[AC] StepManiaX produced by Kyle Ward

never said the song was trash but it is sus

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It's very minstrel, he's literally in brownface for the Dr. Bombay videos. I'm assuming this is why SMX added the newer Dr. Bombay song and not Rice and Curry.

Carlito is more racist in a stupid way than "holy fuck how did this get greenlit" racist, but surely there are better Indie Latin songs to license? Does there need to be 3 songs by a Swedish man cosplaying as a Mexican?

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cut them some slack, that's all they can get & boomers like that stuff apparently

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It's really just a bit of 2000s nostalgia, I dunno what to tell people

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BoOmErS lIkE tHaT sTuFf ApPaReNtLy

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You guys are saying this as if we haven’t had Naoki over the past 3 updates

honestly when it comes to Forced's taste the fact that he has to fall on the ol' "only boomers like this" techinque probably means the devs are doing everything right

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> You guys are saying this as if we haven’t had Naoki over the past 3 updates
naoki is not comparable to dr bombay

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Wait wait wait, why are we looking past casual racism because it's some "2000s nostalgia".

This guy has made a career out of portraying Indian stereotypes in blackface, when people got bored of that he stuck on a kilt and imitated Scotsmen which is less of a problem but still, c'mon, when that failed he adopted this racist Mexican persona.

As eataninja said, it's more "stupid racist" than "this is utterly offensive" racist, but does it belong in a commercial rhythm game in 2024? If he had just the one song in here you could roll your eyes and be like "fine, it's dumb, whatever", but 3?? Can we just stop giving this guy money LOL use that on getting new artists in the game or something, ANYTHING.

On top of that all his songs are the same one-note garbage anyway.

~excusing racism because it annoys the zoomers~ is not the own that you think it is but given your past that is not surprising ;D

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There are a lot of "that's racist/problematic" issues that get glossed over largely because the people it would be racist against either aren't bothered or love the shout out, so to speak. Like I'm Jewish and if someone tried telling me Weird Al is a problem because of Pretty Fly For A Rabbi I'm telling them they're an idiot, and if you think his Jewish caricature for that isn't the same thing as what Dr. Bombay is doing you're jumping through mental hoops. A bunch of white people got all up in a moral panic over Mario in a poncho and hat in Odyssey, the people they got offended for saw it as the opposite of a problem. The mud mask episode of Golden Girls got taken off of Hulu because of "blackface". Mr. Game & Watch got some animations changed in Smash that had an "offensive" Native American stereotype. None of this was because the people those things are about were bothered.

If people have nostalgia for a bad song just let them.

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omg

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The song is very uncomfortable and could set a very bad precedent, especially considering its target audience. Are we really willing to defend something blatantly racist just to epically own forced?

What? Can you tell me which part of this song is very uncofortable?


I honestly think that this song is... fun and uplifting? I have simmed it in past (and other Carlito songs) and I think that some people here are trying to stir drama for the case of stirring drama.

I wish I didn't have to explain this... It is based on a widespread and harmful stereotype that reduces an entire population of individuals to "sombrero hat" and "salsa," made by a person who himself is not affected by the stereotype, and leads to said individuals being treated as less than human by those who believe it. The presence of this song in the game will make those affected by this stereotype uncomfortable and not safe playing it, and a move away from content that functions by putting other people down will make the game better and more popular for everyone. It wasn't any better back when songs like this were widespread; people were just less aware of its harms back then.

It doesn't matter how much you like it if it is hurting other people.

i think posts like these intentionally just try not to understand the point because it's also literally just in the thread. i think the pearl clutchers in this conversation should also try to better understand why this is having the reaction it is: because why is literally everyone and their mother trying to die on this hill? it almost reads like ragebait from most of the "hurr this isn't racist" crowd. be so serious

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can we not use this argument 🤭 you could literally use this to excuse any behavior from any time period ever. imagine defending blackface because "it's a bit of 1900s nostalgia-" oh wait thats already what youre doing by defending this guy's Dr. Bombay related works.

Black/brownface has a much worse historical connotation in the US than it does elsewhere, to give context as to why some people think this is questionable.

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I think from an American lens (and SMX is an American game), we need to be cautious of how we portray minoritized groups. Have minoritized groups said they aren't offended? If not, don't assume they aren't. Until then, I think it's fair to bring it up as a potential cause for concern, and we shouldn't have to wait for people in the derogated group to comment on it to know it isn't offensive. I don't see why this is such an issue.

I was right, it really is just the things people said about Mario Odyssey all over again.

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