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Post #5941 · Posted at 2017-12-28 06:41:26pm 7.5 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
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Every boss song has been conquered.

Endymion CDP and Ace for Aces Heavy would like a word with you.
To be fair, they too would be conquered, if they can be played normally.

Just one example of "unfair".
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
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Post #5942 · Posted at 2017-12-28 06:51:56pm 7.5 years ago

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"Crybabies unite~ ♡"
Essentially, yes. We apparently need all these restrictions just so players grind them out over and over.
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Post #5943 · Posted at 2017-12-28 07:10:17pm 7.5 years ago

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Post #5944 · Posted at 2017-12-28 07:49:24pm 7.5 years ago

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I think if we see a 20 or another 19 even, it will have some gimmicks but won't be dominated by them. Valkyrie dimension, endymion, paranoia revolution, and to some extent egoism all have moderate gimmicks that fit with the song (and before anyone rails on VDO, the problem is the chart, not the gimmicks ) The only 19 with crazy gimmicks is over the period, and hopefully we never get something like that again

Post #5945 · Posted at 2017-12-28 08:26:03pm 7.5 years ago

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I completely forgot about its Doubles Challenge x.x I act like Doubles don't exist which is really bad of me.

And yes, I stand corrected on Ace for Aces ESP. Especially since I'm one of those people that count all Encore Extra Stage songs as boss songs.

Seeing the full Ace for Aces ESP as an EES will take quite a bit of time, unfortunately.

Post #5946 · Posted at 2017-12-29 03:32:07am 7.5 years ago

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Quote: Mr.Music
I think if we see a 20 or another 19 even, it will have some gimmicks but won't be dominated by them. Valkyrie dimension, endymion, paranoia revolution, and to some extent egoism all have moderate gimmicks that fit with the song (and before anyone rails on VDO, the problem is the chart, not the gimmicks ) The only 19 with crazy gimmicks is over the period, and hopefully we never get something like that again

I can rail on VDO bc even if the 480BPM part makes sense to the music it still makes for an ass reading time for the rest of the chart.

And you're far more faithful in the quality of a future 20 than I am.

Post #5947 · Posted at 2017-12-29 03:34:53am 7.5 years ago

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I think if we see a 20 or another 19 even, it will have some gimmicks but won't be dominated by them. Valkyrie dimension, endymion, paranoia revolution, and to some extent egoism all have moderate gimmicks that fit with the song (and before anyone rails on VDO, the problem is the chart, not the gimmicks ) The only 19 with crazy gimmicks is over the period, and hopefully we never get something like that again

I can rail on VDO bc even if the 480BPM part makes sense to the music it still makes for an ass reading time for the rest of the chart.

And you're far more faithful in the quality of a future 20 than I am.

Yeah, that's because of the chart not the gimmicks though. I have no faith in the quality of a future 20, they'll probably just mash a much crap into it as they can and call it a 20.

Post #5948 · Posted at 2017-12-29 03:38:03am 7.5 years ago

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I mean I think I can blame the gimmick when the chart would be perfectly readable if you removed the gimmick by cutting that section's BPM in half.

Let's pray you're right about the lack of gimmicks in a future 20.

Post #5949 · Posted at 2017-12-29 04:41:26am 7.5 years ago

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"Crybabies unite~ ♡"
Here are just a couple of examples of what I believe a future 20 would look like, if it were to exist at all. Even WITH gimmicks, I feel like a chart maker would have to add a bunch of cheap garbage to even reasonably surpass the 19s in terms of difficulty.


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Post #5950 · Posted at 2017-12-29 05:25:19am 7.5 years ago

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Here are just a couple of examples of what I believe a future 20 would look like, if it were to exist at all. Even WITH gimmicks, I feel like a chart maker would have to add a bunch of cheap garbage to even reasonably surpass the 19s in terms of difficulty.



question

you are an ITG player?
What the hell does U1 smoke to come up with EGOISM 440?

Post #5951 · Posted at 2017-12-29 05:53:21am 7.5 years ago

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"Crybabies unite~ ♡"
I have played ITG, if that's what you're asking. But do I know people in the ITG community? No.
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Post #5952 · Posted at 2017-12-29 06:11:39am 7.5 years ago

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I have played ITG, if that's what you're asking. But do I know people in the ITG community? No.

hmm
What the hell does U1 smoke to come up with EGOISM 440?

Post #5953 · Posted at 2017-12-29 12:36:29pm 7.5 years ago

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"five minute white boy challenge"
why do you ask that all the time
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #5954 · Posted at 2017-12-29 01:34:55pm 7.5 years ago

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Well Neutrino is better stepped than Quickening, and i believe the song which will has Challenge 20 : will be sense. Valkyrie Dimension has good Challenge except in part 0:36 - 0:40 in my opinion.


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Post #5955 · Posted at 2017-12-29 02:40:21pm 7.5 years ago

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"Crybabies unite~ ♡"

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Really? I find the ending to be the truly obnoxious part of that chart. There's a random jump stuck in the middle of Afronova runs (sometimes referred to as scoobies). I'm still not sure if it was intentional or simply an error that never got fixed (if they got rid of that down arrow on the jump, the ending at least makes sense pattern-wise). Even without it, it's clear that this chart was made purely to be harder than anything else, and not because the song called for such a stepchart. 0:36 would be sensible if it could be read comfortably. Valkyrie dimension Challenge is not the worst chart in DDR, but it is still noticeably flawed. The D-Challenge is actually more respectable.
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Post #5956 · Posted at 2017-12-29 06:52:16pm 7.5 years ago

Offline Mr.Music
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I have a question for anyone that's played a lot of DDR A: What does the red clear lamp mean? Originally I thought it meant that you got one miss, but it seems that that just gives you a yellow clear lamp.

Post #5957 · Posted at 2017-12-29 06:53:08pm 7.5 years ago

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"Crybabies unite~ ♡"
A red clear lamp means you cleared a chart on LIFE4 but did not full combo it yet.
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Post #5958 · Posted at 2017-12-29 06:53:09pm 7.5 years ago

Offline Quickman
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"five minute white boy challenge"
I think it means a LIFE4 clear.
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Approximately nobody asked for this song to be included. Least popular decision by the Japanese since Nintendo released the Wii U.
https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/DWN012Quick_Man.png

Post #5959 · Posted at 2017-12-29 06:56:18pm 7.5 years ago

Offline Mr.Music
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Huh, that's interesting. It makes sense since I almost always play on LIFE4 except on 15+ charts. It's strange that there isn't a slightly different clear lamp shade for FC/PFC with LIFE4 on, but I guess it doesn't really matter.

Post #5960 · Posted at 2017-12-29 06:59:29pm 7.5 years ago

Offline NewbStepper
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"Crybabies unite~ ♡"
Basically, the logic is that if you can FC a chart, you can clear it on any dance gauge.
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