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Post #741 · Posted at 2009-12-02 02:46:06am 15.7 years ago

Offline Daiz
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"TAKING IT TO THE PIE"
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Quote: Daiz
The only time i find double stepping annoying is during pad cross overs on doubles because then you're not just trying to hit the arrows, you're trying to do so without twisting an ankle.

then that means you're doing it wrong. :v

I've never had that problem in all of the doubles charts I've played.

See! silent can do steps like this just fine. That doesn't mean Im a bad doubles player or that the charts I play are bad.

Post #742 · Posted at 2009-12-02 02:58:18am 15.7 years ago

Offline rateiosu
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"Let's get this movin'"
I'm loving more and more DDRX2.
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"smooooch" is a really cute song.
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"FIRE FIRE" will be a "most played" here.
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=)
Rena:
By the way, where's my present?

Post #743 · Posted at 2009-12-02 03:18:35am 15.7 years ago

Offline Tyma
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The only time i find double stepping annoying is during pad cross overs on doubles because then you're not just trying to hit the arrows, you're trying to do so without twisting an ankle.

I have never, in 10 years of doubles songs, seen a single one that does this.

Post #744 · Posted at 2009-12-02 03:26:00am 15.7 years ago

Offline Daiz
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I'm not saying the chart forces you to double step across the pad, I'm saying when I double step across the pad. Songs such as HVAM, Daikenkai, Leading Cyber, Brilliant RED and a few parts in other songs I have double stepped while crossing the pads. Other songs such as Colors Oni, Cartoon Heroes, etc. I have double stepped until I learned how to cross the pad on those parts.

Post #745 · Posted at 2009-12-02 04:17:56am 15.7 years ago

Offline PanStyle
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Quote: Daiz
I think it's stupid to claim that sightreaders are better players because they make above 90% on first attempt than someone who can AAA a more complicated song after several tries.
I never wanted to say that, sorry if my explaination are bad.
(+ i'm more someone who AAA after many many tries than someone who play the song once...).

I should explain more this :
Quote: PanStyle
The point is (for me), if you are good, you have to got a good score on sightread (90% of the time).
If not, the chart is bad or you are bad.

Imagine, that you have 98% average on 9' and AA all of them (9feet from SN1 and SN2).
We can imagine that if you paly a new 9', you could get a AA on your first try.
You play a new 9' (old scale) from X/X2 got some wtf moves to do, and end with 91%.
So you could get suspicious with this stepchart ^^'

I don't like double-step, but for some easy songs, it's ok. (you named "Celebrate Night" for exemple, i know this one has a lot of double steps but i really like it because the song is easy and fun).
I enjoy so much a chart when the is no (or almost 0) double stepping (i even enjoyed PSMO recently. I'm really bad at it and i have a poor stamina. But i will play again until AA).

But i guess everyone has his opinion and that's good. I'm sorry that this turn into a little off topic.


OnTopic : Do someone will take video of the 3 new songs ? DrD can't so ^^' (btw everyone can see his video now no?)
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Post #746 · Posted at 2009-12-02 04:28:57am 15.7 years ago

Offline cali_surfer_788
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Didnt Healing Vision Angelic Mix introduce the first song with tons of double stepping? And technically, you never HAVE to double step, you can always change feet.

Post #747 · Posted at 2009-12-02 04:30:11am 15.7 years ago

Offline Shubox
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Oh god, they've kept the music video for Dazzlin Darlin' O_O

Post #748 · Posted at 2009-12-02 04:33:49am 15.7 years ago

Offline PanStyle
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Didnt Healing Vision Angelic Mix introduce the first song with tons of double stepping? And technically, you never HAVE to double step, you can always change feet.
196bpm 8th arrows spins. NOT FOR ME i don't want to die or break my legs xD
I guess only few people did that (i saw a video on youTube once) but he finish with a bad score >.>
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Post #749 · Posted at 2009-12-02 04:40:35am 15.7 years ago

Offline NIQ9
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double-stepping itself isn't that bad, but when you guess wrong, it leads you into an awkward pattern. A spin here or there is cool, but these patterns just don't look fun. I've lost many AAAs and quad stars because of ambiguous steps.
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Post #750 · Posted at 2009-12-02 04:44:20am 15.7 years ago

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Didnt Healing Vision Angelic Mix introduce the first song with tons of double stepping? And technically, you never HAVE to double step, you can always change feet.

Do Me? Sky High? Afronova?

The original Trip Machine?

At some point, someone made up the concept, to explain specific step patterns that have existed since the very first game. At a later point, people started making a big deal out of it..

Post #751 · Posted at 2009-12-02 04:50:04am 15.7 years ago

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OnTopic : Do someone will take video of the 3 new songs ? DrD can't so ^^' (btw everyone can see his video now no?)

rofl, chances are slim to none. You'll have to wait for the US location test (if there is one).

Post #752 · Posted at 2009-12-02 05:02:53am 15.7 years ago

Offline Arctic Wolves
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Quote: Tyma
Afronova?

I don't recall TRIP MACHINE, DO ME or SKY HIGH too well, but AFRONOVA has barely any double stepping at all. It was the first song to introduce what is known sometimes as the AFRONOVA Walk where you're basically doing candle steps sideways.

My thoughts: there is a time and place for double stepping. If we limit ourselves to never putting in patterns that would enforce it (or at least require spins), then we are severely limiting our step writing tools. There is no such thing as a 'bad pattern' that should never be used; it depends on the song, and the context of the previous and following steps. The double stepping at the end of polyrhythm (from X) is perfect; follows the song, I wouldn't have it any other way. Can also be spun but doing that many spins would make me dizzy so I would only double step it. Tongue

Second Heaven feels experimental to me, as if they wanted to gauge player reaction to what is and isn't considered fun to most of the community. I think they have their answer. While some people seem offended at smooooch, the prevailing opinion seems to be positive, and I agree, it looks fun to play.
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Post #753 · Posted at 2009-12-02 05:28:18am 15.7 years ago

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Quote: Shubox
Oh god, they've kept the music video for Dazzlin' Darlin O_O

Hell yeah, that vid is bangin'!

See, I said bangin', because of the title. Tongue No one got that, did they? Oops
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Post #754 · Posted at 2009-12-02 11:02:35am 15.7 years ago

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Quote: MrTM2
Quote: Shubox
Oh god, they've kept the music video for Dazzlin' Darlin O_O

Hell yeah, that vid is bangin'!

See, I said bangin', because of the title. Tongue No one got that, did they? Oops
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Post #755 · Posted at 2009-12-02 01:14:19pm 15.7 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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You should fail or barely pass your first time playing a song, even if you're highly skilled.
Fuck that. I have 10K+ simfiles, and expecting someone to memorize the idiosyncracies of a significant fraction of them to the level you're talking about is just unreasonable.

Also, for you people saying, "Making a step pattern gimmick that goes with the song is cool!":
Go play my chart for "The 7 Jump" a few times (in sig), then tell me if you want to play it again. I'm betting not even one of you will say yes, even though it's a good example of making a chart to fit the lyrics. Stepping to match something in the lyrics is cool about twice, then it starts to get old. Especially when you come back to the song after having not played it for several months, and realize that you don't remember how to do it properly anymore.
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Post #756 · Posted at 2009-12-02 01:33:16pm 15.7 years ago

Offline Daggett
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Anyone noticing a pattern with these crossovers?

HHH (Ryu* alias) - Dazzlin' Darlin'
Ryu* - Second Heaven

StripE (kors k alias) - Fire Fire
kors k - smooooch

Two songs by the same artist, with one of them going by the artist's alias. If the trend continues...

Risk Junk (dj TAKA alias) - 不沈艦CANDY
dj TAKA -???

We're very likely going to get a new Taka crossover song. (maybe V2 or Snow Storm? Desert Journey??)

Post #757 · Posted at 2009-12-02 01:42:15pm 15.7 years ago

Offline Pie-kun
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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
And kors k has a DDR original too...

Ryu* and new TAKA original too?~

Post #758 · Posted at 2009-12-02 01:51:21pm 15.7 years ago

Offline zodiak_911
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That would be awesome if they gave every IIDX regular artist a crossover and an original plus an alias crossover!

Post #759 · Posted at 2009-12-02 01:57:49pm 15.7 years ago

Offline MrTM2
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We have yet to have a "REAL" L.E.D. song yet. Evil Puppy
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Post #760 · Posted at 2009-12-02 02:20:55pm 15.7 years ago

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"Secret Agent"
Speaking of licence songs for X2, better Konami revived some home console licence songs. (Like on SN2 before)

Doki Doki (Panik Mix) = perfect choice. Roll Eyes
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