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Post #901 · Posted at 2011-03-23 09:21:30pm 14.3 years ago

Offline al2k4
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Can someone please comment on the sync of the official category.

Sync seems dead on for the most part, even, surprisingly, deltaMAX which has BPM changes all over the place and moves up and down wildly, which I found strange.

Some feel a touch early, like La libertad and Shine.

The part in ICE ICE BABY where it goes to 120 then down to 104 is totally off, but the rest of the song is dead-on.

Pluto The First feels totally off in many parts but that's just how it is. KONAMI has no idea how to sync the damned thing, especially with those awful steps.

Thanks for the feedback. At least I know the global offset is "dead on". Smile

Post #902 · Posted at 2011-03-24 12:24:20am 14.3 years ago

Post #903 · Posted at 2011-03-24 12:44:07am 14.3 years ago

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Dang.. They changed the banner design of Theory of Eternity...
Unless that design is jubeat exclusive...

Post #904 · Posted at 2011-03-24 01:23:06am 14.3 years ago

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@al2k4: actually it's not related to your global offset you made. It's something they need to change the way how they actually sync per song. I bother myself to share you the sm files of selected simfiles that need to be re-synced, if that interests you. As a general rule (as always), they should sync together with the any kind of beat (4th beat in particular), beat usually in drum, bass form etc. Usually, voices, other instruments or sound effects don't coincide with the beat, so i found some simfiles there in official category that they actually sync with vocals or other instruments but not in beat distance. Out of 35 simfiles in the DDR X2 Official category, 23 songs need to be re-synced, the rest have good sync. Here is the data that i gathered. Try to play this sm files and you will know that there are certain songs that have the actual beat (drum or bass etc.) come late after everything (songs marked with * ).

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3320/syncevaluation.png

here is zip file with the selected sm files that need to be re-synced. I only changed the offset there.
http://www.mediafire.com/?hsb43d9by0ni2yb

EDIT: Other songs not listed are said to be synced correctly with or w/o assist tick, and so the songs listed above that don't have the "*" mark.

Post #905 · Posted at 2011-03-24 02:26:15am 14.3 years ago

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Thanks for the sync feedback, razorblade.

On some files, your sync changes do make sense such as A Brighter Day and Your Angel, which when I tried my original sync they were in fact too early.

In others the new sync makes it off sync for me where the step would come too late after the bass beat. One that comes to mind is roppongi EVOLVED ver. B.

I think the entire category needs another check sooner or later, but I appreciate you looking into those for me. Smile

Post #906 · Posted at 2011-03-24 04:46:01am 14.3 years ago

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As i have said earlier, songs listed above with * mark (thus includes roppongi EVOLVED and Your Angel) actually have beats that come too late after everything else, thus you may hear like off when just listening, especially when assist tick is enabled. Try playing in either basic or difficult of roppongi e. versions, you can easily read their timing using new offset, because no matter what beats come late, steps still sync to these beats.

Post #907 · Posted at 2011-03-24 06:42:40am 14.3 years ago

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It feels late if I do put it back 0.030~, on all difficulties and renders it inconsistent with the other files.

Post #908 · Posted at 2011-03-25 09:27:41am 14.3 years ago

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Replaced Theory of Eternity mp3 with a much, much better sounding copy.
Added S-Heavy

Post #909 · Posted at 2011-03-25 11:53:35am 14.3 years ago

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I see some of the newer AC songs are being moved to the official category. Good job to all...

Post #910 · Posted at 2011-03-25 07:55:24pm 14.3 years ago

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Added for sm file - Theory of Eternity S-Challenge & D-HeavyChallenge
http://www.mediafire.com/?1x9odovb4vovpl2

Post #911 · Posted at 2011-04-01 01:44:24am 14.3 years ago

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Why don't we move some simfiles over to the official category? They seem fine.
And how about Theory of Eternity?

Post #912 · Posted at 2011-04-01 01:50:19am 14.3 years ago

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The official category uses step data, offsets, and BPM values directly from the X2 AC data. When that data is parsed and converted it will be uploaded.
http://i.imgur.com/ros63.gif

Post #913 · Posted at 2011-04-01 03:11:17am 14.3 years ago

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Theory of Eternity updated.

Quote: Arctic Wolves
The official category uses step data, offsets, and BPM values directly from the X2 AC data. When that data is parsed and converted it will be uploaded.

meaning to say, if all audio aren't from X2 AC data, individual song's offset should be changed, right?

Post #914 · Posted at 2011-04-01 03:15:40am 14.3 years ago

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All the audio in the official category is from X2 AC as well, but yes, those files would not match up well with audio from other sources.
http://i.imgur.com/ros63.gif

Post #915 · Posted at 2011-04-01 03:37:22am 14.3 years ago

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Added banner for ToE

Post #916 · Posted at 2011-04-01 04:54:47am 14.3 years ago

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Okay, about when will that happen?

Post #917 · Posted at 2011-04-02 05:44:27am 14.3 years ago

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For the recently uploaded simfiles, artists should be:

Sota F. feat. Anna (not ANNA)
DJ YOSHITAKA-G feat.Michael a la mode (not Mode)
http://i.imgur.com/ros63.gif

Post #918 · Posted at 2011-04-02 09:00:31am 14.3 years ago

Offline Nicolas
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What Challenge charts were unlocked recently? It was on the news feed but provided no info about the unlocks
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Post #919 · Posted at 2011-04-02 09:08:21am 14.3 years ago

Offline Ashura96
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The 4 challenge charts from Replicant D Action...and maybe separate selection of the challenge charts of Chinese vocal songs.

Post #920 · Posted at 2011-04-02 09:09:15am 14.3 years ago

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冥 (CHALLENGE)
POSSESSION (CHALLENGE)
New Decade (CHALLENGE)
Anti-Matter (CHALLENGE)
Valkyrie dimension (CHALLENGE)

They were all previously available in MARATHON mode, but that requires PASELI and many players outside Japan don't have it.
The Chinese vocal songs were already unlocked December 1st.
http://i.imgur.com/ros63.gif
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