DanceDanceRevolution X (AC) (International)

It's a crossover, featured on the GF4&dm3 soundtrack.

I don't think unlock codes (if any) have been released yet.

I have no idea where that is, but really unless PMall gets it (and they're still stuck on SuperNOVA) I probably won't go out of my way to play on a terrible cabinet.

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Good luck entering them.

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It's in Niagara Falls, downtown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SeP-j0vkGo

I have a better chance of taking a vacation to Niagara Falls than XS getting DDR X so, who knows

I've been to a D&B's before near Markham (they had a broken Pump it Up Zero DX cabinet), good food there on a Saturday night. In the winter especially, Niagara Falls is a pretty beautiful city all year round.

Now we know the cause of the low quality. They've been sending them over Niagara Falls for publicity.

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The pads are shit, they need to be fixed. Seriously!

Anyone know when the pads in Sunset Gameworks DDR X cab will be fixed or something? :/ I don't feel like going in to just play Extreme or SN. <_<

I guess at the Seattle Gameworks, there was a Gameworks employee applying something to the pads. I guess he got a fax from Betson or something after they shipped something to fix the pad. So even if they can't make it to the arcade, it looks like they are at least sending out parts to correct the problem with the pads.

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It's Betsons way of saying "We can't make this machine wroth a crap, you do it.". Whatever, at less they are doing something about the pads.

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BarX = way fucking awesome.

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Well, I just played DDR X at SVGL after coming back on short leave from work. I gotta say, it's a lot better than I was led to believe. Yeah, yeah, the one-sensor crap sucks, and theres visual lag, but Konami was good on the audio synchronization.

Honestly, to all of you people who rely on rocking the pads to get those really hard notes, DDR X is a wake-up call:

STOP RAPING THE BAR!

The reason DDR X International sucks so much is because you people raped the bar too hard. SuperNOVA got pregnant and had THIS retarded bastard child.

I swear... Last night I was playing with some asian girl (I think she was korean, but that doesn't really matter...) She was playing the left side and bar raping, while I was freestyling on the right side. We played two stages and I got better scores than her. So she and her friends start saying that the 1st player pad is messed up. I tell them there's only one sensor and they go "No way, it's the f***ing pad." When we switched platforms on the last round I STILL had a better score than her...

I'm sorry, the only dance-sim action I got while I was in Fairfield (right before I came back to the bay area) was at this ITG freakshow where all the kids were elitist wannabes who have an addiction long, large, hard shafts.

And please, think before you -5 me. If you're just bonking me because I'm flaming like a madman, then you're doing it for the wrong reason. This post brings up a valid point. People who play hard songs without holding the bar are better than people who have to hold the bar to pass that same song. I don't care if you have your initials at number 1, if you can't let go of that bar it doesn't mean a damn thing, except maybe for those ITG pad mixes that you'll never ever see on a DDR machine because Konami doesn't think their hardcore players are good enough for it, even though they probably are.

Oh, another thing: The rating system is SOOOOOOOO bad. How is "Moon" a 12-footer?

EDIT:
I forgot to mention that the trick to playing DDR X the way it is now is to take the on-screen notes and run them through your own head in time with the music. I've managed to get an A, and I love "Tabibito" even if the chart is crap.

Until you post videos showing otherwise, I'm going to simply assume you don't know how to tell when you're getting pad crap.
I've seen people bar rape poorly and do bad.
I've seen people use the bar for balance, and do well. I've also seen those same people no bar and still do far better than me.

Bar or no bar, you still get pad crap from crap pads. That girl you mentioned might simply have poor timing.
I don't believe you have the skill to tell. mute on r21freak is somebody that I know has the skill to tell when he's getting pad crap, and try various things to avoid it.

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I do not use the bar except for high end stuff (stuff above 16) I can tell you that people are not exaggerating when they say that the pad and syncing are absolute garbage on the new cabs. The pads themselves feel pretty thin and awkward, freeze arrows do not hold for more than two seconds, and I have to concentrate like crazy just to get A's on the simplest of songs while AA's on 9s were natural to me on SN2.

People having non-consentual physical relations with the bar has nothing to do with it.

btw, if you want actual facts, here's some.
People who use the bar well pull their feet in more towards the center. This means that they hit the panels near the center of the inner edge. In the video that mute posted, the center of the inner edge is the only spot that the panel responds to. Therefore, bar users are more likely to hit where it actually counts.

Playing no bar would put more weight on the panel when you step. This could make a difference in getting pad crap, but mute specifically stated that he tried stepping harder and many other things to reduce the pad crap. Nothing worked for him.

If you're wondering what would make me believe you can tell when you get pad crap, post an SN2 or X AAA video, on a old style 8. I say SN2 or X AAA because that allows you to get a couple greats, thus making it very easy.

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If for no other reason than everyone is wrongfully siding against you...

I've done both, bar raping and without. And bar raping, from experience, lightens my steps on the pad giving me a worse score than what I would have gotten if I had exerted just a little more energy to play without it. This is on older, well built machines.

The bar is there to prevent you from falling if you lose your footing, I've had to grab hold a few times coming out a spin or a pad leap wrong. The DDR X machines even SAY not to lean on or apply weight to the bars. It has never been a good way to play because it prevents you from building your leg muscles and learning proper balance and among original players is considered cheating. Just like the kids who use 2x and Solo or else they can't pass anything on HEAVY.

The fact that the American DDR X sucks worse for bar rapers is sweet irony to me. Maybe, juuust maybe, people will learn how to play the way that DDR was intended to be played now. Probably not.

I still fail to see what that has to do with the horrible construction of Betson's DDR X Cabinets. Any good player would actually know whether or not a pad is really shitty whether or not they actually use the bar or not.

If you honestly believe that holding on to the bar has something to do with the fact that Betson is spending less on their pads because they know that people are still gonna buy thier crap anyway, then you're probably out of your damn mind.

It was just the simple fact you knew where to step on the pads that got you the better score. The bar really has nothing to do with this and all this meaningless bullshit you're ranting about doesn't change the fact Betson doesn't know how to make a cabinet.

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Pluto Relinquish "the way it was meant to be played"
If Konami actually intended a no bar game, guess what, they wouldn't be making such BS charts, now would they?

If bar raping lightens your steps enough to give you extra pad crap, you're doing it wrong. Look at where and how you're placing your feet, and adjust the amount of force you use appropriately. You don't have to worry about balance, so you have the attention to spare to control your feet better.

People who actually put significant weight on the bar are using it wrong, and are beaten by the people who simply use it for a bit of balance.
The top stamina players like Calimist, Mad Matt, The Cosmic Pope all have superb balance and leg muscles. The people I play with locally all have legs just as developed as mine. Why? Because using the bar doesn't prevent building that. It just allows you to score better with what you have.

The fact that you think people should be punished for playing differently shows just how little you are.

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Riddle me this, Fallacy. If Konami intended this game to be a no bar game, would they have put the bar there to begin with? The game was meant to be played with the bar, whether or not the community thinks it's a good thing or not. Some people just have really bad balance to begin with. In order for them to stabilize themselves, they would need to use the bar to ease their balance issue and be able to have fun and play the game.

A huge part of the DDR that's been there since the first game is to actually have fun playing it. If we have a whole community ridiculing us for using something that was built INTO the game experience, it suddenly becomes a lot less of that. Who really gives two shits if you play with the bar or not? As long as your having fun, grabbing on to the bar or just letting your body balance on your own shouldn't ruin your experience of playing the game.

Probably a good reason why people even ridiculed the bar in the earlier versions was because of difficulty level of the songs. None of them were particularly demanding and there weren't any extreme tempo changes like songs these days have now. The songs could easily be cleared without the bar and people would call it a day and probably have a smoke outside. Because of more physically demanding songs, like the MAX set and the PARANOiA sets past EXTREME, it would require you to hold the bar to compensate and control your stamina for clearing the song.

Regardless of this stupid bar issue going on, Betson made a horrible cabinet and the bars have nothing to do with it. The simple fact you don't even know about the new DDR X rating system should actually be yelling something to all of us:

You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about.

kthnxbai.

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Going off of other stuff in X, Moon should be rated a 10 at most on X, so that part of his post was actually legit.

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