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Post #9001 · Posted at 2011-04-10 10:57:40pm 14.2 years ago

Offline boomba
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"~ The evolution has begun ! ~"
@ pereditus : ah, saia gk kesal sama emi. cuma, utk news dari sana, sudah tidak ada yg bisa dipercaya klo itu dari org emi.

DDR X2 mw datang atau tdk jg tdk masalah. kan ada stepmania Happy

Post #9002 · Posted at 2011-04-11 05:32:42am 14.2 years ago

Offline Ignitus
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"Howdy"
@boomba, betul itu. Walaupun kita nggak bisa mainin X2 ACnya, tapi kan masih ada simfienya buat StepMania Smile
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Post #9003 · Posted at 2011-04-11 04:19:59pm 14.2 years ago

Offline NeoRevenG
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"Secret Agent"
Hola !

Yay.... DDR X nya udah ON ! Very Happy

Begitu pula mesin arcade shooting RAMBO buatan SEGA. Roll Eyes

ehem...... begitu pula technik* Annoyed

1 x main DDR X = Rp 3.900,- dapat 3 lagu. Kondisi pad = Perfect. Fully Unlocked + Edit ON plus ada puluhan Editan di dalamnya.

Saya juga sempat mainin Editan Seduction Vocal Remix lv 13 dgn ciri khas Freezes di bagian awal, long stream di akhir lagu.

BTW, apakah di DDR X Judgement penaltynya lebih "ringan" drpd DDR sebelumnya ? (terutama SN2)

Walaupun kondisi mesin di set Normal (Diset pada level 4 as Default)

Soalnya saya bisa lolos tuh HDV Challenge , FAXX Heavy , Pluto Relinquish Heavy utk pertama kalinya. Shocked Very Happy

Emang DDR X yg di Jakarta dan sekitarnya juga seperti gitu ?

Jadi lifebar nya gak lgsg cepat habis walau ada salah dikit2 spt Almost or Miss asal cepat dicover sama Perfect / Great.

BTW lagi, meski udah direrating masih banyak lagu2 DDR yg salah rating juga.

Jupiter Heavy = 12 ? Nah..... 10 atuh ! Afronova Beginner = 5 ? 3 atuh ! Annoyed
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Post #9004 · Posted at 2011-04-11 07:39:30pm 14.2 years ago

Offline Ignitus
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"Howdy"
Wah.. Korupsi tuh.. Ratingnya ditambah-tambahin
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Post #9005 · Posted at 2011-04-11 07:40:17pm 14.2 years ago

Offline EarthPluto
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"For Aiur~!"
@oom neoreveng: Lifebar di DDR X emang gampang naek.. jadinya gk gampang turun... Kalo rating, itu gk salah kok.. Soalnya dari scale 1-20.. Harusnya sih bener.. Diitung dari BPM,jumlah step,dsb..

Post #9006 · Posted at 2011-04-12 10:20:54am 14.2 years ago

Offline neomeo
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rating yang paling pas itu DDR 3rd mix. harusnya sih lagu2 yg dire-rate itu utk lagu2 kelas berat. rasanya aneh klo liat rating buat zero... misalnya. tinggal expand rating lebih dari 10 aj.

Post #9007 · Posted at 2011-04-12 09:03:45pm 14.2 years ago

Offline boomba
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"~ The evolution has begun ! ~"
Sejak diexpand jadi 20 level, jd aneh rasanya deh ... Oops

Post #9008 · Posted at 2011-04-13 04:29:28pm 14.2 years ago

Offline NeoRevenG
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"Secret Agent"
Or Konami sendiri yang bingung.

Kan yang bikin stepchart bukan 1 orang aja kan ?

Itu bisa jadi penafsiran antar tiap stepchart maker bisa lain. Confused
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Post #9009 · Posted at 2011-04-14 10:04:16am 14.2 years ago

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apa tdk ada standar dari konami ya? semisal kriteria untuk level tertentu

Post #9010 · Posted at 2011-04-14 08:16:44pm 14.2 years ago

Offline boomba
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"~ The evolution has begun ! ~"
tadi siang saia menyempatkan diri ke gm, masih sn2

Post #9011 · Posted at 2011-04-15 04:32:51pm 14.1 years ago

Offline Liquid_ice
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Quote: Ignitus
@Liquid_ice
Yah... podo wae mas Annoyed

mending u yg ke teras kota...
DDR SN2, 5 stage + join premium pula... 2700 1x maen...

Post #9012 · Posted at 2011-04-16 12:56:00pm 14.1 years ago

Offline boomba
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"~ The evolution has begun ! ~"
Mending di mag. join pre nya masih nyala, cuma 2500 lebih cuan

Post #9013 · Posted at 2011-04-16 01:36:30pm 14.1 years ago

Offline NeoRevenG
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"Secret Agent"
Quote: Liquid_ice
Quote: Ignitus
@Liquid_ice
Yah... podo wae mas Annoyed

mending u yg ke teras kota...
DDR SN2, 5 stage + join premium pula... 2700 1x maen...

5 Stage by Default ?? :eek 2700 dapat 5 lagu ?? Tongue

Gamecentre mana tuh ?

Bagaimana kondisi padnya ?

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Post #9014 · Posted at 2011-04-16 06:39:23pm 14.1 years ago

Offline Ignitus
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"Howdy"
Shocked SN2, 5 song = 2700

weeehh..... Ajib... Shocked
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Post #9015 · Posted at 2011-04-16 07:20:59pm 14.1 years ago

Offline NXCProduction
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"Annoyed"
SN2, 5 song + Joint Premium = 2700?

game center malang kalah neh,,,
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Post #9016 · Posted at 2011-04-16 08:12:24pm 14.1 years ago

Offline DSMLMD
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5 song ? Disini mah 3 song mulu... kagak pernah sampai 7 song atau endless (ngarep Laughing Out Loud )

Post #9017 · Posted at 2011-04-18 04:59:10am 14.1 years ago

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"Annoyed"
7 songs? Harganya pasti tinggi banget...

Quote: EarthPluto
@oom neoreveng: Lifebar di DDR X emang gampang naek.. jadinya gk gampang turun... Kalo rating, itu gk salah kok.. Soalnya dari scale 1-20.. Harusnya sih bener.. Diitung dari BPM,jumlah step,dsb..

bener... Menurutku sih algoritmanya sederhana. Cuma (jumlah rate Stream + Voltage + Air + Freeze + Chaos) * 4 (untuk X keatas) dan * 2 (untuk SN2 kebawah). Komponen yang out of border tetap dianggap 1.00 dan kelebihanya ditambahkan ke komponen yang belum ber-rate 1.00


example:
satu lagu punya Voltage 0.50, Stream 0.65, Air 1.50 (ini kayak Dynamite Rave), Freeze 0.00, Chaos 0.00. Maka ratenya adalah:

X = [0.50 + 0.65 + 1.00 + (0.50) + 0.00 + 0.00] * 4 = 10.6 (ntar mungkin jadi 10 atau 11).
SN2 = [0.50 + 0.65 + 1.00 + (0.50) + 0.00 + 0.00] * 2 = 5.3 ( mungkin 5 atau 6)

Atau yang gampang:
Satu lagu punya Stream 0.40, Voltage 0.30, Air 0.25, Freeze 0.20, Chaos 0.00.

Maka rate-nya:
X = [0.40 + 0.30 + 0.25 + 0.20 + 0.00] * 4 = 4.6 (mungkin 4 atau 5).

SN2 = [0.40 + 0.30 + 0.25 + 0.20 + 0.00] * 2 = 2.3 (mungkin 2).

Ini cuma menurutku...
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Post #9018 · Posted at 2011-04-18 02:02:52pm 14.1 years ago

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"Donut is Science"
Quote: NXCProduction
7 songs? Harganya pasti tinggi banget...

Quote: EarthPluto
@oom neoreveng: Lifebar di DDR X emang gampang naek.. jadinya gk gampang turun... Kalo rating, itu gk salah kok.. Soalnya dari scale 1-20.. Harusnya sih bener.. Diitung dari BPM,jumlah step,dsb..

bener... Menurutku sih algoritmanya sederhana. Cuma (jumlah rate Stream + Voltage + Air + Freeze + Chaos) * 4 (untuk X keatas) dan * 2 (untuk SN2 kebawah). Komponen yang out of border tetap dianggap 1.00 dan kelebihanya ditambahkan ke komponen yang belum ber-rate 1.00


example:
satu lagu punya Voltage 0.50, Stream 0.65, Air 1.50 (ini kayak Dynamite Rave), Freeze 0.00, Chaos 0.00. Maka ratenya adalah:

X = [0.50 + 0.65 + 1.00 + (0.50) + 0.00 + 0.00] * 4 = 10.6 (ntar mungkin jadi 10 atau 11).
SN2 = [0.50 + 0.65 + 1.00 + (0.50) + 0.00 + 0.00] * 2 = 5.3 ( mungkin 5 atau 6)

Atau yang gampang:
Satu lagu punya Stream 0.40, Voltage 0.30, Air 0.25, Freeze 0.20, Chaos 0.00.

Maka rate-nya:
X = [0.40 + 0.30 + 0.25 + 0.20 + 0.00] * 4 = 4.6 (mungkin 4 atau 5).

SN2 = [0.40 + 0.30 + 0.25 + 0.20 + 0.00] * 2 = 2.3 (mungkin 2).

Ini cuma menurutku...
kalo menurut gw gini
contoh Stream 0.6 Voltage 0.8 Air 0.2 chaos 0.2 Freeze 0.4
maksimal kan tiap 1 level radar pasti ratenya 1.00
kalo 5 kan 5.00
sedangkan DDR SN2 levelnya maksimal 10
lalu DDRX levelnya maksimal 20 (entah paling yang ane tahu 19)
mungkin algoritmanya begini
S=Stream,V=Voltage,C=Chaos,A=Air,F=Freeze
ratingnya paling=(S+V+C+A+F) x 2 (di DDRSN2)
atau (S+V+C+A+F) x 4 (untuk DDRX)

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Post #9019 · Posted at 2011-04-18 04:18:26pm 14.1 years ago

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"Secret Agent"
Saya sih gak perlu algoritma yg rumit buat nentuin foot rating.

Lagu 200 BPM an kayak Afronova, banyak arrow di posisi 4/4 ketukan dan nyaris tanpa henti itu udah cukup di rating

4,5 kaki or lv 6 DDR X.

Lagu 2 agak lambat 120 -130 an kalau udah ada bbrp 8th notes itu udah cocok dirating 5 kaki or lv 7 DDR X.

Jadi,patokannya cukup dari lagu2 tertentu yg punya kemiripan stepchart dan density serta speed.

Misal, walau Wonderland UKS MIX Heavy banyak 8th notesnya, but krn lagunya agak lambat 128 BPM plus dikit lompat, lebih

cocokdirating 7 kaki or lv 10 DDR X. Lain sama Healing Vision Angelic Mix Heavy yg juga sama banyak 8th notesnya but running

on 196 BPM and banyak combo (267 combo Wonderland vs. 503 combo HV Angelic Mix) gak mungkin cocok dirating 7 kaki

kan benar sekali dirating 9 kaki or lv 13 DDR X.

Betapa lucunya Konami merating Happy Wedding Heavy = 10 DDR X padahal secara stepchart lebih cocok 6,5 kaki or lv 9 DDR X.

Dan bagaimana bisa Jupiter Heavy di rating 12 yg setara dgn Dead End Heavy lv 12 ? Padahal Jupiter Heavy lebih gampang ketimbang

Dead End Heavy . And how can Afronova Nonstop Megamix Challenge dirating 10 sementara Brazilian Anthem HeavyHeavy = 12 ?

Afronova Nonstop Megamix walau stepchart terlihat mudah but density arrownya dan faktor speed lebih cocok dirating 11 DDR X

dan Brazilian Anthem Heavy lebih cocok 11 juga. Sama sulitnya. Sama 8 kakinya.

Intinya, jangan mererating berdasarkan banyaknya 8th notes or notes2 lainnya,pertimbangkan faktor speed, jump, freezes dll.

Groove Radar gak gitu ngefect banget. Walau Healing Vision HeavyHeavy Voltagenya tinggi tapi itu kan semata2 krn faktor BPM

yang sengaja direndahin terus diidi banyak 16th notes sehingga Voltagenya kelihatan bengkak gitu. Itu cuma ilusi semata.

Sehingga walau Healing Vision Heavy Voltagenya mungkin setara MAX 300 Heavy tapi isi stepchartnya kan gak 10 kaki, malah 8

kaki beneran or 12 di DDR X.

Saya sih bisa lebih lihai menilai rating kaki yg lebih pas. Berdasarkan pengalaman saya bermain DDR yg udah cukup lama.


BTW, DDR X yg di Fun World Grand City Mall Surabaya sepertinya impor lgsg dari Japan.

Itu kemarin setelah saya lihat dari best 30 songs, ternyata number 1 = On The Break ! Shocked

Disusul number 2 = Saber Wing dan FAXX, Pluto Relinquish dll masuk urutan 30 besar.

Afronova malah gak masuk sama sekali dalam 30 besar. Itu tandanya DDR ini tidak pernah dimainkan di Indo.

Kalau di Indo kan banyak AfronovaManiacs shg lagu Afronova pasti bakal nomor 1 di urutan Best 30. Or setidaknya masuk 30 besar.

Hm... aturan Extra dan Encore Extra Stage di DDR X agak dikit lain eh. Confused

Masak Random song on Final Stage on any difficulty tidak bisa mengakses Extra Stage walau nilai AA sekalipun ?


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Post #9020 · Posted at 2011-04-18 05:14:36pm 14.1 years ago

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@NeoRevenG: That's an old news for getting Extra Stage at DDR X. Untuk dapat bisa masuk ke Extra Stage, harus main lagu yang warnanya merah... Sudah tidak bisa memainkan lagu yang random.
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