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Post #8041 · Posted at 2011-09-08 12:26:51pm 13.8 years ago

Offline Kon
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The machine at Disneyworld is treated the same as the machines everywhere else. That machine is going to run into the same problems every other machine is plagued with because of the shortcuts used to manufacture the sensors. There are some minor things you can do to delay the machine going south but it will happen sooner or later.

Post #8042 · Posted at 2011-09-08 12:57:33pm 13.8 years ago

Offline yindesu
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Fun fact: if you go by my AAA's on Betson X2 (40) vs my AAA's on all other DDR machines (0), you'd probably conclude Round1's X2 is amazingly easy to score on Laughing Out Loud

yeah, how it works is you need to catch new sensors and pray to god you get a good week in before they go to hell... because it's almost not worth calling a tech to replace sensors unless you can show him that 5+/8 arrows are phantom triggering at that point.

Post #8043 · Posted at 2011-09-08 01:09:23pm 13.8 years ago

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The local Dave and Busters hasn't even had their machine for two months and it's already awful. Very upsetting. =(

Post #8044 · Posted at 2011-09-08 01:19:21pm 13.8 years ago

Offline yindesu
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There does not exist a Betson X2 anywhere in the world that has lasted 2 months in good condition.

As countless reports and people have already "proven", you get ~2 weeks before the whole pad needs to be serviced.

Post #8045 · Posted at 2011-09-09 02:05:55am 13.8 years ago

Offline Zowayix
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I'm talking about proven scores.

You do know that in the land of e-Amusement, anything the game says is a high score is basically a proven score?

Assuming there are videos of all good players/plays is silly. A lot of arcades in Asia especially are touchy about cameras for reasons I don't care to find out. (I still took them anyway.)

I was referring specifically to FCs. Given only a score number, you can't always tell if the score was an FC.

Post #8046 · Posted at 2011-09-09 06:12:45am 13.8 years ago

Offline AeronPeryton
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If you enter someone's Rival Code into the eAmuse website, doesn't it give you more detailed information about the scores than just a number?

Post #8047 · Posted at 2011-09-09 07:38:54pm 13.8 years ago

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Just posting a few pics from the cabinet at Trafford Centre.


http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1775/img0612or.th.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/839/img0614mt.th.jpg
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Pads seem in excellent quality, and I have yet to notice any drifting bug, but that might be because I haven't played in a long time and I suck!

From what people have said, it definitely looks like a dedicab.

Post #8048 · Posted at 2011-09-09 08:28:46pm 13.8 years ago

Offline Pumpkinetics
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Yep, that's an X2 US dedicab alright. The pads are the newer kind, you can tell by their thickness. Enjoy it while the pads are still good, and hope the arcade owners are serious about machine maintenance.

*Kind of really wanting Unlock code 3/max to come out soon.*

Post #8049 · Posted at 2011-09-09 09:23:14pm 13.8 years ago

Offline Mercury
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Trafford's cab isn't that bad actually, which makes a nice change from crap X2's.
Gotten a few 1g scores and haven't paid attention to the drift bug.
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Post #8050 · Posted at 2011-09-09 09:39:58pm 13.8 years ago

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You know it's not a EuroCab because you ACTUALLY got an A on something.
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Post #8051 · Posted at 2011-09-10 12:35:01am 13.8 years ago

Offline Skeeter
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I haven't had the chance to play on our X2 in awhile. I found it in early August and its still in decent shape. It lasted about 2 weeks in awesome condition and fell to meh condition after that. I should probably go play soon to see if it still works.

Post #8052 · Posted at 2011-09-15 09:27:13pm 13.8 years ago

Offline Surfer_Clock
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Folks have already reported the DisneyQuest X2 cab falling to crap, and it literally took about the 2 weeks stated in this thread. The last time I went there, the 2P pad was passable at best and the 1P pad was horrendous. DisneyQuest is high traffic, so I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. Majority of the traffic, however, are people who have no idea what they're doing, stomp the pads to oblivion, and so on. That's the only bad thing about a tourist attraction with a free play arcade.

Post #8053 · Posted at 2011-09-15 09:29:46pm 13.8 years ago

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The last time I went there it was the other way around.
The 1p was passable (if you played the 1p right arrow as Up Right ) and the 2p was worse than anything.

Post #8054 · Posted at 2011-09-15 09:36:58pm 13.8 years ago

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Quote: Surfer_Clock
Folks have already reported the DisneyQuest X2 cab falling to crap, and it literally took about the 2 weeks stated in this thread. The last time I went there, the 2P pad was passable at best and the 1P pad was horrendous. DisneyQuest is high traffic, so I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. Majority of the traffic, however, are people who have no idea what they're doing, stomp the pads to oblivion, and so on. That's the only bad thing about a tourist attraction with a free play arcade.

In my experience, it's the people who do know what they're doing that stomp the pads to oblivion.

Post #8055 · Posted at 2011-09-15 09:57:07pm 13.8 years ago

Offline Surfer_Clock
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In my experience, it's the people who do know what they're doing that stomp the pads to oblivion.

I won't deny that, but I will say I've seen drunk people with boots smash the sensors playing on Smile mode. It pained me to watch. So really, it's all of us. And Betson. But mostly us.

It would be nice if there was a way to improve on the Betson pads through modifications arcade techs / machine owners could make. I'm sure it would void the warranty, but if arcade locations want to stay profitable, they've got to keep their machines and pads functioning properly, especially if rhythm gaming is their primary focus.

Post #8056 · Posted at 2011-09-16 12:18:47am 13.8 years ago

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The point of the game is to stomp the pads into oblivion, so Betson or whoever makes DDR mats in general should know that they should be manufactured for sheer abuse. And then one can blame the owner of the machine for not maintaining an abused mat. And then the players can be blamed for stomping hard, considering the drunk people are probably only killing the mat as much as the hardcore AAAers.
Imo, even if making a DDR mat is harder than it sounds, the players should be blamed last, unless they play with like dirty, muddy, gross footwear or something that the machine wasn't intended for. No, it's not invincible, but two weeks of a lifespan for a ten grand machine? Maybe a month if people were more careful? They could at least include some years' worth of replacement sensors/ parts for that price. xP Or maybe there's already some sort of warranty that includes that, but they may as well just include some right from the start.

Post #8057 · Posted at 2011-09-16 12:44:50am 13.8 years ago

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The whole point of DDR is arrow stomping, any argument saying the fault is the players for faulty sensors is beyond belief.

Post #8058 · Posted at 2011-09-16 01:21:49am 13.8 years ago

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Sorry, but unless the pads are being jackhammered, you can't blame the user for using the equipment in what is definitely an intended and expected way. This isn't user error.
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Post #8059 · Posted at 2011-09-16 01:52:35am 13.8 years ago

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The point of the game is to stomp the pads into oblivion, so Betson or whoever makes DDR mats in general should know that they should be manufactured for sheer abuse. And then one can blame the owner of the machine for not maintaining an abused mat.

The point of the game is not to "stomp the pads into oblivion". It's to press them in time to the arrows on-screen.

Betson are 100% to blame for the problems, because they designed a cabinet for their target audience of small asian children and didn't take into account that there are people out there who seriously think that the object of the game is to "stomp the pads into oblivion". Yes, it's true that the pads suffer serious abuse, and they didn't expect players to do that during normal gameplay.

There were (and still are) Betson DDRX cabinets in completely playable condition, which have never had to have the pads serviced. They just happen to have been played solely by children, novice players, and responsible DDR players, who treated the equipment with the utmost of respect, knowing that "stomping the pads into oblivion" will mean that they no longer have a working DDR machine to play on.

Post #8060 · Posted at 2011-09-16 01:58:36am 13.8 years ago

Offline mageman17
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Some players go by the belief that the harder you stomp, the greater your timing/score.

I've seen and heard kids stomp barefoot louder than I play with my shoes on.
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