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Post #41 · Posted at 2008-10-30 08:22:51pm 16.6 years ago

Offline Kynayo
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"キナヨ"
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Sadly, I still haven't managed to do better. I think I've hit my peak for skill. This bugs me because every other serious player in my area can 90+ practically every 10 and at least pass most 11s, if not most 12s. The only consoling thing is that they've all been playing 2-3 more years than me.

I'm one of them that can pass pracitcally every 10, and some elevens. But I have passed one 12, and I could probably pass Dream to Nightmare.
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Post #42 · Posted at 2008-10-31 01:19:01am 16.6 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
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Stamina train. Just play fast songs all the time and you'll eventually get to passing all the 11's and 12's.
Yeah, I kinda knew that already. I'd have to be pretty stupid to get to this skill level without realizing that playing hard songs often will make them easier to do. I wasn't asking for advice, because I already know how to become better.
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Post #43 · Posted at 2008-10-31 10:53:27am 16.6 years ago

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Practice on this song and most others will become a breeze.

Kiranger

And I had an 86% on this song before I video'd it, I can 90 it now.

Post #44 · Posted at 2008-10-31 11:53:39am 16.6 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
I think I'd rather stick forks in my ears than play that song. Speedcore is terrible to me. Stamina permitting, I could probably do everything except the 8ths, those would break my combo, maybe make me fail. Reminds me of the first half of Vertex expert.
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Post #45 · Posted at 2008-11-01 10:24:02am 16.6 years ago

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I decided to play Calendar Girl tonight just to see what I could do on it. I got 23 Perfects and 2 Greats = 98.99%, I took a screen cap if you wanted to see my score and yes of course I play on pad, I never play KB and even if I did I can't pass $#!+ on KB, although the bar does help me out a bit (I played for 5 years on plain CF pads, and for the past two years with my base+bar mod). Actually the first year I played on 6 cheap flat pads and 6 foam pads, they all broke from my big @$$ (I'm 6'7" and used to weigh 235, I'm now 190), the second year I had CF's, they lasted 4 years, the fifth year I re-furbished my CF pads and built the base+bar mod and it they lasted 1 more year, the sixth year I built my own pads in CF style but a little better and that's what I play on still, the reason my CF pads died was from chairs and kids tugging on the control wires, so my current pads have no exposed wires. So while I have adopted the bar I spent many years without ever touching a bar.

But my suggestion for you right now is to get some rug grip from wal-mart and cut it so it fits under your CF pad to keep it from sliding when you play intense songs, or go buy a second CF and build a base+bar mod (best thing I ever did aside from getting the CF's in the first place).

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=2510676
This is what I used to use (although it wasn't that big and cost less than $25 when I got it).

Post #46 · Posted at 2008-11-01 01:08:08pm 16.6 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Yeah, it'll be a long time before I even get 90% on Calendar Girl. I'll take your word for it.

It might not be visible in that pad, but I actually do have a second CF, and the bar that you're supposed to use to hook them together. The problem is though, the carpet has enough give that when my weight is on one edge, the other edge goes up ~1/8 of an inch. So if I attach them with the bar, they separate over the course of a few hours, damaging the bar.
So, I don't consider hooking them together with that bar to be a usable solution.
I'd already thought of the base idea, though I had envisioned it as more of a frame than a base, because I've prefer to keep the low profile. I'll stay no bar though, because a frequent problem for me at the arcade is bumping the bar with my heels while playing doubles. Hurts a bit when you're playing in socks. Only problem with making a frame is that I don't have a vehicle, or a shop to build things in.
I'll look into getting the rug grip though.

Mainly though, I need to get over this irritating knee injury. Sad Keeps me from playing most nights. If not for that, I'd probably be more solidly in the 10 footer range, and not have failed the Tribal Style + Summer in Belize + Walking On Fire set I tried to do the other night. (ran out of stamina 1/3 into WoF) Pad motion isn't really a problem for me right now, with a few exceptions.
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Post #47 · Posted at 2008-11-01 01:52:49pm 16.6 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun
I'll stay no bar though, because a frequent problem for me at the arcade is bumping the bar with my heels while playing doubles. Hurts a bit when you're playing in socks.
I've never heard anyone complain of that, how odd. ALSO instead of socks, get some cotton soled kung fu shoes, they will last much longer than socks and are still very light and just as slippery as socks (you'll see I use them all the time unless I'm doing doubles where I need grip). Also the kung fu shoes will protect your feet more than just socks (I used to get crazy blisters and cuts with just socks now I only play in kung fu shoes and they are CHEAP).

Base = 2 x 3/4" plywood (one measured to be the size of the two CF pads + attachment bar, use your tape measure) the second sheet will be longer to be the size of both pads + (the size of the frame, mine is made of 2x6's in the front and sides, and a 2x8 in the rear, however it's a little too big, I suggest you do 2x4's all around but do keep the 2x8 in the rear, you may want to add a bar someday, and the extra room will be good to just stand on, plus on my pads the extra wood for the base mod will prevent falling off the pad). Putting both pieces of plywood layered makes the CF stand up just above the wood. You can get Home Depot to make all the cuts of the wood and even rent their truck to bring it home, then it's just going to be screwing all the wood together and making a tight fit for the CF pads. It'll end up weighing several hundred pounds and won't slide ever.

What I used to play on
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/hellrazordancing.jpg
The bar is 1.5" pipe in the plumbing section, they cut and threaded the pipe for me based on my specifications, I centered the pipe by the center of the DOWN arrow, screws are a little longer to reach go through the 2x8 and plywood. You need CLAMPS to keep the 2x8 and plywood tight when screwing in the pipe base, this bar mod is >>>> all other bars, I also have a leather grip over the bar.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/dancepad3.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/jeremiahdancepad1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/dancingondadspad1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/dancingwithdad5.jpg
This was some flashy metallic fabric I stapled around the wood (for looks) with some cushiony stuff under it. The fabric got discolored from sweat so I ripped it out and put a cotton based fabric down (one that my wife picked out).
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/flashypads.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/flashypads2.jpg
I have re-done my pads and base since these pictures, my pads now have a start/escape and built in control box, the front 2x6 was replaced with a 2x2 due to the pads being longer, I do not use the metal doubles spacer, I have a full length piece of wood spacing the two pads now, and I routed the wires through the base and through the pads since the wires sticking out was the reason my previous CF pads broke.

Post #48 · Posted at 2008-11-01 01:54:29pm 16.6 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Socks are dirt cheap, and I haven't stumbled across the kung fu shoes. A friend of mine has them though, and they look good. When I have lots of money to spare again, I plan on getting a pair.
I only get blisters if I play too much in a sock that has a hole in it. So long as I play with unholy socks, I don't get blisters or cuts. You'll notice that I lift my feet fairly high, thus the screws aren't a problem unless a stream is too fast for me to do with good technique.

You've probably never heard my complaint about the bar before because my style is fairly unique. Out of all the people I've seen videos of, nobody else plays on their toes in socks. Practically everybody uses their heels for the down arrows, even if they're not wearing shoes. I stick exclusively to hitting with my toes.

Playing doubles in socks isn't a problem, as long as they're broken in enough to give good grip. Takes ~4 hours of play for a pair of socks to absorb enough sweat and dust to give enough grip for playing doubles. Singles is a bit harder in fresh socks, but that just means I have to be a bit more careful on CSFILSM, and R&P, it doesn't keep me from doing them.
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Post #49 · Posted at 2008-11-01 01:59:32pm 16.6 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun
I stick exclusively to hitting with my toes.
Me too, I get a better workout that way, although I don't lift as high as you do I am hitting everything with my toes.

http://www.karatedepot.com/cl-sh-29.html
These shoes used to be $6, I'm glad I ordered 12 pairs, I still have a bunch of brand new pairs. I'm also forced to order from that site since nobody else even comes close to my size 16's. Buying a size smaller may be better to keep them snug, however if I had a choice I would buy a pair with laces.

Post #50 · Posted at 2008-11-01 02:08:00pm 16.6 years ago

Offline Kyzentun
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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Okay, I wrote my post without seeing all the pics. I'm going to go rob your house now.
j/k
That's pretty much what I had envisioned for a frame. Something to keep the pads near each other, but allow them to tilt with the give of the carpet.

Oh, and those aren't the same kung-fu shoes I was thinking of. The pair my friend has fit tighter, go up like a combat boot, and have a split big toe.

Oh yeah, do you have any memory of the materials cost?
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Post #51 · Posted at 2008-11-01 02:21:18pm 16.6 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun
Oh, and those aren't the same kung-fu shoes I was thinking of. The pair my friend has fit tighter, go up like a combat boot, and have a split big toe.

Oh yeah, do you have any memory of the materials cost?
Well with a size 16 I don't have a choice, but at least Bruce Lee wore the same shoes I wear, and Jackie Chan in "Legend of the Drunken Master" wears them as well, they are authentic looking but if I had a choice I would choose something better.

I think the material cost $100, the 3/4" plywood sheets were the biggest cost.

When I built my two new CF style pads the material cost me $100 for everything (other than the control boxes and sheet metal). I had to get my sheet metal from a HVAC place they did precision cuts and it cost me $100 just for the sheet metal. The control boxes I have are two PIU PS2 controllers (PIU controllers are best since it maps the corner buttons to R1 R2 L1 L2 and center as X, and it's easy to solder to and I can play doubles PIU, also works very well for PS2 DDR games although good luck getting two official PIU soft pads) my USB control boxes are Wingman Precision controllers, easy to solder to, very cheap, no lag to the PC however only a few usable buttons. I bought 6 of these in case there's a failure (I can't last a day without playing and since there's a delay on ordering these controllers I keep spares) also if I ever wanted to do PIU through stepmania I would need two controllers for each pad due to the lack of buttons.

I would build new pads and a new base in a heartbeat. The first thing I remembered when playing on the base was that the pad felt solid, it did not rock on the carpet anymore (and my carpet is thinner than yours). The whole thing stays in place due to it's weight and friction, it's really tough to move even if I wanted to adjust it, in fact in two years it hasn't slid at all and I play singles up to 13's and doubles sometimes.

Post #52 · Posted at 2008-11-01 03:09:24pm 16.6 years ago

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Dude, those look awesome. I wish I had any pads at this point though. All of my pads exploded so now I can't play DDR at all Sad

Post #53 · Posted at 2008-11-01 09:19:37pm 16.6 years ago

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Dude, those look awesome. I wish I had any pads at this point though. All of my pads exploded so now I can't play DDR at all Sad
Well just remember if you decide to go all out you'll have something permanant. If I want to watch a movie on this TV the bars are always in the way, anytime anyone comes over it's right there, if you still live with parents they'll probably get upset that it's so big.

I need to buy a laminator and new lexan panels, I may put down one BIG image and cut it into 25 pieces and place it across both pads (to make a giant floor poster on my CF pads). On each pad I have 9 11"x11" panels, and three 11"x4" panels, the center bar is ??". I used some cheap non-heating laminator and it doesn't work well, so in the near future I will re-do all my graphics and buy new lexan panels (they are actually cheaper to order from CF than to try and buy from home depot).

EDIT: Just had a change of heart, I'm going to do the Final Fantasy 4 DS character images on player 1, with some Final Fantasy 4 logo stuff on the top (start, select, control box), and a Final Fantasy 9 character images for Player 2 again with logo stuff on the top, and maybe the Alexander vs. Bahamut for the center arrow since there's onlyl 8 characters. I'll get a good pic whenever I get this done (this will have to wait until I get a laminator and some new lexan panels).

Well here are what I may be using for my new "arrows", tell me what you think:

Arrow Decals

Post #54 · Posted at 2008-11-07 01:08:49pm 16.6 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Hm, those look nice, though it's not something I'd do. I'm more of a functionalist, in that I don't much care how something looks as long as it works. If I ever made my own pads, I'd just have bare metal under the lexan, no decals. After all, only noobs need to have the icons to know which arrow is which. ;)


On another note, is one of the fixes for R2 of ITG Rebirth going to be taking out the "shuffle" in the middle of "Save the Last Dance for Me" expert doubles? Or are those streams meant to be that horribly confusing? Seems like I'm never in the right place or facing the right way, always falling behind and missing steps trying to hit what I can understand. I can do most 8s and 9s that are light on the 16ths (like that one is), but those streams just throw me for a loop. I feel like I'll have to learn to stealth the chart just to pass it.
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Post #55 · Posted at 2008-11-07 01:15:28pm 16.6 years ago

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Quote: Kyzentun

On another note, is one of the fixes for R2 of ITG Rebirth going to be taking out the "shuffle" in the middle of "Save the Last Dance for Me" expert doubles? Or are those streams meant to be that horribly confusing? Seems like I'm never in the right place or facing the right way, always falling behind and missing steps trying to hit what I can understand. I can do most 8s and 9s that are light on the 16ths (like that one is), but those streams just throw me for a loop. I feel like I'll have to learn to stealth the chart just to pass it.
No, whenever you see two of the same arrows in a row (in that one middle section), you're supposed to switch your feet. Like if you hit the first of the two steps with your left foot, use your right foot for the next one, and it should flow perfectly after that. It's a foot switching gimmick. If my local machine was working properly, I'd do a foot video to demonstrate it.
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Post #56 · Posted at 2008-11-07 01:42:49pm 16.6 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
Okay, I'll try to remember that next time I play it.
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Post #57 · Posted at 2008-11-07 10:40:24pm 16.6 years ago

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Yeah, it should work perfectly. It's lots of fun when you can do it Smile
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Post #58 · Posted at 2008-11-07 10:46:51pm 16.6 years ago

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I'll stay no bar though, because a frequent problem for me at the arcade is bumping the bar with my heels while playing doubles. Hurts a bit when you're playing in socks.
I've never heard anyone complain of that, how odd. ALSO instead of socks, get some cotton soled kung fu shoes, they will last much longer than socks and are still very light and just as slippery as socks (you'll see I use them all the time unless I'm doing doubles where I need grip). Also the kung fu shoes will protect your feet more than just socks (I used to get crazy blisters and cuts with just socks now I only play in kung fu shoes and they are CHEAP).

Base = 2 x 3/4" plywood (one measured to be the size of the two CF pads + attachment bar, use your tape measure) the second sheet will be longer to be the size of both pads + (the size of the frame, mine is made of 2x6's in the front and sides, and a 2x8 in the rear, however it's a little too big, I suggest you do 2x4's all around but do keep the 2x8 in the rear, you may want to add a bar someday, and the extra room will be good to just stand on, plus on my pads the extra wood for the base mod will prevent falling off the pad). Putting both pieces of plywood layered makes the CF stand up just above the wood. You can get Home Depot to make all the cuts of the wood and even rent their truck to bring it home, then it's just going to be screwing all the wood together and making a tight fit for the CF pads. It'll end up weighing several hundred pounds and won't slide ever.

What I used to play on
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/hellrazordancing.jpg
The bar is 1.5" pipe in the plumbing section, they cut and threaded the pipe for me based on my specifications, I centered the pipe by the center of the DOWN arrow, screws are a little longer to reach go through the 2x8 and plywood. You need CLAMPS to keep the 2x8 and plywood tight when screwing in the pipe base, this bar mod is >>>> all other bars, I also have a leather grip over the bar.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/dancepad3.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/jeremiahdancepad1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/dancingondadspad1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/dancingwithdad5.jpg
This was some flashy metallic fabric I stapled around the wood (for looks) with some cushiony stuff under it. The fabric got discolored from sweat so I ripped it out and put a cotton based fabric down (one that my wife picked out).
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/flashypads.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/HellRazoR35/flashypads2.jpg
I have re-done my pads and base since these pictures, my pads now have a start/escape and built in control box, the front 2x6 was replaced with a 2x2 due to the pads being longer, I do not use the metal doubles spacer, I have a full length piece of wood spacing the two pads now, and I routed the wires through the base and through the pads since the wires sticking out was the reason my previous CF pads broke.

What a nice home hellrazorHappy
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Post #59 · Posted at 2008-11-08 12:08:38am 16.6 years ago

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Post #60 · Posted at 2008-12-06 03:39:41pm 16.5 years ago

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"I'm honestly pissed off."
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Quote: Kyzentun
I stick exclusively to hitting with my toes.
Me too, I get a better workout that way, although I don't lift as high as you do I am hitting everything with my toes.

http://www.karatedepot.com/cl-sh-29.html
These shoes used to be $6, I'm glad I ordered 12 pairs, I still have a bunch of brand new pairs. I'm also forced to order from that site since nobody else even comes close to my size 16's. Buying a size smaller may be better to keep them snug, however if I had a choice I would buy a pair with laces.
I hope they changed their materials, or you never played doubles no bar in them, or some sort of good explanation. Because I got 2 pairs today, and just tried playing in them. They were worse than a fresh pair of socks. So slick, I could barely do El Ritmo Tropical and La Copa De La Vida. I would have failed anything heavy on turns, and nearly fell on R&P singles.
So, do they just pick up dirt like socks, and gain traction over time, or what? I'm afraid to do 9s in these, afraid I might mess up my knee again.
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