Hardest non-boss Expert songs (old scale)

The title says non-boss songs.

They felt like non-boss songs, sorry.

I'm a furry. I can't read.

6 - Under the Sky
7 - Sunkiss Drop / Dam Dariram (KCP Mix)
8 - Do You Remember Me / Witch Doctor
9 - Arrabbiata / Cartoon Heroes (Speedy Mix)
10 - Xepher

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BUMP!! Sorry
Im surprised none of you guys remembered a little 6 called Go West. Technically this is the hardest 6 without bullshiting the rating like Akiba Drift.

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Hardest 6: Brilliant 2U
Hardest 7: D2R
Hardest 8: Witch Doctor
Hardest 9: Arrabbiata

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7 = Either THE RACE or UPSIDE DOWN from 3rd Mix. Back when 130-140 bpm stepjump streams were the shit.
8 = Blind Justice ~Torn Souls, Hurt Faith~ or HAPPY*ANGEL (really, those are EIGHTS?!)
9 = CARTOON HEROES (Speedy Mix)
10 = Arabbiatta or deltaMAX

Also:

8 = NONSTOP C (BRILLIANT 2U + SP-TRIP MACHINE + PARANOiA EVOLUTION)
9 = Power 3 (Audiolab Mix)
10 = Power 4 (Industry Mix)

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Hardest songs (Using Extreme ratings)
5 Footer Butterfly
6 Footer Briliant 2 U
7 Footer Celebrate Night?
8 Footer Waka Laka (A friend of mine passed Max 300 and can't do the step jumps, I didn't know and felt like a jerk)
9 Footer Cartoon Heroes
10 Footer 888

If we looked at just Extreme, then I kinda feel like Sakura would take 888's place. I focus on Extreme cause I play that mix and X2 more than any other.

Also, I love Doubles, so:
5 Footer: Remember You (is there another one?)
6 Footer: Keep on Movin'
7 Footer: Ordinary World
Ah damn, that step chart OW
So Fun..so deadly
8 Footer : Brilliant 2U Orchestra Groove
9 Footer: Healing Vision Angelic Mix
10 Footer: Genome Screams

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Hardest:

6 footer: Akiba Drift
7 footer: Sunkiss Drop
8 footer: Waka Laka
9 footer: Arrabbiata

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Wulfy sir, you absolutely MUST play PARANOiA Survivor MAX . Just once, for kicks. ;)

Whoops, forgot the whole "non-boss" part. My bad, disregard.

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lolo, Nighttime, I've beaten PSMO on doubles and singles. Quite fun, lol. (I love the step chart!) But yeah, the whole non-boss song adendum kinda excludes most Paranoias and Trip Machines, etc.

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Hardest 6: Briliant 2 U
Hardest 7: Sunkiss Drop and D2R
Hardest 8: Witch Doctor and SOUL CRASH
Hardest 9: Arabbiatta and So Deep

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Cartoon Heroes>So Deep. O_o

I find it hard to honestly hard to compare arrabiattia and Cartoon Heroes because the machines I use are two hours apart. I doubt Cartoon Heroes would be rerated as a 14 (10) footer.

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I wouldn't.

No one else thinks exotic ethnic is a dirtbag of a 9...? Maybe it's easier if you're not doing the crossovers... song tires me out like no other, even if the stepchart isn't complicated. Yes, that is keeping in mind HV:AM, Cartoon Heroes, and So Deep. CSFIL:SM is also oddly exhausting...

Seconding/thirding/whatevering Witch Doctor and Waka Laka as hard 8s.

... don't know squat about the other levels. o_o;

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I think exotic ethnic on Double is a dirtbag of a 9. Figure eights at 190bpm? You dirtbag...

HV:AM is more tiring than EE. I think Exotic is actually REALLY easy compared to other 9s, but I love crossovers. IN fact, the only thing that makes Cartoon Heroes difficult for me is not the complicated crossovers, it's the step-jump-step-jump-step-jump pattern just before the first real stream. (Also, the jump after the gallops and before the complicated cross over causes me a misread), but CH is definitely draining. LoveM is easy for me, but I used to get drained by Speed Over Beethoven (Which I think should've been a nine...)


I think Witch Doctor is harder than Waka as I've AA'd the latter more solidly. I've only AA witch doctor once, I think. O_o


I disagree because you can just jump the freezes. HV"AM has spins which go across the pad or are pad specific or look like jumbled double stepping, which is easily more annoying.

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Actually, if we count Home Version 10's (Mad Blast, Guidecca, G2, Outer Limits) I find Outer Limits harder then Xepher. While Xepher has more crossovers, Outer Limits has some 8th notes bursts that are fairly tricky.

Guidecca is questionable. It's like Hillbilly Hardcore vs. Xuxa on ITG. Guidecca is much more constant then Xepher, but slower.

Hardest 9's
Arabbiatta
Cartoon Heroes
SO DEEP (used to be but I find it pretty easy now)

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Apparently, I'm part of some weird group that finds "harder" 9s fairly easy.

Cartoon Heroes and So Deep are most just gallops, and I find the gallops fairly easy. HVAM might be fast, but it's just 8ths. Double-stepping 8ths isn't that hard. Arabbiatta is legit hard though.

Xenon has a lot of weird rhythms, and I'm surprised nobody mentioned Max (Period) yet. (For the average "standard" player, the ending is impossible to read) I fucked up on my OWN EFFING THREAD

Max (Period). is a boss song.

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