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Post #841 · Posted at 2025-12-02 10:26:51pm 2.8 months ago

Offline Silver Spirit
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CUE CUE RESCUE, O JIYA, and ミカヅキ:コネクト will also be getting brand new Challenge charts. I'm curious to see what CCR's will look like, I remember the Heavy for that one being about the most I would have expected out of that song.

Post #842 · Posted at 2025-12-03 12:37:01am 2.8 months ago

Offline Burtzman
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Welp, my feat of having passed all the 17s I have access to was nice while it lasted. BIG som tam Challenge is about to become the only one I can't pass.

Post #843 · Posted at 2025-12-05 05:19:21pm 2.7 months ago

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CUE CUE RESCUE Challenge slaps.


Here are the other two:
- O JIYA Challenge
- ミカヅキ:コネクト Challenge
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Post #844 · Posted at 2025-12-05 05:20:03pm 2.7 months ago

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Is O JIYA using its Xbox steps, or are they new ones?

La Senorita Challenge Doubles looks insane, but in a way that I might actually want to try, unlike most 15+ songs. I guess they had to give it some extra oomph to put some space between it and the classic Doubles chart.

Post #845 · Posted at 2025-12-05 05:22:46pm 2.7 months ago

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They're brand new, just like how starmine, CHOCOLATE PHILOSOPHY, and Concertino in Blue got new ones.
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Post #846 · Posted at 2025-12-09 11:41:03pm 2.5 months ago

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Everyone probably saw this today but it doesn't hurt to put this here too. DDR's song for BPL S5 was revealed today during the Benama stream:

https://i.imgur.com/93jsDqE.jpeg

Superior MAXXX / ???-DJ TOTTO-???

Post #847 · Posted at 2025-12-11 01:48:41am 2.5 months ago

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we got another max song before gta 6 Big Grin

Post #848 · Posted at 2025-12-11 02:15:30am 2.5 months ago

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Post #849 · Posted at 2025-12-11 11:41:21am 2.5 months ago

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All I hope is that this doesn't sound anything like Breaking the Future or Steps For Victory. The MAX series is no anime song trying to sound epic.
*insert crap bemani joke here*

Post #850 · Posted at 2025-12-11 01:13:52pm 2.5 months ago

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Welp, incoming new 19.
When do we get to see it?

Post #851 · Posted at 2025-12-11 06:46:53pm 2.5 months ago

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I want it to be an 11 on Expert and a 14 on Challenge. The reactions would be so funny.
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Post #852 · Posted at 2025-12-11 09:25:29pm 2.5 months ago

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honest question, why do ratings matter so much in the community? will a low number make the song unworthy? does a large number just make it more desirable to play?

Post #853 · Posted at 2025-12-11 10:51:23pm 2.5 months ago

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I'm gonna give a massive overexplanation as an answer to your question, so scroll to the bottom for a tl;dr.


Quote: KurodaOkiayu
honest question, why do ratings matter so much in the community?
Ratings matter, because they are effectively a measure of how difficult a chart is to play (as in, be able to complete the chart without the lifebar being depleted).
Obvious logic, but the higher the rating , the more difficult it is to play.

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will a low number make the song unworthy?
Not necessarily, but some people do like to challenge themselves to play difficult songs and, thus, would prefer charts with higher ratings. Now, that doesn't mean that lower-rated charts are worthless, as sometimes people like to either challenge themselves to get high scores on these easier charts, or even simply for the sake of fun without constantly pushing themselves with the harder charts. And low-rated charts also have their place in being easy enough so casual players can also have fun without tripping over their own feet.

However, there are also times where a song sounds like it should have a chart with a very high rating, but for some reason it doesn't and in THESE situations it could be considered less worthy to have a low-rated chart. (An easy example of this at the moment (in my opinion) is Cytokinesis, in which its hardest chart is only rated a 14 (The DDR scale is 1-19), yet the song has a very hardcore sound which could easily warrant a level 17 or 18 chart.

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does a large number just make it more desirable to play?
The answer to this question varies from person to person and song to song, so I can't exactly give a clear answer to this.
The best I can say is that people do like higher-rated charts, but only if the rhythms of the song actually fit, and if the chart itself is well-designed.

"""And if the chart itself is well-designed"""
There's no better example of how the above quote can go wrong than with the infamously bad DEAD END ("GROOVE RADAR" Special) chart. A level 18 chart with patterns that are very questionable at best and absolute dogshit at worst.


On top of all that, ratings also matter as people want an accurate measure of a song's difficulty.

For example, when "Samurai Shogun vs. Master Ninja" debuted in DDR 2014, its Expert chart was rated a Level 14. However, over the years, people have had the opinion that the chart should be a 15. Lo and behold, in DDR WORLD, the song was re-rated to a 15 (NEARLY TEN YEARS AFTER THE SONG RELEASED).


tl;dr
Low rating charts are easier and "less fun", but people do still like to play them either to get perfect scores or simply to chill.
High rating charts are more difficult and fun to play, but only if they are well-designed and as long as they don't feel unnecessary.
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Post #854 · Posted at 2025-12-11 11:29:29pm 2.5 months ago

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I think the best way to describe why people are frothing at the mouth for this one to be difficult is because it’s a boss song. Extra Savor is just unlocks in general, and unless I’m mistaken this is part of a song pack and not an unlock, so what a “boss song” is has kinda changed but a new “Max” is absolutely a boss song no matter how it’s added to the game. I don’t think most players have an issue when something like Beluga was introduced because it was a great sounding song and the chart fit. Being a lower wasn’t inherently an issue. I don’t really see a lot of the “lowers are less fun” sentiment you described. They can be slept on because players now a days will often one shot the PFC then move on, but generally speaking if a chart is good and appropriate it will get love.

A higher number doesn’t make the song more desirable to play for most of the community, I think there’s a tendency to overestimate how many players are actually passing 18s and 19s. When something like this drops players want it to be hard so they can see how the top players handle it. There’s keyboard players too, but quite frankly 4 key has no business being in the discussion with 4 panel and I couldn’t possibly care less if someone who hasn’t played on a pad in years (or even ever) finds a song to be under charted. There’s so many options for them to get the kind of content that they want, a game meant to be played on pad simply shouldn’t cater to them. I honestly think the average player will get the most excited for a new hard chart in the 14-16 range, just based on the reception I see for new songs and charts. Others can still be well received like Funk Boogie challenge, players definitively seem to like that, but it’s hard to deny players are more excited for the 14-16 charts being added than a 12 or even a 17. Players generally don’t want a song to be an 18 or a 19, but they do want to see how top players do on boss songs.
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Post #855 · Posted at 2025-12-11 11:49:21pm 2.5 months ago

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I want it to be an 11 on Expert and a 14 on Challenge. The reactions would be so funny.

In an ironic manner, maybe. Obviously this isn't gonna be the case, being the theme for this season's BPL.

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honest question, why do ratings matter so much in the community? will a low number make the song unworthy? does a large number just make it more desirable to play?

I know JAG explained in a long winded manner. I'll put it another way. The MAX series of songs are all boss songs. They are meant to be the barrier between you being good, and you being an expert at the game. Nowadays a lot can pass MAX 300 Heavy with little issue, but either way it still is a skill ceiling breaker if you can pass, and pass it well. I can play even up to 16 with scores up to 950k+, I just know that the ceiling is my fat ass not being in enough shape when facing 17 and above. But the MAX series is a boss song none the less, and given this is the theme for the DDR section of BPL, and thelast songs have been 19s on Challenge, it is only expected for it to be a 19 at minimum, otherwise unless it was for the preservation of a reasonable chart, anything less than an 18 will be an insult.
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Post #856 · Posted at 2025-12-16 01:00:36am 2.3 months ago

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Quote: GhostSpirit
Everyone probably saw this today but it doesn't hurt to put this here too. DDR's song for BPL S5 was revealed today during the Benama stream:

https://i.imgur.com/93jsDqE.jpeg

Superior MAXXX / ???-DJ TOTTO-???

I'm thinking it'll be a new Fascination song, rather than a MAX song. I think that Fascination spun off into its own series, apart from the MAX series, and this is following the artist/title style of 100-200-400 / Fascination MAXX, from what I'm seeing there...

Post #857 · Posted at 2025-12-16 03:24:36pm 2.3 months ago

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New WORLD LEAGUE:

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Post #858 · Posted at 2025-12-18 04:04:31am 2.3 months ago

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Looks like ElectroCoin leaked that there will be a new DDR cabinet shown in 2026.
https://www.electrocoin.com/new-products-set-to-be-released-by-electrocoin-at-eag-london-2026/
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Post #859 · Posted at 2025-12-18 05:24:01pm 2.2 months ago

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I'm also inferring we'll finally be getting new Western licences, either in World or a potential sequel? [hope intensifies]
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Post #860 · Posted at 2025-12-18 05:30:21pm 2.2 months ago

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