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Post #61 · Posted at 2022-03-23 08:31:23pm 3.2 years ago

Offline n00b_saib0t
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"F***ing exhausted."
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It's still so frustrating that it's 2022 and Paseli/Premium play still hasn't been worked out for Round 1. So many games are neutered.
Why Round 1 specifically?
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Post #62 · Posted at 2022-03-23 09:07:01pm 3.2 years ago

Offline hollandaze
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It's still so frustrating that it's 2022 and Paseli/Premium play still hasn't been worked out for Round 1. So many games are neutered.
Why Round 1 specifically?
It was promised by Konami for Dancerush when it came to Round 1 but never happened
https://twitter.com/Round1USA/status/991743507420233728

It seems like it's the kind of thing that is held back by legal issues but it makes playing the Bemani games there super grindy
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Post #63 · Posted at 2022-03-23 09:23:21pm 3.2 years ago

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"F***ing exhausted."
Quote: hollandaze
Quote: n00b_saib0t
Quote: hollandaze
It's still so frustrating that it's 2022 and Paseli/Premium play still hasn't been worked out for Round 1. So many games are neutered.
Why Round 1 specifically?
It was promised by Konami for Dancerush when it came to Round 1 but never happened
https://twitter.com/Round1USA/status/991743507420233728

It seems like it's the kind of thing that is held back by legal issues but it makes playing the Bemani games there super grindy
Okay but again why Round 1 specifically? Does D&B and other locations have Paseli while Round 1 doesn’t?
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Post #64 · Posted at 2022-03-23 09:44:07pm 3.2 years ago

Offline lomonix
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"GET IT?!?!"
Quote: n00b_saib0t
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Quote: hollandaze
It's still so frustrating that it's 2022 and Paseli/Premium play still hasn't been worked out for Round 1. So many games are neutered.
Why Round 1 specifically?
It was promised by Konami for Dancerush when it came to Round 1 but never happened
https://twitter.com/Round1USA/status/991743507420233728

It seems like it's the kind of thing that is held back by legal issues but it makes playing the Bemani games there super grindy
Okay but again why Round 1 specifically? Does D&B and other locations have Paseli while Round 1 doesn’t?
The only Bemani game (that I know of) at D&B is DDR. Those are white cabs running the US build, so them having PASELI isn’t necessary.
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Post #65 · Posted at 2022-03-23 11:35:01pm 3.2 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
Basically, it just feels like "death of a thousand cuts" sometimes with these games. So many of the little pains in the ass add up to drag the overall experience down when at the core of it is a really fun game.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #66 · Posted at 2022-03-23 11:36:49pm 3.2 years ago

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"F***ing exhausted."
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Quote: n00b_saib0t
Quote: hollandaze
Quote: n00b_saib0t
Quote: hollandaze
It's still so frustrating that it's 2022 and Paseli/Premium play still hasn't been worked out for Round 1. So many games are neutered.
Why Round 1 specifically?
It was promised by Konami for Dancerush when it came to Round 1 but never happened
https://twitter.com/Round1USA/status/991743507420233728

It seems like it's the kind of thing that is held back by legal issues but it makes playing the Bemani games there super grindy
Okay but again why Round 1 specifically? Does D&B and other locations have Paseli while Round 1 doesn’t?
The only Bemani game (that I know of) at D&B is DDR. Those are white cabs running the US build, so them having PASELI isn’t necessary.
Man you're so close to getting the point.
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Post #67 · Posted at 2022-03-23 11:37:06pm 3.2 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
Having to wait a few months for the new mix also really sucks just because Konami feels like selling the game isn't enough, but... well, we'll get it over here about two years after you guys do, so you're not THAT unlucky.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #68 · Posted at 2022-03-23 11:53:34pm 3.2 years ago

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Okay but again why Round 1 specifically? Does D&B and other locations have Paseli while Round 1 doesn’t?

I think the inference is that Round1 could have more of a pull when it comes to enabling Paseli in the US since they're a Japanese based company that runs Japanese games in the US, but Konami probably does not think it's worth doing so since North America accounts for a very small portion of their profits

Post #69 · Posted at 2022-03-24 12:05:54am 3.2 years ago

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"F***ing exhausted."
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Okay but again why Round 1 specifically? Does D&B and other locations have Paseli while Round 1 doesn’t?

I think the inference is that Round1 could have more of a pull when it comes to enabling Paseli in the US since they're a Japanese based company that runs Japanese games in the US, but Konami probably does not think it's worth doing so since North America accounts for a very small portion of their profits
It would be nice if Round 1 could get something worked out to bring the full experience over here, I'm just tired of Konami's nonsense with only certain locations having certain things. Like it's better than it used to be, I remember when there were like 2 or 3 places in the US that had eAmuse at all, so seeing that all cabs have it now is great, but I'm definitely tired of the "anyone who can't play at Round 1 can get fucked" thing that has been going on.
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Post #70 · Posted at 2022-03-24 02:54:25am 3.2 years ago

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The reason for this is that KONAMI gets a cut of every game credit in Japan and other Asian countries where PASELI is used. Because of this, online version updates are sort of a "thank you" for continuing to use their service. In America, PASELI isn't used and therefore KONAMI gets 0 profits from game plays. In order to make up that cost, R1 and D&B had to purchase kits from KONAMI and essentially "license" the game to these arcades. Think about how upgrade kits used to work before all this online stuff. To get more content you had to make the investment and purchase an upgrade kit. That's how it'll likely be with A3 over here.

Paseli is Japan only. It cannot be enabled on any other Asian version of any BEMANI game. However, all versions under the revenue sharing system (this includes US versions of IIDX, BTW) track credits, from which Konami simply sends a bill at the appointed time. The TDX:U version of DDR (the one currently only found in Hawaii) uses the same revenue share system. This is why those games require a connection to the network to start up, which is not the case for the MDX:U versions of DDR.

Quote: hollandaze
Quote: n00b_saib0t
Quote: hollandaze
It's still so frustrating that it's 2022 and Paseli/Premium play still hasn't been worked out for Round 1. So many games are neutered.
Why Round 1 specifically?
It was promised by Konami for Dancerush when it came to Round 1 but never happened
https://twitter.com/Round1USA/status/991743507420233728

It seems like it's the kind of thing that is held back by legal issues but it makes playing the Bemani games there super grindy

Premium on DanceRush is not Paseli locked at all, and never has been. It's Standard that is, at least for Japan. Premium is disabled on US machines for COPPA reasons, as the tweet linked points out. Premium was originally only on the Japanese versions of DanceRush when it came out, but it eventually came to other regions (though there's still a couple countries that don't have it, besides US).

Post #71 · Posted at 2022-03-24 06:26:20pm 3.2 years ago

Offline gotmilk0112
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Yeah, I hope that since Premium is available with COIN/CREDIT on gold cabs now, that Konami will extend that to the other games (Dancerush, Gitadora, etc) and allow you to access their "premium" modes (Deluxe mode for Gitadora, Standard mode for Dancerush) via Credits too.

From what I've heard, the default setting for Credit Premium is having it cost 2 credits, and the tech can just set it down to 1 credit, which is what happened with the local gold cab that I play on. It'd be fuckin' awesome if we could do this on the other Bemani games too.

Post #72 · Posted at 2022-04-01 03:56:47pm 3.2 years ago

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If this game doesn't come to the UK and beyond I'll bury my head.

Post #73 · Posted at 2022-04-01 03:59:19pm 3.2 years ago

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If this game doesn't come to the UK and beyond I'll bury my head.

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deez nuts

Post #74 · Posted at 2022-04-01 10:40:47pm 3.2 years ago

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If this game doesn't come to the UK and beyond I'll bury my head.

What is "beyond?" Mars? Heaven? Sexy Planet?

Post #75 · Posted at 2022-04-02 12:28:42pm 3.2 years ago

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"five minute white boy challenge"
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If this game doesn't come to the UK and beyond I'll bury my head.

See you in 2024. We got A20 Plus literally a few weeks before A3 dropped everywhere else and we have to read Americans think they have it rough.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #76 · Posted at 2022-04-02 02:02:31pm 3.2 years ago

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if this game doesn't come to the UK i'll bury quick man's head

Post #77 · Posted at 2022-04-02 02:07:38pm 3.2 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
I'll send it to you in the post. 4-6 week delivery.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #78 · Posted at 2022-04-03 01:46:25am 3.2 years ago

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if this game doesn't come to the UK i'll bury quick man's head

please

Post #79 · Posted at 2022-04-03 08:49:43pm 3.2 years ago

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If this game doesn't come to the UK and beyond I'll bury my head.
the uk isnt real

Post #80 · Posted at 2022-04-04 01:08:51pm 3.2 years ago

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About the ridiculously large combo/judgment fonts, it seems a recent update made it more tolerable by using a compressed version of the same font. Though I still wish they would implement an option to shrink the font size by a certain amount.

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