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Post #761 · Publicado en 2023-11-03 09:25:03pm Hace 2 años

Offline DCMM99
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Been estimating what the possible BPMs are on 鳳 so far
I got 60 -> 920 -> 460.
Didn't do the speedup after the drill.

Post #762 · Publicado en 2023-11-03 10:36:41pm Hace 2 años

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Does PERFECT judgment also decrease the LIFE GAUGE? I watched brosoni's video at x0.25 speed, and I saw a small decrease in LIFE GAUGE when he gets PERFECT, but I don't know if I'm right.

Post #763 · Publicado en 2023-11-03 10:49:04pm Hace 2 años

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Been estimating what the possible BPMs are on 鳳 so far
I got 60 -> 920 -> 460.
Didn't do the speedup after the drill.

I counted the frames in O4MA.'s latest video and got 57 -> 912 -> 456, but somewhere between 910-915 is also possible.

But of course, this is only just the beginning of the song. Who knows if the range is even bigger than this, but so far, it doesn't look like we have another OTP situation where every BPM change isn't a factor of 2.

Quote: PlasmaVenom
Does PERFECT judgment also decrease the LIFE GAUGE? I watched brosoni's video at x0.25 speed, and I saw a small decrease in LIFE GAUGE when he gets PERFECT, but I don't know if I'm right.

Credit to darkanine for figuring this out:

You basically start with 100 HP and you lose HP based on the following judgements:
Perfect
Great
Good
Miss/N.G.
-1 HP
-2 HP
-10 HP
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Post #764 · Publicado en 2023-11-04 01:34:39am Hace 2 años

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"five minute white boy challenge"
The elephant in the room is that this essentially confirms that even if you PFC the song you can still fail by not having good enough MA. And considering this song probably lands in the 900 to 1000 step range... There's no question anymore, as if there was in the first place - this is the absolute hardest challenge in DDR's history and is practically impossible without Konami eventually either lowering the conditions or slowly allowing access to the easier charts like they did back in 2015 with Over the Period.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #765 · Publicado en 2023-11-04 04:56:01pm Hace 2 años

Offline DCMM99
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So I did some math to figure out the EX for 鳳
940 points difference between 2 marvelous notes.
Divided 1 million by 940.
got 1,063.83 and rounded it down.
Multiplied it by 3.

Got 3,189 total EX .

If you're crazy enough and want to PFC it during the event. The minimum EX for a 99p PFC is 3,090.

Post #766 · Publicado en 2023-11-04 06:31:51pm Hace 2 años

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"It's pronounced See-OH-Zee"
FEFEMZ is also making good progress and made it about halfway through. Skip to 3:06:58.


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Post #767 · Publicado en 2023-11-04 10:05:30pm Hace 2 años

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This chart could be re-rated 20 in the future...

Post #768 · Publicado en 2023-11-04 10:30:51pm Hace 2 años

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"X scale 20"
It doesn't seem harder than Endymion and Breaking the Future, but there may be harder stuff in the second half.

Post #769 · Publicado en 2023-11-05 08:14:04pm Hace 1.9 años

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I've heard some slightly conflicting information about the event - can someone confirm the below?
• Can you manually select Flare Gauge even when the stage isn't Galaxy Stage? Does it depend on unlocks/event progress, and/or selecting Galaxy Play vs. Premium Play?
• How much of the event requires Galaxy Play? How far could you get without selecting Galaxy Play?
• Galaxy Play is supposed to be 3x the cost of Premium Play right? So if Premium Play costs ¥120 then Galaxy Play costs ¥360? (Are these numbers accurate?)

Post #770 · Publicado en 2023-11-05 09:14:26pm Hace 1.9 años

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Post #771 · Publicado en 2023-11-05 10:41:48pm Hace 1.9 años

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• Can you manually select Flare Gauge even when the stage isn't Galaxy Stage? Does it depend on unlocks/event progress, and/or selecting Galaxy Play vs. Premium Play?
As far as I know, Flare Gauge is exclusive to Galaxy Stage; think about it as a challenge gauge from DDRMAX to Supernova, except that judgments GREAT and below (or in the case of Flare Gauge EX, PERFECT and below) can decrease the gauge with no recovery.

Whether or not you select Galaxy Play or Premium Play doesn't matter as Flare Gauge only applies when you're in Galaxy Stage.

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• How much of the event requires Galaxy Play? How far could you get without selecting Galaxy Play?
If you never use Galaxy Play, then it just means you have to play 3 times as many games in order to fill up the RP gauge once. You can still make progress without it, just that it'll take longer.

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• Galaxy Play is supposed to be 3x the cost of Premium Play right? So if Premium Play costs ¥120 then Galaxy Play costs ¥360? (Are these numbers accurate?)
Correct. If you're playing outside of Japan, then it's 3x the credits (which makes sense since going through a round on Galaxy Play completely fills up one of the RP gauges instead of 1/3rd the amount on Premium Play).

Post #772 · Publicado en 2023-11-05 10:43:28pm Hace 1.9 años

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Thank you!

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2) Chris or someone else with data has definitely been playing this on private cabs for months, and someone in the US clears it in a week. The Japanese community then all fly to North America and smash every fucking DDR cab with baseball bats.
This is the second time I've heard something about "Chris playing 鳳 beforehand" - where is this coming from?

Post #773 · Publicado en 2023-11-06 02:24:04am Hace 1.9 años

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2) Chris or someone else with data has definitely been playing this on private cabs for months, and someone in the US clears it in a week. The Japanese community then all fly to North America and smash every fucking DDR cab with baseball bats.
This is the second time I've heard something about "Chris playing 鳳 beforehand" - where is this coming from?

There was a recent Twitter post calling Chris out for playing on data that contains certain charts months before they came out

Post #774 · Publicado en 2023-11-06 02:30:21am Hace 1.9 años

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Post #775 · Publicado en 2023-11-06 02:41:40am Hace 1.9 años

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The elephant in the room is that this essentially confirms that even if you PFC the song you can still fail by not having good enough MA. And considering this song probably lands in the 900 to 1000 step range... There's no question anymore, as if there was in the first place - this is the absolute hardest challenge in DDR's history and is practically impossible without Konami eventually either lowering the conditions or slowly allowing access to the easier charts like they did back in 2015 with Over the Period.

the chart from what we've seen so far doesn't seem to be excessively more impossible than endymion, but the flare gauge is an insane barrier, and that's what's really hard about clearing this song
kind of a shame konami went back to deliberately making a song challenge near impossible to clear for that sweet grinding-for-8-months money, but ig that's how OMES/EES has always been

Post #776 · Publicado en 2023-11-06 02:47:05am Hace 1.9 años

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Quote: Quickman
There's no question anymore, as if there was in the first place - this is the absolute hardest challenge in DDR's history and is practically impossible without Konami eventually either lowering the conditions or slowly allowing access to the easier charts like they did back in 2015 with Over the Period.

If there's one thing this game has shown time and time again, things that seem practically impossible at first eventually get conquered. Max 300 PFC, Dead End Groove Radar PFC, Ace 4 Aces Encore extra, etc. etc.

Give it another week and people will be at the very least on the last 1/4 of the song.

Post #777 · Publicado en 2023-11-06 02:51:17am Hace 1.9 años

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Post #778 · Publicado en 2023-11-06 03:08:21am Hace 1.9 años

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kind of a shame konami went back to deliberately making a song challenge near impossible to clear for that sweet grinding-for-8-months money, but ig that's how OMES/EES has always been
Max-Extreme the OMES was more of a reward for getting through the big boss. Candy, Kakumei that’s easier than the Heavy chart, and an alternate chart for Dance Dance Revolution. They had conditions like no-refill lifebar or dark but they weren’t like this.
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Post #779 · Publicado en 2023-11-06 03:16:23am Hace 1.9 años

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"five minute white boy challenge"
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Quote: Quickman
There's no question anymore, as if there was in the first place - this is the absolute hardest challenge in DDR's history and is practically impossible without Konami eventually either lowering the conditions or slowly allowing access to the easier charts like they did back in 2015 with Over the Period.

If there's one thing this game has shown time and time again, things that seem practically impossible at first eventually get conquered. Max 300 PFC, Dead End Groove Radar PFC, Ace 4 Aces Encore extra, etc. etc.

Give it another week and people will be at the very least on the last 1/4 of the song.

We've had multiple cases before of these types of bosses or event finales never being cleared under the original conditions, Konami eventually having to throw their hands up and lower the difficulty for it to happen months later.
Quote: Quick Man
Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #780 · Publicado en 2023-11-06 03:16:52am Hace 1.9 años

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Quote: SomethingRandom
kind of a shame konami went back to deliberately making a song challenge near impossible to clear for that sweet grinding-for-8-months money, but ig that's how OMES/EES has always been
Max-Extreme the OMES was more of a reward for getting through the big boss. Candy, Kakumei that’s easier than the Heavy chart, and an alternate chart for Dance Dance Revolution. They had conditions like no-refill lifebar or dark but they weren’t like this.

true, i meant like since SN era lol
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