Post #81 · Posted at 2015-03-13 03:58:27pm 10.2 years ago
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Translating that to today's market, using the same cabinet, it would now come out to cost about $16500/£11100/€15500.
Still considerably expensive, but definitely thousands less, which then brings up the question, how much does it cost to make one of the new white cabinets, considering the stripped out the excess lights, and the lighting of the panels, and reduced the size of the speakers, it should be less, yet I can't find anything on the price of a white cabinet in japan.
And second, considering that many arcades have older machines mostly in the 573 era, with a few python 2 and x-era ones...though the x-era ones are probably beyond help at this rate. Why doesn't Konami offer hardware upgrades to the older machines in the US like they do in Japan? I've grown very doubtful about Konami saying they couldn't for the US market.
And as far as I've looked for the AAMA, I still don't see anything for Konami.
Still considerably expensive, but definitely thousands less, which then brings up the question, how much does it cost to make one of the new white cabinets, considering the stripped out the excess lights, and the lighting of the panels, and reduced the size of the speakers, it should be less, yet I can't find anything on the price of a white cabinet in japan.
And second, considering that many arcades have older machines mostly in the 573 era, with a few python 2 and x-era ones...though the x-era ones are probably beyond help at this rate. Why doesn't Konami offer hardware upgrades to the older machines in the US like they do in Japan? I've grown very doubtful about Konami saying they couldn't for the US market.
And as far as I've looked for the AAMA, I still don't see anything for Konami.
Used white cabinets seem to be going for around $10k shipped to CA; few machines are available, though.
As for upgrades, beatsgo is right about legacy hardware. Realize that every black cabinets (573-based mixes) is now over 10 years old. Many are close to 16. The boards/cabling/etc in these machines are going to start dying, and it's hard to find replacement parts. They probably also think that anyone who is running an older cabinet is probably not interested in upgrading anyway.
Post #82 · Posted at 2015-03-15 01:08:58am 10.2 years ago
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So, it's back to "screw KONAMI" then?
Post #83 · Posted at 2015-03-15 01:43:58am 10.2 years ago
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i love the people that say screw konami yet when round 1 get's to their state they'll forgive them because they're on official eamuse
other countries have a right to say screw konami though because they're basically sol
other countries have a right to say screw konami though because they're basically sol
Post #84 · Posted at 2015-03-15 03:06:25am 10.2 years ago
I say wait until e-Amusement Global is up next week to see if they're actually adding e-Amuse support outside of East Asia. If they don't, then feel free to e-mail Konami pictures of your middle fingers.
Post #85 · Posted at 2015-03-15 03:08:23am 10.2 years ago
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if they actually bring e-amuse over here it'll be a nice surprise but don't expect it, we've found a lot of reasons why they wouldn't do it ourselves
Post #86 · Posted at 2015-03-15 09:25:47am 10.2 years ago
It's just too early to say what's gonna happen; It's looking like that if it's really happening, people who have an existing eAmuse account (like myself) will have to A. Get a new account (that's the best case scenario if the big picture is that they are going to make a localized version of IIDX/DDR, even if it's only for the R1 locations). or B. Lie out of our asses and say we're still from Japan in order to still be able to play those games, because I don't know if/think they are gonna change the game(s) just to accompany the American players who can go to those arcades. >>
Post #87 · Posted at 2015-03-15 02:16:25pm 10.2 years ago
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couldnt konami run a service for north and south america online, where you can play from the PC, and also against players using the arcade machine, globally,and charged a fixed amount for the online service registration"? since arcade machines are basically PC's now, konami could offer prepaid cards (ex-like playstation network) which you can buy in major stores, which would add credits to the account to play popular arcade games, therefore reducing pirated games on PC's, and creating revenue for konami, and all thats needed is a team to translate the program and run the global servers.
Post #88 · Posted at 2015-03-15 05:00:41pm 10.2 years ago
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The provlem is that the bemani games use a diffrent special type of PC designed for bemani games. This PC is diffrent from normal ones. And also, music games arent very popular except for Just Dance.
Post #89 · Posted at 2015-03-15 05:14:30pm 10.2 years ago
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Quote: SomethingRandom
The provlem is that the bemani games use a diffrent special type of PC designed for bemani games. This PC is diffrent from normal ones. And also, music games arent very popular except for Just Dance.
you can definitely run bemani games on normal computers.
Post #90 · Posted at 2015-03-15 06:21:07pm 10.2 years ago
Never mind. I still feel like Konami doesnt wanna relase BEMANI games outside of Asia becuase of marketing. They rather relase a new soccer game or Yu-gi-oh over BEMANI stuff in the usa.
Btw Im not sure how Bemani PCs work.
Btw Im not sure how Bemani PCs work.
Post #91 · Posted at 2015-03-15 09:49:44pm 10.2 years ago
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Quote: SomethingRandom
The provlem is that the bemani games use a diffrent special type of PC designed for bemani games. This PC is diffrent from normal ones. And also, music games arent very popular except for Just Dance.
you can definitely run bemani games on normal computers.
Agreed, and I'm witness to that as well. Bemani games that ran here in the US are all setup on regular computers.
Post #92 · Posted at 2015-03-15 10:53:29pm 10.2 years ago
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Quote: SomethingRandom
Btw Im not sure how Bemani PCs work.
inside bemani machines is a normal PC with specific processors, RAM, etc. the game is installed on the PC and it runs like you would any normal computer program. the PCs even run windows. i've seen games like pop'n music starting up at arcades, it just autoruns a program
your PC could probably even be a good bemani PC
Post #93 · Posted at 2015-03-16 09:49:34am 10.2 years ago
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Music games arent very popular except for Just Dance.
Rock Band 4 says hello.
Post #94 · Posted at 2015-03-16 02:09:44pm 10.2 years ago
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Never mind. I still feel like Konami doesnt wanna relase BEMANI games outside of Asia becuase of marketing.
there is a lot of business issues behind it. songs have to be licensed for each country separately, often at increased cost. brand names have to be copyrighted, the game has to be localized, distributors have to be contracted, local manufacturers have to be engaged OR konami has to ship machines from japan at extreme cost. different countries have different laws regarding manufacturing, too (this is why EU didn't get SuperNOVA2; regulations regarding the amount of (i think) lead that can be sold prevented Python 2 board from being marketed any further in EU
it's a huge pain and time/money sink to make the games possible to be played. it's not just as simple as chucking a hard drive across the ocean
Post #95 · Posted at 2015-03-16 04:25:53pm 10.2 years ago
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Quote: ranatalus
Quote: SomethingRandom
Never mind. I still feel like Konami doesnt wanna relase BEMANI games outside of Asia becuase of marketing.
there is a lot of business issues behind it. songs have to be licensed for each country separately, often at increased cost. brand names have to be copyrighted, the game has to be localized, distributors have to be contracted, local manufacturers have to be engaged OR konami has to ship machines from japan at extreme cost. different countries have different laws regarding manufacturing, too (this is why EU didn't get SuperNOVA2; regulations regarding the amount of (i think) lead that can be sold prevented Python 2 board from being marketed any further in EU
it's a huge pain and time/money sink to make the games possible to be played. it's not just as simple as chucking a hard drive across the ocean
Bingo!
I think the opposite of Konami, I think they do want to bring their Bemani series games outside of Japan. Hell they even tested SuperNova 2 and beatmania IIDX GOLD in the US since there's an interest here. It's just as what ranatalus said, the business aspect is what's holding back Konami from doing what they want to do: take over the world.
Post #96 · Posted at 2015-03-16 06:57:41pm 10.2 years ago
so the e-amuse site is having a 5 hour maintenance as opposed to a 2 hour maintenance today
not sure if this is a regular thing, pretty certain it is
http://mainte.eagate.573.jp/gate/per_mainte_p.html
not sure if this is a regular thing, pretty certain it is
http://mainte.eagate.573.jp/gate/per_mainte_p.html
Post #97 · Posted at 2015-03-16 08:12:24pm 10.2 years ago
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5 hour maintenance is regular, but obviously not daily.
Post #98 · Posted at 2015-03-17 10:50:23pm 10.2 years ago
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There's a new announce:
[Announcement] Manteinance notice due the start of the global service.
Thank you very much for your continuated support of eAMUSEMENT system.
With the beginning of the global service, we will have the server manteinance. During this manteinance period, you won't be able to log-in in the eAMUSEMENT service.
[Manteinance Time]
March 19, 2015 (Thursday), 5:00 to 7:00
* Please take note that the manteinance service will be subject to changes.
Thank you for your cooperation and we apologize beforehand for any inconvenience during this time period. Thank you.
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Source: http://p.eagate.573.jp/gate/p/mypage/site_info_skeleton.html?cip=eAGATE_INFO&pid=PC-WEB&msgtype=25&mid=29455
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The thing is real.
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【お知らせ】3/19(木) グローバルサービス開始に伴うメンテナンス実施のお知らせ (2015.03.12)
いつもeAMUSEMENTをご利用いただきありがとうございます。
3/19からのグローバルサービス開始に伴い、下記時間帯にて､サーバーメンテナンスを実施いたします。
メンテナンス中は、eAMUSEMENTサイトにログインする事ができません。
ご注意ください。
【メンテナンス時間】
2015/3/19(木) 朝5:00～7:00
※メンテナンス時間は変更になる場合がございます。あらかじめご了承ください。
お客様にはご迷惑をおかけいたしますが､ご理解､ご協力いただけますよう、お願い申し上げます｡
--いつもeAMUSEMENTをご利用いただきありがとうございます。
3/19からのグローバルサービス開始に伴い、下記時間帯にて､サーバーメンテナンスを実施いたします。
メンテナンス中は、eAMUSEMENTサイトにログインする事ができません。
ご注意ください。
【メンテナンス時間】
2015/3/19(木) 朝5:00～7:00
※メンテナンス時間は変更になる場合がございます。あらかじめご了承ください。
お客様にはご迷惑をおかけいたしますが､ご理解､ご協力いただけますよう、お願い申し上げます｡
[Announcement] Manteinance notice due the start of the global service.
Thank you very much for your continuated support of eAMUSEMENT system.
With the beginning of the global service, we will have the server manteinance. During this manteinance period, you won't be able to log-in in the eAMUSEMENT service.
[Manteinance Time]
March 19, 2015 (Thursday), 5:00 to 7:00
* Please take note that the manteinance service will be subject to changes.
Thank you for your cooperation and we apologize beforehand for any inconvenience during this time period. Thank you.
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Source: http://p.eagate.573.jp/gate/p/mypage/site_info_skeleton.html?cip=eAGATE_INFO&pid=PC-WEB&msgtype=25&mid=29455
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The thing is real.
Post #99 · Posted at 2015-03-17 10:53:34pm 10.2 years ago
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Of course it's real, but whether they are expanding the actual eAMUSE service for arcade operators out to other territories is another story.
Post #100 · Posted at 2015-03-17 11:00:29pm 10.2 years ago
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(2015.03.12) = announcement date
really guys
really guys