post #1165 · Posted at 2013-03-23 02:06:36pm 12.4 years ago
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Post #1166 · Posted at 2013-03-23 02:51:05pm 12.4 years ago
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I find it weird that Jupiter ~Bringer of Jollity~ would be removed, especially since the composition is (AFAIK) in the public domain.
Has PLEIADES PRODUCTION ever been identified? Googling it would lead me to a production company in New York City...
Has PLEIADES PRODUCTION ever been identified? Googling it would lead me to a production company in New York City...
Post #1167 · Posted at 2013-03-23 06:05:04pm 12.4 years ago
Quote: AeronPeryton
The revision number of DDR is different depending on which machine you play it on. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when X3 was out it was J:A:A no matter what cabinet it was installed on.
Public Service Announcement on Konami Software ID Codes:
J= Japan
A=Asia
U=US
J:A:A=Japan Type A cabinet (DDR X/720p cabinet)
J:B:A=Japan Type B cabinet (Legacy DDR cabinet/640x480)
J:C:A=Japan Type C cabinet (DDR 2013 "white" cabinet)
(yes for some reason they decided X-style cabinet is "A" type instead of a Legacy :facepalm: )
Post #1168 · Posted at 2013-03-23 06:09:02pm 12.4 years ago
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I just noticed Konmai botched up some of the graphics on 4:3 cabs... stage number indicators don't line up exactly on the center (most notably when it says EXTRA), and combo text is slightly clipped on the right end. I'll put some pics when I get back.
Post #1169 · Posted at 2013-03-23 06:22:53pm 12.4 years ago
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Public Service Announcement on Konami Software ID Codes:
J= Japan
A=Asia
U=US
J:A:A=Japan Type A cabinet (DDR X/720p cabinet)
J:B:A=Japan Type B cabinet (Legacy DDR cabinet/640x480)
J:C:A=Japan Type C cabinet (DDR 2013 "white" cabinet)
(yes for some reason they decided X-style cabinet is "A" type instead of a Legacy :facepalm: )
J= Japan
A=Asia
U=US
J:A:A=Japan Type A cabinet (DDR X/720p cabinet)
J:B:A=Japan Type B cabinet (Legacy DDR cabinet/640x480)
J:C:A=Japan Type C cabinet (DDR 2013 "white" cabinet)
(yes for some reason they decided X-style cabinet is "A" type instead of a Legacy :facepalm: )
Welcome to ZIv.
What you just stated was not always the case.
Post #1170 · Posted at 2013-03-23 06:40:07pm 12.4 years ago
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When DDR launched I pointed out that the revision number started with a very odd J:C:A, implying that the software underwent a lot of major revisions before launching (The very first DDR and DDR X2 launched with a revision of J:B:A).
Incorrect again. J:C:A, J:A:A, J:B:A are simply cabinet types and have NOTHING to do with software revisions. The revisions you speak of are easily found in date code at the end of the software ID code.
Also, thanks for the somewhat patronizing invite. Just because someone doesn't have 5000 posts doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about.
Post #1171 · Posted at 2013-03-23 06:55:02pm 12.4 years ago
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A lot of DDR games were listed as JAA, some were JAB, which I've always taken to mean a major/minor revision since work on the game began. These labels have been around since the beginning, the numerical dates weren't added until DDR was given eAmuse support. If what you said has to do with cabinet type then why was the original DanceDanceRevolution labeled JBA?
I wasn't patronizing you or claiming that you don't know anything. I welcomed you because that was your second post.
I wasn't patronizing you or claiming that you don't know anything. I welcomed you because that was your second post.
Post #1172 · Posted at 2013-03-23 07:52:31pm 12.4 years ago
Wow, i think Straight Oath D-
feels like a 14. I love the song, and the steps are amazing.

Post #1173 · Posted at 2013-03-23 08:16:36pm 12.4 years ago
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Straight Oath is a good Jp song (Y) 

Post #1174 · Posted at 2013-03-23 08:16:50pm 12.4 years ago
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I find it weird that Jupiter ~Bringer of Jollity~ would be removed, especially since the composition is (AFAIK) in the public domain.
Has PLEIADES PRODUCTION ever been identified? Googling it would lead me to a production company in New York City...
The SN2 OST mentions that PLEIADES PRODUCTION is somebody named DJ MOSH, who apparently was one of the sound producers for the Konami/Team Fortune game GRAND CROSS. No clue besides that.Has PLEIADES PRODUCTION ever been identified? Googling it would lead me to a production company in New York City...
Post #1175 · Posted at 2013-03-23 08:20:05pm 12.4 years ago
It is strange that Jupiter and L'amour la liberté never appeared in USA ver. They are good songs :x
Post #1176 · Posted at 2013-03-23 08:24:44pm 12.4 years ago
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Welcome to ZIv.
He registered on 2007 btw, just saying.
Also, this is what I was talking about:

"combo" text got slightly clipped on the right edge.
And score import technicalities for those who cares:

Scores carry over along with grades but not with score difference info and FC ring (as we all know it).
Lower, new score doesn't overwrite higher, old score (as seen up there).
If you FCed the song, the old grade will attain that FC ring (in this case, old score is a PFC but I got a green FC ring).
You can only set scores achieved in DDR2013 as target score... which in this case happens to be lower than the old score.
Oh yeah, the letter grades for scores obtained in X3 is stylized as slightly faded.
Post #1177 · Posted at 2013-03-23 09:41:01pm 12.4 years ago
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Public Service Announcement on Konami Software ID Codes:
J= Japan
A=Asia
U=US
J:A:A=Japan Type A cabinet (DDR X/720p cabinet)
J:B:A=Japan Type B cabinet (Legacy DDR cabinet/640x480)
J:C:A=Japan Type C cabinet (DDR 2013 "white" cabinet)
(yes for some reason they decided X-style cabinet is "A" type instead of a Legacy :facepalm: )
J= Japan
A=Asia
U=US
J:A:A=Japan Type A cabinet (DDR X/720p cabinet)
J:B:A=Japan Type B cabinet (Legacy DDR cabinet/640x480)
J:C:A=Japan Type C cabinet (DDR 2013 "white" cabinet)
(yes for some reason they decided X-style cabinet is "A" type instead of a Legacy :facepalm: )
Welcome to ZIv.
What you just stated was not always the case.
Swing and a miss. I can assure you that J:A:A/J:B:A refers to the style of the cabinet and not a newer revision of code.
Post #1178 · Posted at 2013-03-23 10:09:12pm 12.4 years ago
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Aren't newer revisions of code stated with the date after the letter code?
Post #1179 · Posted at 2013-03-23 10:46:26pm 12.4 years ago
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Last updated: 2013-03-23 10:46pm
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Aren't newer revisions of code stated with the date after the letter code?
Yes, the code should be in the form of MDX:J:_:A:YYYYMMDDNN, _ indicates the cabinet type as detailed above, and the last 8 digits is the revision date (I think NN is used in the super rare case of multiple patches in a day lol), right now it's MDX:J:_:A:2013031000
I don't think these was posted before?
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Post #1180 · Posted at 2013-03-23 11:05:06pm 12.4 years ago
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I can't wait for this new mix to come to America! Anyways, I think the rainbow colors means that Konami and DDR supports gay rights, my guess.