Post #6421 · Posted at 2011-01-28 12:44:05am 14.6 years ago
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Just checking: the Extra Stage systems have been like this, right?
SuperNOVA:
- ES conditions are the same except the song is Faxx/Felm/HDV
SuperNOVA:
- ES conditions are the same except the song is Faxx/Felm/HDV

Only thing I would add is HDV is only accessible by AAing your final stage on Heavy when choosing Easy or Difficult song groups, otherwise you get FaxX/Felm
Quote: Zowayix
SuperNOVA2:
- Here is where I get confused about the ES system.
- A any song before Final Stage to unlock a special Final Stage song on the difficulty the song was A'd (


- AA any song before Final Stage to unlock a special Final Stage song on all difficulties except

- Do you have to play the special Final Stage song to unlock ES?
- ES can be any song on the same difficulty Final Stage was played on. Some special songs are only playable on ES.
- Unlock EES on the same difficulty ES was played on by AAing ES on any of the special songs. EES can be any song, but again, some special songs are only playable on EES.
- ES only has a battery lifebar forced on. It has 1, 2, 3, or 4 lives depending on score in Final Stage. EES is forced to no mods and a 1 life battery.
First: Depending on what unlock is entered, you will receive a special final stage if you make an A on any song before final. If Max unlock is entered, all boss songs turn red. Whatever difficulty you made the A on is what difficulty the boss songs will be available at. If you made an AA on Heavy, all difficulties are available except Challenge and Beginner.
Second: Without max unlock, you must AA a boss song on Final Stage. Depending on the boss song you AA you will reveal the next Boss song for Encore Extra Stage in the order: NGO ->Trip Machine Phoenix ->Paranoia Hades -> Pluto -> Pluto Relinquish. So if NGO and TMP are available and you AA NGO, PH will not be revealed. For Encore Extra Stage it will follow suit, revealing the next song.
If Max Unlock is in place, you can choose a random Heavy song for your final stage and AA it to get an Extra Stage. On Extra Stage choosing Random Heavy again and AAing that nets you the EES. Not sure if this works prior to Max Unlock being entered.
Quote: Zowayix
- Is there a special Final Stage song? I heard deltaMAX was only playable on Final Stage before it was fully unlocked, but that might have been false.
If you are talking about the US verson, deltaMAX is available out of the box.
Quote: Zowayix
- (The location test had POSSESSION as the special Final Stage song , with a different

- Unlock ES by AAing every previous song.
- Kimono Princess is only playable on ES.
- (Does ES always have 4 lives now? Or is it possible to have fewer?)
- Unlock EES by AAing (KP only? Or any song?)
- EES used to be any song, with roppongi Evolved only playable on EES. Now, EES is forced to only rE; the first forced song since EXTREME, discounting RDA.
- There are 6 Replicant-D-Action songs only playable on ES. If one is AA'd on



- After getting all 6 medals, they are removed and the screen proceeds directly to EES forced on Valkyrie Dimension

I'm sure I got something wrong in the above wall of text, so let me know of any corrections.
Once again, if speaking of the US version, Kimono Princess will be revealed for Extra stage if you AA all of your songs. The difficulty you can play Kimono Princess on depends on the sum of the difficulties you AA'd previously. Replicant-D-Action is not available at all. I believe you have to AA KP and you will unlock roppongi evolved on the difficulty you were given for KP. The ES system I believe gives you lives based on score just as before.
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^ MAX2 and EXTREME also added the Dark Modifier.
Don't know about Max2 but Extreme didn't add Dark to the Extra Stage.
Post #6422 · Posted at 2011-01-28 12:48:49am 14.6 years ago
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Max 2 definitely did add Dark as a modifier.
Post #6423 · Posted at 2011-01-28 04:21:43am 14.6 years ago
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Man I never thought something as simple as EXTRA STAGE can get so complex.

Post #6424 · Posted at 2011-01-28 04:35:31am 14.6 years ago
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This just seems unnecessarily complex.
Is this how the IIDX extra stage systems work, too?
But hey, at least Konami seems to be keeping everyone on their toes. That's worth something, I guess.

But hey, at least Konami seems to be keeping everyone on their toes. That's worth something, I guess.
Post #6425 · Posted at 2011-01-28 05:11:25am 14.6 years ago
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I don't think it's possible to access roppongi EVOLVED by doing anything other than AA'ing KP on
. I would have remembered if you could get to it on
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Post #6426 · Posted at 2011-01-28 05:42:47am 14.6 years ago
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deltaMax is also available on non e-amuse asian machines. I played and failed the
chart.
On X, you were vying for Saber Wing Remix and Trigger. If the total step counts are not enough, you get Saber Wing and on the bounce.
And I don't know about the ES lifebar and Kimono Princess. Everyone I saw who got it, they all had 4 lives.
Makou, Replicant D Action is the IIDX extra stage. Actually the entire extra stage system may be from IIDX. Two songs (with one of those explicitly chosen by you) that you get to play on the regular song wheel, or access a special list where you play harder songs.
EDIT: And at least for Valkyrie Dimension, you automatically play EES right after you pass ES.

On X, you were vying for Saber Wing Remix and Trigger. If the total step counts are not enough, you get Saber Wing and on the bounce.
And I don't know about the ES lifebar and Kimono Princess. Everyone I saw who got it, they all had 4 lives.
Makou, Replicant D Action is the IIDX extra stage. Actually the entire extra stage system may be from IIDX. Two songs (with one of those explicitly chosen by you) that you get to play on the regular song wheel, or access a special list where you play harder songs.
EDIT: And at least for Valkyrie Dimension, you automatically play EES right after you pass ES.
Post #6427 · Posted at 2011-01-28 06:06:59am 14.6 years ago
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I believe for DDRMAX, the Encore Extra Stage didn't have Candy on 3x, I think it was on 1.5x and changed for Kakumei and Dance Dance Revolution.
But I wouldn't bet my life on it.
But I wouldn't bet my life on it.
Post #6428 · Posted at 2011-01-28 07:15:50am 14.6 years ago
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Candy OMES was x1.5 dark reverse, Kakumei and DDR OMES were x3, Dark (for Kakumei only) and Reverse.
Post #6429 · Posted at 2011-01-28 09:17:07am 14.6 years ago
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DDR EXTREME used 3x for the DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION EES stage. Before that, all EESs were 1.5x.
Post #6430 · Posted at 2011-01-28 10:07:06pm 14.6 years ago
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in Extreme, only the EES is forced, not the Extra Stage, same as SN.
in SN2 and X you are not forced to play the same song for Encore. (X-Specials can be played as Extra and EES for DDRX)
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For Battery lives, depend of your last performance. If you get an AAA, you will get your battery at full load (4 lives). If you get AA, just 3 or lower. (confusing) with the exception of EES, which is always playing in Risky (1 Life)
in SN2 and X you are not forced to play the same song for Encore. (X-Specials can be played as Extra and EES for DDRX)
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For Battery lives, depend of your last performance. If you get an AAA, you will get your battery at full load (4 lives). If you get AA, just 3 or lower. (confusing) with the exception of EES, which is always playing in Risky (1 Life)
Post #6431 · Posted at 2011-01-28 11:25:07pm 14.6 years ago
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DDRMax: Max 300 1.5x Reverse, Candy 1.5x Reverse (I dont remember dark being on there at all)
DDRMax2: Maxx unlimited 1.5x Reverse, Kakumei 3x reverse dark (Dark was DEFINITELY used on this one)
Extreme: LOM 1.5x reverse, DDR 3x Reverse Oni chart no dark.
Going back on topic anyway, whats left now, just the Replicants and anything we dont already know about?
DDRMax2: Maxx unlimited 1.5x Reverse, Kakumei 3x reverse dark (Dark was DEFINITELY used on this one)
Extreme: LOM 1.5x reverse, DDR 3x Reverse Oni chart no dark.
Going back on topic anyway, whats left now, just the Replicants and anything we dont already know about?
Post #6432 · Posted at 2011-01-29 02:20:53am 14.6 years ago
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Full unlock of chinese songs and RDA songs.
Maybe some surprise entering THE LAST Internet Raking.
Maybe some surprise entering THE LAST Internet Raking.
Post #6433 · Posted at 2011-01-29 03:47:45am 14.6 years ago
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DS Fusion forces you to play:
Extra Stage : Paranoia Survivor Heavy 1.5x Reverse
OMES : Xenon Heavy 3x Reverse (no dark)
SuperNOVA is, by far, the best incarnation of Extra Stage.
Extra Stage : Paranoia Survivor Heavy 1.5x Reverse
OMES : Xenon Heavy 3x Reverse (no dark)
SuperNOVA is, by far, the best incarnation of Extra Stage.
Post #6434 · Posted at 2011-01-29 04:34:30am 14.6 years ago
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Quote: Tyma
DS Fusion forces you to play:
Extra Stage : Paranoia Survivor Heavy 1.5x Reverse
OMES : Xenon Heavy 3x Reverse (no dark)
Extra Stage : Paranoia Survivor Heavy 1.5x Reverse
OMES : Xenon Heavy 3x Reverse (no dark)
Is there any confirmation this is true?
Post #6435 · Posted at 2011-01-29 04:41:28am 14.6 years ago
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Full unlock of chinese songs
Technically, they've already been unlocked. They're just the 
Post #6436 · Posted at 2011-01-29 06:46:07am 14.6 years ago
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When was Pluto the First fully unlocked? IIRC it was only unlocked for a few days.
Post #6437 · Posted at 2011-01-29 06:54:08am 14.6 years ago
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1/1 until 1/4.
Post #6438 · Posted at 2011-01-29 08:42:45am 14.6 years ago
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If any of you in NA or EU play on an X2 dedicab soon, could you please post pics of the inside of the pads? It would be nice to know if the sensor placement is exactly the same as X. Thanks in advance. 

Post #6439 · Posted at 2011-01-29 09:01:26am 14.6 years ago
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When was Pluto the First fully unlocked? IIRC it was only unlocked for a few days.
It was for the first three days of 2011.Post #6440 · Posted at 2011-01-29 09:12:42am 14.6 years ago
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DS Fusion forces you to play:
Extra Stage : Paranoia Survivor Heavy 1.5x Reverse
OMES : Xenon Heavy 3x Reverse (no dark)
Extra Stage : Paranoia Survivor Heavy 1.5x Reverse
OMES : Xenon Heavy 3x Reverse (no dark)
Is there any confirmation this is true?
Far as I remember that is correct on our Fusion, but unsure of the mods it used. It was only ever achieved once on our machine.