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Post #7421 · Posted at 2009-08-26 03:58:34am 15.8 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
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It definitely brought back memories of Kagami and Dawn from ITG.Green Grin
Hey, at least use examples where the hands were awkward or difficult if you're going to bash hands. Dawn and Kagami were easiest in the hand sections.
I diseagree, Dawn has freakin hands. Left + right are painfull to do.
Plus do once up and left and after right and down is painfull too.

It's my opinion, but i really dislike Dawn's hands.
I don't get how anybody can claim hands that easy are painful. I can't even touch my ankles without bending my knees, yet I have no trouble hitting hands. It's not like hands require any more limberness or flexibility than normal DDR. I haven seen anyone even really make painfully positioned hands on singles. It has to be something like BYM D-Challenge or Disconnect Disco D-Challenge to even start to be painful or wearing.

PS: All you "freestyle" players that hate hands: Go find a video of someone freestyling where they don't do any hand plants or kneedrops, and I'll show you a freestyle that isn't very impressive. (Unless it's one of those ones where they do lots of tricks with the bar)
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Post #7422 · Posted at 2009-08-26 04:18:43am 15.8 years ago

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Post #7423 · Posted at 2009-08-26 04:20:12am 15.8 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun
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It definitely brought back memories of Kagami and Dawn from ITG.Green Grin
Hey, at least use examples where the hands were awkward or difficult if you're going to bash hands. Dawn and Kagami were easiest in the hand sections.
I diseagree, Dawn has freakin hands. Left + right are painfull to do.
Plus do once up and left and after right and down is painfull too.

It's my opinion, but i really dislike Dawn's hands.
I don't get how anybody can claim hands that easy are painful. I can't even touch my ankles without bending my knees, yet I have no trouble hitting hands. It's not like hands require any more limberness or flexibility than normal DDR. I haven seen anyone even really make painfully positioned hands on singles. It has to be something like BYM D-Challenge or Disconnect Disco D-Challenge to even start to be painful or wearing.

PS: All you "freestyle" players that hate hands: Go find a video of someone freestyling where they don't do any hand plants or kneedrops, and I'll show you a freestyle that isn't very impressive. (Unless it's one of those ones where they do lots of tricks with the bar)
I tried BYM-D Challenge and it's maybe one of my favorite stepchart ever. The hands are so fun to do, i truly like it. But yeah, Disconected Disco seems a lot lot harder (i didn't try it cause my average skill at double is 9).

I think everyone has diferent weakness. If i could play more ITG i will feel more comfortable with hands.
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Post #7424 · Posted at 2009-08-26 04:21:31am 15.8 years ago

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i cant do hands period. I am too tall and it feels so awkward to bend down and hit them. And, if i do hit them, it usually hurts my hands cause i do it too hard. Personally I dont like hands in most charts although I'll admit that they can be fun in some ITG charts. I have yet to see and good hand charts in DDR X edits.
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Post #7425 · Posted at 2009-08-26 04:53:09am 15.8 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
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Feedback Request

Can people e-mail to al2k4@zenius-i-vanisher.com constructive critcism of DDR X, as I should be speaking to someone official in the coming days or next week, and would be a great chance to talk about the game.

Thanks guys!
CS or AC? I can only comment on the AC from few videos I've watched, which isn't very valid.
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Post #7426 · Posted at 2009-08-26 04:58:09am 15.8 years ago

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Post #7427 · Posted at 2009-08-26 05:25:34am 15.8 years ago

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Post #7428 · Posted at 2009-08-26 05:44:10am 15.8 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun
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Feedback Request

Can people e-mail to al2k4@zenius-i-vanisher.com constructive critcism of DDR X, as I should be speaking to someone official in the coming days or next week, and would be a great chance to talk about the game.

Thanks guys!
CS or AC? I can only comment on the AC from few videos I've watched, which isn't very valid.
Same. I would like to help but... Sad
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Post #7429 · Posted at 2009-08-26 07:17:12am 15.8 years ago

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Post #7430 · Posted at 2009-08-26 07:21:43am 15.8 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Can I comment on the announcer choice? Oh wait, I already have. Really, that and the step placement are my only complaints from playing the CS version that also seem to apply to the AC version.
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Post #7431 · Posted at 2009-08-26 12:59:01pm 15.8 years ago

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unlocking system is my main complaint due to the fact how long it takes along with now enough exciting things to do/look forward to. At least SN2 had zukin wars and bonus extra stages.
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Post #7432 · Posted at 2009-08-26 04:52:55pm 15.8 years ago

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Feedback Request

Can people e-mail to al2k4@zenius-i-vanisher.com constructive critcism of DDR X, as I should be speaking to someone official in the coming days or next week, and would be a great chance to talk about the game.

Thanks guys!

tbh i'd put that DDR X crap aside and start manufacturing ITG cabs and upgrades again. I much prefer ITG to DDR for too many reasons to list..
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Post #7433 · Posted at 2009-08-26 10:03:18pm 15.8 years ago

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And I prefer DDR to ITG for many reasons also. You're not going to get ITG back. Even if Konami brought back the franchise, they would not employ Roxor to do it.

My only complain, as I sent to al, is the pad quality. Everything else can be improved on with each new release, but a cab with a bad pad remains to be a bad cab, no matter how many new releases of DDR come out.

Post #7434 · Posted at 2009-08-26 11:14:26pm 15.8 years ago

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tbh i'd put that DDR X crap aside and start manufacturing ITG cabs and upgrades again. I much prefer ITG to DDR for too many reasons to list..
Konami is not going to suddenly become better at making dance games if they call the next DDR game "In The Groove 3".
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Post #7435 · Posted at 2009-08-26 11:35:15pm 15.8 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
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And I prefer DDR to ITG for many reasons also. You're not going to get ITG back. Even if Konami brought back the franchise, they would not employ Roxor to do it.

My only complain, as I sent to al, is the pad quality. Everything else can be improved on with each new release, but a cab with a bad pad remains to be a bad cab, no matter how many new releases of DDR come out.
The announcer is also something that will hang around for a long time, or so it seems to me. So far, we've seen no indication that they're going to throw away the X announcer, so I'd say it's something they need to be reminded to toss out.
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Post #7436 · Posted at 2009-08-26 11:37:46pm 15.8 years ago

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The thing is, you assume Konami is bad at making dance games. Hello TEN YEARS LATER. Seriously, I won't deny that Roxor did quite a few things right with ITG, but Konami's not running the series into the ground (even though this latest release may change my mind). Supernova 2 was a pretty good success. Hell, even Supernova was a success. A dance game doesn't have to have all the songs you want, all the features you want or be like any other dancing game to be good. And it seems no matter how "shitty" Konami makes DDR, people seem to always come back to it.

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And I prefer DDR to ITG for many reasons also. You're not going to get ITG back. Even if Konami brought back the franchise, they would not employ Roxor to do it.

My only complain, as I sent to al, is the pad quality. Everything else can be improved on with each new release, but a cab with a bad pad remains to be a bad cab, no matter how many new releases of DDR come out.
The announcer is also something that will hang around for a long time, or so it seems to me. So far, we've seen no indication that they're going to throw away the X announcer, so I'd say it's something they need to be reminded to toss out.

Not necessarily. They can reduce the frequency the announcer speaks and what he says.

Post #7437 · Posted at 2009-08-27 12:08:18am 15.8 years ago

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Post #7438 · Posted at 2009-08-27 10:28:33am 15.8 years ago

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I was never overly keen on ITG anyway. I know Roxor had good intentions with it but I never felt that it seemed as good as DDR for me. There weren't enough licences for starters but even the more unique songs never felt quite as good as most of the Konami Originals and crossovers. Sorry.

That's not to say that Konami couldn't learn a thing or two from Roxor and ITG.
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Post #7439 · Posted at 2009-08-27 12:26:06pm 15.8 years ago

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tbh i'd put that DDR X crap aside and start manufacturing ITG cabs and upgrades again. I much prefer ITG to DDR for too many reasons to list..
Konami is not going to suddenly become better at making dance games if they call the next DDR game "In The Groove 3".

I think what he means is the ITG machine was better (Which was made by Andamiro) and he liked the ability to have custom songs. Two things Konami won't be doing ever, let alone soon enough.

Post #7440 · Posted at 2009-08-27 12:45:51pm 15.8 years ago

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tbh i'd put that DDR X crap aside and start manufacturing ITG cabs and upgrades again. I much prefer ITG to DDR for too many reasons to list..
Konami is not going to suddenly become better at making dance games if they call the next DDR game "In The Groove 3".

I think what he means is the ITG machine was better (Which was made by Andamiro) and he liked the ability to have custom songs. Two things Konami won't be doing ever, let alone soon enough.
Or uh, maybe he just likes ITG.
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