Post #6381 · Posted at 2009-09-29 04:49:27am 16.2 years ago
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Hmmm...all of a sudden a politics thread sounds like an interesting idea. 
User ratings might take a pretty big plunge from it though...
User ratings might take a pretty big plunge from it though...
Post #6382 · Posted at 2009-09-29 04:54:10am 16.2 years ago
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They're all the same anyway.
consevative guy: OBAMA IS HITLER
liberal guy: WELL ACTUALLY OBAMA IS MAKING SIGNIFICANT STRIDES IN IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF AMERICAN HEALTH CARE (or whatever the current issue is)
conservative guy: WELL I WANT BUSH'
random anarchist: YOU ARE BOTH WRONG THERE SHOULD BE NO GOVERNMENT
everyone else: tl;dr
consevative guy: OBAMA IS HITLER
liberal guy: WELL ACTUALLY OBAMA IS MAKING SIGNIFICANT STRIDES IN IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF AMERICAN HEALTH CARE (or whatever the current issue is)
conservative guy: WELL I WANT BUSH'
random anarchist: YOU ARE BOTH WRONG THERE SHOULD BE NO GOVERNMENT
everyone else: tl;dr
Post #6383 · Posted at 2009-09-29 05:14:07am 16.2 years ago
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The way I understand it (I try my best to follow politics but am not the best at it), the arguements (on the less radical and stupid level) go like:
Conservative guy: Obama is causing the already high national deficit to go even higher with his extreme spending plans, which is gonna suck in the long run. If you just leave the economy alone, it will naturally come back up as prices are eventually forced to come back down. Also, he is redistributing wealth earned by higher class hard working people to benefit the lower class which is made up of people unwilling to do anything for society and live off government programs. This new health care plan also has sections that hint at the government controlling you choice of a doctor which will lead to several major problems.
Liberal guy: The increase in the national deficit caused by Obama's plans are bad but still required to get us out of this current economic slump. It will not fix itself if left alone and is just going to spiral down into another great depression. Also, the lower class is made up of (not necessarily lazy) people too and we shouldnt just say "forget them theyre lazy". The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and we should do something about it. Also, the health care plan being proposed says nothing about the things conservatives say they do.
Conservative guy: Obama is causing the already high national deficit to go even higher with his extreme spending plans, which is gonna suck in the long run. If you just leave the economy alone, it will naturally come back up as prices are eventually forced to come back down. Also, he is redistributing wealth earned by higher class hard working people to benefit the lower class which is made up of people unwilling to do anything for society and live off government programs. This new health care plan also has sections that hint at the government controlling you choice of a doctor which will lead to several major problems.
Liberal guy: The increase in the national deficit caused by Obama's plans are bad but still required to get us out of this current economic slump. It will not fix itself if left alone and is just going to spiral down into another great depression. Also, the lower class is made up of (not necessarily lazy) people too and we shouldnt just say "forget them theyre lazy". The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and we should do something about it. Also, the health care plan being proposed says nothing about the things conservatives say they do.
Post #6384 · Posted at 2009-09-29 05:35:35am 16.2 years ago
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Hmmm...all of a sudden a politics thread sounds like an interesting idea.
No, it doesn't.
Seriously, every time I see a political thread appear in a forum, it leads to people going at each other's throats.
Post #6385 · Posted at 2009-09-29 05:44:12am 16.2 years ago
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I don't expect too many people from here posting in it.
Maybe like 3 people who actually know politics and then a bunch of kids who scream political figure names to sound smart but actually have no idea what they're talking about.
Maybe like 3 people who actually know politics and then a bunch of kids who scream political figure names to sound smart but actually have no idea what they're talking about.
Post #6386 · Posted at 2009-09-29 05:44:58am 16.2 years ago
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Hmm...I try to be bi-partisan, but a good 65% of the conservatives I've talked to aren't. Thus enforcing the stereotype. The 35% that aren't use logic to prove a point and it usually makes sense where they got there opinion. But much of the 65% aforementioned are all like "My word is the truth and that's that" With either no logic or askewed logic.
I would vote conservative if I agree with their opinion, but some things some conservatives say makes me go "what in the red hell are they thinking?"
I would vote conservative if I agree with their opinion, but some things some conservatives say makes me go "what in the red hell are they thinking?"
Post #6387 · Posted at 2009-09-29 05:57:04am 16.2 years ago
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bipartisan doesn't mean both conservative and liberal. It means both Republican and Democrat. There are conservative democrats and liberal republicans. Very few, but they exist.
Post #6388 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:01:39am 16.2 years ago
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bipartisan doesn't mean both conservative and liberal. It means both Republican and Democrat. There are conservative democrats and liberal republicans. Very few, but they exist.
I know that, but generally conservatism is associated with republicans. I've met many conservative democrats. I consider myself a moderate democrat.Meh, dinnertime.
Post #6389 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:03:12am 16.2 years ago
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Enough talk about politics, this thread is now about boats.
Post #6390 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:05:14am 16.2 years ago
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lol my dreads are almost as long as T-Pain's.
Edit: lol 444 posts. 4 is my favorite number.
Edit: lol 444 posts. 4 is my favorite number.
Post #6391 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:06:49am 16.2 years ago
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Okay, so what does that have to do with bipartisanship? You can't just assume republican = conservative.
Post #6392 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:09:13am 16.2 years ago
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Okay, so what does that have to do with bipartisanship? You can't just assume republican = conservative.
I just said generally. Generally does not equal all the time.Post #6393 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:14:46am 16.2 years ago
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But in the statement I responded to, you made the assumption that republican = conservative by replacing republican with conservative. At least that's the only conclusion I could come up with since bipartisanship doesn't have to do with political ideology.
Post #6394 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:17:52am 16.2 years ago
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bipartisan doesn't mean both conservative and liberal. It means both Republican and Democrat. There are conservative democrats and liberal republicans. Very few, but they exist.
One of which is the junior senator of the state of New York, Kirsten Gillibrand. Honestly, she's the first Conservative Democrat I know of...Post #6395 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:18:38am 16.2 years ago
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But in the statement I responded to, you made the assumption that republican = conservative by replacing republican with conservative. At least that's the only conclusion I could come up with since bipartisanship doesn't have to do with political ideology.
Well if that's the theory you came up with, then that's your theory. I made a mistake in choosing my words. There. That what you wanted me to say?In other news, I'm scared to walk home even though that gang fight happened nowhere near my house afaik.
Post #6396 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:19:51am 16.2 years ago
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Quote: Bolt-Edge
I don't expect too many people from here posting in it.
Maybe like 3 people who actually know politics and then a bunch of kids who scream political figure names to sound smart but actually have no idea what they're talking about.
Maybe like 3 people who actually know politics and then a bunch of kids who scream political figure names to sound smart but actually have no idea what they're talking about.
That's why I don't even pretend to know politics. The most interest I've shown in politics in the last few years was
"Hey, who won?"
"Obama."
"Ahh."
Post #6397 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:21:57am 16.2 years ago
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Quote: Bolt-Edge
But in the statement I responded to, you made the assumption that republican = conservative by replacing republican with conservative. At least that's the only conclusion I could come up with since bipartisanship doesn't have to do with political ideology.
Well if that's the theory you came up with, then that's your theory. I made a mistake in choosing my words. There. That what you wanted me to say?In other news, I'm scared to walk home even though that gang fight happened nowhere near my house afaik.
Post #6398 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:24:14am 16.2 years ago
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Quote: Bolt-Edge
Quote: Nipponophiliac
Quote: Bolt-Edge
But in the statement I responded to, you made the assumption that republican = conservative by replacing republican with conservative. At least that's the only conclusion I could come up with since bipartisanship doesn't have to do with political ideology.
Well if that's the theory you came up with, then that's your theory. I made a mistake in choosing my words. There. That what you wanted me to say?In other news, I'm scared to walk home even though that gang fight happened nowhere near my house afaik.
Post #6399 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:25:46am 16.2 years ago
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Nope, that's good enough
But thanks for proving my point.
But thanks for proving my point.
Post #6400 · Posted at 2009-09-29 06:54:41am 16.2 years ago
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Boats/thread