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Post #61 · Posted at 2013-03-12 09:33:05am 12.3 years ago

Offline HealingDMax300
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A lot of the MAX songs could have just been low-high 9s on the old scale if they didnt have fake difficulty (double bpm/unnecessary 8ths notes going to nothing for the sake of stream)
I don't think, for example, a 200 constant BPM for Fascination MAXX or a 160 BPM for MaxX Unlimited would fit because they are just super fast paced songs.

Post #62 · Posted at 2013-03-12 09:47:01am 12.3 years ago

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DDR has a weird obsession with doubling the bpm of songs for no reason other than to make them harder, they only seem really fast paced because we're so used to the idea of them going at a dynamic scroll rate.
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Post #63 · Posted at 2013-03-12 05:48:28pm 12.3 years ago

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DDR has a weird obsession with doubling the bpm of songs for no reason other than to make them harder, they only seem really fast paced because we're so used to the idea of them going at a dynamic scroll rate.

Yet at the same time, I'd find it awkward having a fast paced song being ridiculously easy... that being said, an understepped song, Rock This Town Heavy (from Ultramix 4). IT'S ALL JUST QUARTER NOTES!!!

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Post #64 · Posted at 2013-03-13 03:06:35am 12.3 years ago

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Cutie Chaser (DDR EXTREME Ver.) umm.. Explain that Heavy-s Song :<

Oh and Ska a go go Feels weird.. I cant tell if its understepped or overstepped.
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Post #65 · Posted at 2013-03-13 03:31:23am 12.3 years ago

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Oh and Ska a go go Feels weird.. I cant tell if its understepped or overstepped.

It's both! Understepped in some places, overstepped in others... that was somewhat typical of the CLUB versions. (I'm looking at you Macho Gang Heavy with all your jumps!!)
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Post #66 · Posted at 2013-03-13 03:37:18am 12.3 years ago

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Yet at the same time, I'd find it awkward having a fast paced song being ridiculously easy

Are there really any fast paced songs that are understepped in DDR though?
Serious question, I dont play fast songs too often so I dont know if there are any that are easy yet fast.
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Post #67 · Posted at 2013-03-13 03:39:56am 12.3 years ago

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Yet at the same time, I'd find it awkward having a fast paced song being ridiculously easy

Are there really any fast paced songs that are understepped in DDR though?
Serious question, I dont play fast songs too often so I dont know if there are any that are easy yet fast.

Okay, that statement was somewhat of an exaggeration, but I can make an example... Across the nightmare. It is hard as it is already, yes, but it could be even harder, just by hearing the guitars for example.
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Post #68 · Posted at 2013-03-13 03:52:29am 12.3 years ago

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Totally forgot about Across the Nightmare, that thing is just begging to be a boss song, but they went the safe route and just kept it mostly small spurts of 8th clusters.
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Post #69 · Posted at 2013-03-13 04:09:47am 12.3 years ago

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Are there really any fast paced songs that are understepped in DDR though?
Serious question, I dont play fast songs too often so I dont know if there are any that are easy yet fast.

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At least at the beginning...

Post #70 · Posted at 2013-03-13 04:21:06am 12.3 years ago

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Can someone explain to me why Xepher Challenge has been raised as understepped? Seems like a shitton of unnecessary business in that chart for me.
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Post #71 · Posted at 2013-03-13 04:27:16am 12.3 years ago

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because meth is a hell of a drug Xepher is waaaaaay overstepped and I dont really understand why they didnt just mash the Heavy and Challenge charts together.
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Post #72 · Posted at 2013-03-13 09:39:36am 12.3 years ago

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What do you guys think about the Expert chart for Memeshikute? Not sure whether it's overstepped or understepped.

Post #73 · Posted at 2013-03-14 01:15:11am 12.3 years ago

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Yet at the same time, I'd find it awkward having a fast paced song being ridiculously easy

Are there really any fast paced songs that are understepped in DDR though?

Max 300 Heavy Double.
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Post #74 · Posted at 2013-03-14 01:19:17am 12.3 years ago

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Cutie Chaser (DDR EXTREME Ver.) umm.. Explain that Heavy-s Song :<

Oh and Ska a go go Feels weird.. I cant tell if its understepped or overstepped.

As for Cutie Chaser, it's easy. It's meant to be a more relaxed, fun chart. It's full of easy to learn spins and turns.

Post #75 · Posted at 2013-03-14 01:20:41am 12.3 years ago

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What do you guys think about the Expert chart for Memeshikute? Not sure whether it's overstepped or understepped.

It follows the song well, doesnt seem over or understepped
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Post #76 · Posted at 2013-03-14 01:51:27am 12.3 years ago

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Yet at the same time, I'd find it awkward having a fast paced song being ridiculously easy

Are there really any fast paced songs that are understepped in DDR though?
Serious question, I dont play fast songs too often so I dont know if there are any that are easy yet fast.

Dragon Blade for sure.

The Least 100sec. could've been boss-level, too; or it can easily be edited to be.

You know another song that's SERIOUSLY understepped? THE SHINING POLARIS.
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Post #77 · Posted at 2013-03-14 02:07:11am 12.3 years ago

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In all honesty, I would have loved to see something like this be the challenge chart, it's easily a 10/15.
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Dragon Blade kinda just does the "Im in my happy place" thing for the expert chart and oversimplifies the steps.
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You know another song that's SERIOUSLY understepped? THE SHINING POLARIS.

Yes and No. It IS technically understepped, but it's also from the older DDR mixes which had more emphasis on fun charts rather than being dedicated to the music (to a point).
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Post #78 · Posted at 2013-03-14 04:13:33am 12.3 years ago

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If this was Frozen Ray's ONI chart.


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Post #79 · Posted at 2013-03-14 04:25:02am 12.3 years ago

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If this was Frozen Ray's ONI chart.


Then no one would play it. There's more to a chart than what rhythm it follows. That chart is littered with broken flow.

Post #80 · Posted at 2013-03-14 09:03:45am 12.3 years ago

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Surprised no one mentioned Kiss Me (KCP Remix) or I'M ALIVE (CUT'N'MOVE) yet.

Also, Dancing All Alone is understepped. Luckily, the chart from the 5th Mix Data Bank makes up for it.
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