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Post #7001 · Posted at 2009-07-31 01:59:14am 16 years ago

Offline al2k4
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He stopped to tell me that the machine is basicaly unplayable, and not worth driving up to Manchester to play :{

This is pretty much the truth.

The pads are terribly unresponsive, and there is blatent audio/visual lag.

I remember back at ATEI, the test machine was so responsive, you could activate a sensor with your little finger and not much pressure.
The new cabs are completely the opposite.

To activate the pads, you need to apply a decent amount of pressure. I personally step quite light, but my PA was way off.
There weren't many "pad misses" since the pads were registering, but when each pad needs an indeterminable amount of pressure to activate, it become nigh on impossible to PA.
So, the pads register at different speeds since you need to stamp for them to work. Some are more responsive than others.

Couple that in with an amount of audio/visual lag (you have to step late), and you've got yourself a really poorly constructed machine. In the time i played there, i didn't once score a AA. I was getting A's on songs that I've PFC'd on the machine at the Troc.

The pads themselves feel ok to play and the overall aesthetics of the machine really isn't that much of a sore point. One issue is because the pads are hard fixed to the cabinet, my brother watching me told me afterwards that i shifted the whole machine at least an inch or two from one song.

I can't say I'm surprised at this at all. Raw Thrills are handling it after all. Roll Eyes

Post #7002 · Posted at 2009-07-31 02:11:06am 16 years ago

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If I had the money, I'd happily buy DDRX, just to smash the fuck out of it with a hammer. It might be better that way...
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Post #7003 · Posted at 2009-07-31 02:27:37am 16 years ago

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Oni that's no way to treat a PlayStation CD.
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Post #7004 · Posted at 2009-07-31 02:29:15am 16 years ago

Offline TimeSpaceMage
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"Sarah/Autumn"
Didn't they used to do that with PS3's back when people were camping out for them? *smirk*
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Post #7005 · Posted at 2009-07-31 02:33:35am 16 years ago

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Yep, and it was hilarious as people watched in horror. Laughing Out Loud

Post #7006 · Posted at 2009-07-31 02:41:46am 16 years ago

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To put a positive spin on it, Raw Thrills has come up with an innovative way of making the game more challenging!

I'm sorry that was wrong of me.
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Post #7007 · Posted at 2009-07-31 02:51:03am 16 years ago

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To put a positive spin on it, Raw Thrills has come up with an innovative way of making the game more challenging!

I'm sorry that was wrong of me.
No no no, they've poured thousands of dollars into making sure that little kids stomping around on the pads won't make the pads less fun to play on. You should praise them for being successful in their hard work.
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Post #7008 · Posted at 2009-07-31 03:21:36am 16 years ago

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Didn't they used to do that with PS3's back when people were camping out for them? *smirk*
People have been doing that with pretty much every new console release.
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Post #7009 · Posted at 2009-07-31 03:35:54am 16 years ago

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Post #7010 · Posted at 2009-07-31 03:38:18am 16 years ago

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I'm still waiting for them to put bear traps on the panels, that would officially make me quit DDR forever.
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Post #7011 · Posted at 2009-07-31 03:42:55am 16 years ago

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"Sarah/Autumn"
Yeah, there's nothing worse than going up to play DDR only to find a very pissed off bear on the pads.
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Post #7012 · Posted at 2009-07-31 04:14:12am 16 years ago

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I know these boards are full of n00bs(except a few of you) but have you heard that DukAmok talked about playing on a "fixed" machine and that all places that have the game will get the fix?

Post #7013 · Posted at 2009-07-31 04:31:29am 16 years ago

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I had heard something about a "second" pad fix (Many places received a "first" pad fix, which did not help in a significant way) but I had not heard that every machine would be getting one. Still, unless they fix the lag, I will still deem it to be bordering on the edge of unplayability.

Post #7014 · Posted at 2009-07-31 04:35:07am 16 years ago

Offline al2k4
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Somehow I doubt that statement applies in Europe.

Post #7015 · Posted at 2009-07-31 04:49:09am 16 years ago

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Ahhh yes. Well there's always hope.

Post #7016 · Posted at 2009-07-31 04:54:26am 16 years ago

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I know these boards are full of n00bs(except a few of you) but have you heard that DukAmok talked about playing on a "fixed" machine and that all places that have the game will get the fix?
Hey you.

Shut up.
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Post #7017 · Posted at 2009-07-31 09:14:42am 16 years ago

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"Sarah/Autumn"
Some of us go to AIJ, you know.
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Post #7018 · Posted at 2009-07-31 01:13:19pm 16 years ago

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Quote: Danny Astro
I know these boards are full of n00bs(except a few of you) but have you heard that DukAmok talked about playing on a "fixed" machine and that all places that have the game will get the fix?
dammit i blame LBS for giving that impression
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Post #7019 · Posted at 2009-07-31 03:00:11pm 16 years ago

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"On ZiV I'm like Princess Diana"
Well, it looks like the US release may be getting a bit better. June H. reports that an update has gone out for DDR X US machines that fixes most of the lag issues. June H. also advises that you contact Betson if your Arcade pads suck and they will come by and implement a fix for the pads. This apparently don't make them as good as a Japan dedicab, but at least makes it playable.

Post #7020 · Posted at 2009-07-31 04:54:11pm 16 years ago

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"Give me a steady beat."
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Well, it looks like the US release may be getting a bit better. June H. reports that an update has gone out for DDR X US machines that fixes most of the lag issues. June H. also advises that you contact Betson if your Arcade pads suck and they will come by and implement a fix for the pads. This apparently don't make them as good as a Japan dedicab, but at least makes it playable.

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